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Shaughnessy: The Red Sox should give Jeter $60 million

Nov 30, 2010, 8:31 AM EDT

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Last week a few people had some fun on Twitter suggesting that the Red Sox — in the interests of promoting chaos — should make Jeter an offer. Pete Abraham mentioned it. I did. Some others too.  It was mildly chuckle-worthy during a slow week. Today, however, Dan Shaugnessy shows us that not every little clever zinger on Twitter is worthy of its own column:

There is simply no downside to making Jeter a massive offer. In the worst-case scenario he calls your bluff and you get the Yankees captain. I don’t care if Jeter is way past his prime or if the Sox would have to wildly overpay a player of his diminished skills.

I say offer him the world. Forget about Jayson Werth. Blow Jeter away with dollars and years. At worst this would just mean the Sox would jack up the final price the Yankees must pay. It could be sort of like Mark Teixeira-in-reverse. And if Jeter actually signed with Boston, the damage to the Yankees’ psyche would be inestimable.

Shaughnessy says the Sox should offer Jeter three years at $20 million per.  And I think he’s quite serious. $60 million to “damage the Yankees’ psyche.”  No discussion whatsoever of what having Derek Jeter as the starting shortstop at that salary would mean to, you know, the competitive position of the Red Sox for the next three years. No apparent understanding that, unlike Shaughnessy himself, the people who run the Red Sox these days don’t think of the world as an epic Yankees-Red Sox battle in which sense and reason is discarded. No actual baseball analysis at all.  It’s pure red meat for the “screw the Yankees” crowd.

Which is fine on some level because I know this is sports, and sports shouldn’t always be sober and serious.  But this is the sort of thing that you have to keep in mind when Shaughnessy and others who peddle this stuff turn around and demand that they themselves be taken seriously.

  1. Jonny 5 - Nov 30, 2010 at 8:43 AM

    Wow! 60 million to damage the psyche of the Yanks? You know what would be more logical? Put a bounty on each and every players head on the Yankees. 1 million a piece. It would still be more economical than his idea, and there is no way in Hell Bahhhstan is getting beat by the Yankees Minor leaguers. Sure my idea is disgusting and wrong, and i’d never promote the idea. But that would at least be effective. Dan’s Idea is terrible, and I hope it was nothing but a failed attempt at humor. Cause it’s just dumb… Imagine the writing material if it did happen though……..

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:12 AM

      Nah, let’s run with this. According to Cots, the Red Sox payroll obligations with arb raises puts them around $134M. Add Jeter at $20M, shift him to 3rd, so now we’re at $154M. Re-sign Varitek since you need someone to back up Salty, so that puts you around $155-157M. Now, do you sign either Crawford or Werth? That adds another $15-$20M per year. Now the Sox are around $170-175M in total contracts, and hello luxury tax!

      Brilliant idea CHB!

  2. Jack Marshall - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:03 AM

    It’s good that Shaughnessy writes these things every now and then, just to remind readers just how deranged he really is.

    • hep3 - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:20 AM

      BINGO!

      The majority of Boston and New York writers are all nuts. I guess it is my west coat bias.

      • Ari Collins - Nov 30, 2010 at 10:02 AM

        I wouldn’t say the majority. There are quite a few Marc Normandins and Peter Abrahams in Boston. But yeah, there are plenty of Shaughnessys too.

      • Kevin S. - Nov 30, 2010 at 10:04 AM

        Actually, there’s only one Marc Normandin in Boston. I’m sure it’s possible that there are a few Peter Abrahams, but I only know of one who covers baseball there.

        Carry on.

  3. dodger88 - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:08 AM

    The Red Sox budget could absorb $20 million per season so that really isn’t the issue. They or any other team that can actually afford Jeter (very few) should only go after Jeter if they fill he would an upgrade over what they have. Would Jeter be an upgrade over Scutaro? Renteria? Even if the answer is yes, it is likley marginal at best. Plus, if you buy into Jeter’s value being tied to the fact he has worn Yankee pinstripes for the better part of two decades, his value doesn’t simply translate into the uniform of another team.

    I don’t buy into the damaged psyche theory; if/when Jeter moves on so will the Yankees. Just because they would prefer to not see Jeter wear the uniform of the Red Sox or Giants or whomever, doesn’t mean it would cripple them in any way. They would more than survive.

  4. Walk - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:23 AM

    Seems like a poke at the yankees to me is all. He is not serious about taking on 60 mill in salary. If boston did that they would free ny to go get a better ss at 5-8 million a year and ny would hen be free to spend the balance on imrpoving an aging roster. It is in bostons and any al east teams best interest to drive up jeters price but not to actually take on his salary. My suggeston for opposing teams is to make him an very high one year offer possibly with a position change just to add incentive for him to turn it down. Hopefully that would drive his price up and further hinder any attempts by ny to rebuild their aging roster. At the very worst he calls your bluff and you pick up a guy for one year who is about to get his milestone hit 3000. Again the goal would be to prevent ny from having the roster flexibility to buy or trade for any player they want and to keep their aging roster run down and tired heading into the playoffs. Tulos signing earlier today may have some effect on jeters final price as well.

