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Pat Gillick makes the Hall of Fame; George Steinbrenner, Marvin Miller denied!

Dec 6, 2010, 10:13 AM EDT

Pat Gillick

The Veteran’s Committee has spoken and Pat Gillick is the only person who was elected to the Hall of Fame.

In addition to holding many other jobs in baseball, Pat Gillick built the Blue Jays from an expansion team into a World Series champ and did an excellent job in both Seattle — building the team that won 116 games in 2001 — and Philly, where he built the team that won the 2008 World Series and continues to dominate today.

But taking nothing away from Gillick, this vote is more notable for who was left off: George Steinbrenner and Marvin Miller. Each of whom belong in the Hall of Fame.

Yes, I realize that Steinbrenner was a troubling figure. He had his faults — some criminal — and he was crazy-divisive. But he was also a truly a transformative figure in baseball history. And the Hall of Fame is — or at least should be — about history. And impact. And, ultimately, excellence. Steinbrenner fits that bill.

What more can be said about Marvin Miller?  He fell one vote short, it is being reported.  He should have been in years ago.  Baseball today cannot be understood without understanding Marvin Miller’s contributions and passing him over yet again is a travesty.

  1. bloodysock - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:15 AM

    I guess Jayson Werth didn’t have a vote or Miller would be in.

  2. BC - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:16 AM

    Gillick deserves getting in, but Miller and Steinbrenner not getting in is a disgrace. They should just disband the Veteran’s Committee. They’re useless.

    • kgsimms - Dec 6, 2010 at 11:24 AM

      Very well said!!!! Totally agree!!!!

      • adenzeno - Dec 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM


    • Rosenthals Speling Instrukter - Dec 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM

      If George was not banned for the three years Jeter, Posada and Rivera would have been traded for a .265 hitting Third baseman.

      J/K, sorta.

    • Jonny 5 - Dec 6, 2010 at 12:36 PM

      Myself, I think executives should be treated much like broadcasters are in regards to the HOF. As of now in the HOF, executives outweigh every single position on the field including manager, besides pitcher. Something just doesn’t sit right with me when looking at it that way.

    • Old Gator - Dec 6, 2010 at 12:47 PM

      Worse than useless. One smile from Buck O’Neil was worth more than the collected life’s work of the whole scummy lot of them.

    • joecsports - Dec 6, 2010 at 3:18 PM

      Miller and Gillick deserved to get in and I am happy for Pat being voted in. George is like the anti-Wellington Mara. Instead of creating a compromise that allowed all teams to compete financially and create balanced competition, he helped bully through a system that favors big market teams like his Yankees. His greatest contribution to the team was being banned in the early 90’s, thus paving the way for astute baseball people like Gene Michael, Bob Watson and Buck Showalter to build a dynasty. Being banned from baseball twice should automatically ban you from the HOF.

    • rick1922 - Dec 7, 2010 at 10:09 AM

      Miller and Steinbrenner should have gone in long before Gillick also I would vote for Bobby Cox before Gillick Ed Wade had most the players in place before he got to PHILLY . The way down on my list.

  3. dasher521 - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM

    Congratulations, Pat! Well done! Well deserved!

  4. basedrum777 - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM

    Pat is definitely a HOF’er.

    As a Yankees fan I would say I could go either way on George. He definitely changed the game and made his mark, but his trading away of prospects is what caused the 1980’s for the Yankees…..

  5. sdelmonte - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:21 AM

    I really don’t get how the Veterans Committee works.

    Then again, I also don’t really go for electing anyone but players these days.

  6. proudlycanadian - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:30 AM

    Congratulation to Gillick. He put the Jays on the baseball map.

  7. Panda Claus - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:32 AM

    Don’t forget the last winning teams in Baltimore also have his fingerprints all over them. In summary, he’s won everywhere he’s been.

  8. paperlions - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    There are already too many owners in the HOF. Steinbrenner was bad at running a baseball team, but the NY market allowed them to win despite George’s input. If the more the owner is involved, the worse his team does….I have a hard time understanding how Steinbrenner should be considered for the HOF. Why not induct the marketing people that worked for the Yankees or the Yankee fans as a group? They are more deserving that a rich blowhard whose team won despite him.

  9. jfk69 - Dec 6, 2010 at 10:43 AM

    Miller and Steinbrenner denied???
    These two are most responsible for modern day baseball as it is negotiated today. This is a disgrace.
    The Yankees were a joke when George took them over and restored the most storied franchise in baseball. The rest is history.
    Marvin Miller can be compared to Lincoln….He helped free the slaves. Who is on that committee? BETTY WHITE!

    • kgsimms - Dec 6, 2010 at 11:26 AM

      LOL! Agree!!!!!! Makes no sense!!!!!

    • Utley's Hair - Dec 6, 2010 at 12:26 PM

      That comment is kinda along the same lines as something Bud Light, History professor, would say—with the exception of the tiny bit of veracity it contains.

  10. Utley's Hair - Dec 6, 2010 at 11:22 AM

    Has Jim Palmer been reached for comment?

  11. mpmorrow - Dec 6, 2010 at 11:49 AM

    George spent too much money to deserve to be in the HOF. If he built teams of equal payrolls to the rest of the league, congratulations are due. He tried to buy teams that often didn’t make the playoffs with a team that currently has a payroll of $70 million more than the next team…. that’s obscene and offensive!!! He did whatever he wanted to with his money but you can’t buy your way into a HOF in any sport.

    • Old Gator - Dec 6, 2010 at 12:46 PM

      Sure you can. You just have to bribe the fools who actually vote.

  12. talis4 - Dec 6, 2010 at 1:51 PM

    george steinbrenner shouldn’t even make it to purgatory. Hopefully, he’s roasting as we speak. The guy was a criminal that was banned from baseball. Ask Dave Winfield if he should get in.

    The yankees always built their dynasties in his absence, and they usually collapsed once he took control. Naturally, george was always there to take credit.

    However, any objective analysis reveals that he was poison for the team.
    First dynasty (70’s): team built before he got there (with the exception of Reggie Jackson). Because he succeeded with Reggie, he went on to buy Gullett, Griffey, Winfield, et al. The team was then stuck in 20 years of mediocrity. When the phony was banned from baseball, the yankees built a dynasty in the nineties. The baseball people re-built the minors. Bumbling george returns to take credit for the World Series wins. He then starts making the “george knows baseball” moves. Brought in Giambi and the rest. RESULT: No World Series wins (or appearances) until he becomes too senile to interfere.


  13. schlom - Dec 6, 2010 at 4:07 PM

    I’m curious on exactly what basis people think that Miller should be in the HOF. What exactly did he do for the game of baseball, separating that from what he did for the players? I just don’t think he had any particular impact on the actual game of baseball. Of course that goes for Steinbrenner too as his impact on the game was strictly financial as well (and probably any owner of the Yankees during the last 30 years would have spent hugely as well).

  14. jfk69 - Dec 6, 2010 at 4:39 PM

    For all you Steinbrenner haters… I give you the one fingered salute.
    Took a eleven million dollar investment in a team that nobody would even touch in a part of the city that people were terrified to go to, in a city that at time the Government didn’t even want to lend to and built it into a TWO BILLION dollar mega franchise.
    Yes he took the credit and he paid all the bills.
    Back in seventy’s New York was on the balls of its ass. George came in…Brash, arrogant and like a TRUE NEW YORKER…albeit from Cleveland Ohio.a little bit crazy. He spent and never stopped spending. He even apologized when we lost. Unlike some of todays owners who look to spend as little as possible for fear of losing a buck. Their bank account first ..The team and its fans…a distant second.

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