  5. pisano - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:26 AM

    The Red Sox have made some signings that will make you scratch your head, but they don’t make a habit of throwing money away. They don’t need Jeter, especially at his outrageous contract demands. The Red Sox and Yankees seem to always to be after the same players, but in this case not a SS thats 37 yrs. old and in rapid decline.Jeter is trying to get as much as he can from the Yankees, but it seems it might back fire on him.

  6. BC - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:27 AM

    If they offered 3 years, $60 million I think that would be hilarious. I’m in favor of chaos.
    PS. For those of you who are chaos fans, James Gleick has started a blog: http://around.com

  7. Kevin S. - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:38 AM

    Dear lord, I hope and pray Theo and company offer Jeter $60 million. Being an anchor around Boston’s neck would be one final act of loyalty from Jeter to the organization that made him.

    Yeah, not worried about any psyche damage at all.

    • Jonny 5 - Nov 30, 2010 at 10:33 AM

      Good point Kevin. He could in mole like fashion become even more popular in NYC as he destroys the Sox from within…… Pure evil.

  8. Joe - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:54 AM

    CHB is a freaking idiot. The Sox have TWO shortstops who are currently better players than Derek Jeter.

  9. downtowndanny - Nov 30, 2010 at 9:56 AM

    hey shaughnessy, the crack must have been flowing when you wrote this. the wife must have looked like Katy Perry too, $60 mil is ridiculous! Jeter is closer to 40 than 30 so you sound insane. dude you need to detox, find yourself a sponsor asap

    • Ari Collins - Nov 30, 2010 at 10:16 AM

      Stupid is his anti-drug.

  10. proudlycanadian - Nov 30, 2010 at 10:22 AM

    A great idea. It would hurt both teams.

  11. thinman61 - Nov 30, 2010 at 10:36 AM

    Someone should lock Shaughnessy and Lupica in a room together, throw away the key, and let them duke it out. The Rivalry would be better off for not having to read another word that either of them wrote. Bonus points if we can throw Mazz in too.

    • BC - Nov 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM

      I say lock them in a closet with a rabid, starved leopard.

  12. chipmaker023 - Nov 30, 2010 at 11:27 AM

    Giving us yet one more reason why Shaughnessy is a zero-accountability writer (probably tenured, fortunately for him) and not a real working baseball executive with any team in operation.

  13. scrunchify - Nov 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM

    craig calcaterra has referred to jeter as a ” poor defender ” which is conclusive proof that he either doesn’t watch
    the games or , if he does, has little understanding of what he sees. if he really understood the nature of the game he would realize that teams with ” poor defenders “at shortstop do not flirt with 100 wins each season.
    anyway, shaughnessy’s comments are easier to deride than support but his suggestion is an example of creative thinking
    and deserves more respect than the comments above give it.
    everyone seems to be jumping on the ” jeter was overrated ” bandwagon but he is way underrated right now.

    • Panda Claus - Nov 30, 2010 at 12:39 PM

      You are either one of the most devout, loyal and currently hurt Yankees fan I’ve ever come across, or this was your liquid lunch talking. “[B]ut he is way underrated right now”? I mean on offense, but It’s hard to take that last line seriously.

      Anyone commanding anywhere from $15-25M per season, depending on which side you listen to, is not underrated by any stretch of the imagination.

    • tomemos - Nov 30, 2010 at 12:44 PM

      Scrunchify, it’s time to figure out what is wrong with your browser that it’s putting so many weird paragraph breaks in there. Or is that you doing that?

  14. Charles Gates - Nov 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM

    Huh?

  15. frankvzappa - Nov 30, 2010 at 3:12 PM

    shaughnessy is right, stick it to those bastards!

  16. Rosenthals Speling Instrukter - Nov 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM

    That is some sweet Blond Dan Marino hair.

  17. uyf1950 - Nov 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM

    I’m all for the Red Sox taking on Jeters contract 3 years $20M per. Then the Yankees can move ARod over to short for 2 or 3 years and turn around and sign Beltre for $15 for 4 years. See who gets more value for their dollars. Done deal, do it.

  18. billybeaneismyhero - Nov 30, 2010 at 8:01 PM

    Curly Haired Boyfriend has totally gone off his rocker. It’s time to send him to the old baseball writers retirement home. I imagine he’ll fit in nicely as Murray Chass’s underboss…

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