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Morosi: Zack Greinke has requested a trade

Dec 17, 2010, 8:05 PM EDT

Zack Greinke

And you thought the Hot Stove was beginning to cool down? Not yet. Not by a longshot.

According to Jon Paul Morosi of, Zack Greinke didn’t just fire his agent, as we learned earlier today, he has also requested to be traded.

OK, maybe that’s being too tame. One high-ranking executive from another team tells Morosi that Greinke “really wants out of K.C.,” while separate major league sources have confirmed that he has “unequivocally asked” the Royals to be traded.

Morosi writes that the Royals have discussed trade possibilities with numerous suitors, but Greinke is a unique case because of his no-trade clause that allows him to block trades to 15 teams. Of course, no-trade clauses have become increasingly meaningless and negotiable, so his hiring of Casey Close can’t be seen as a simple coincidence.

Stay tuned.

  1. jh0088 - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:13 PM

    Curtis Granderson, Joba, Montero and a prospect for Zeinke if he agrees to a five year extention.


    • proudlycanadian - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:25 PM

      KC needs a quality middle infielder in any trade. Cano for Greinke might work, but your proposal would not. Joba? Really? KC would want players with upside potential and Joba is yesterday’s man.

      • josev9908 - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:44 PM

        The Yankees will not be trading Robbie Cano for no one. He is their best player and could not possibly come out on top in any trade involving him.

    • baseballisboring - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:39 PM

      lol, always love reading the stupid yankee trade proposals. what the hell would KC want with curtis granderson? or joba for that matter? it’s gonna take a major haul to get greinke, more than just a couple of prospects, an aging center fielder making like $10 million (right? somewhere in that range? i don’t feel like checking) and a reliever with shoulder problems.

      • jh0088 - Dec 18, 2010 at 12:07 AM

        hahaha. i was screwing around. But this is fun to look at all the people reacting though.

      • baseballisboring - Dec 18, 2010 at 4:07 PM

        Haha…touche. Now I understand the “Go.” at the end. Sounds exactly like something that someone would actually post, though…

  2. metalhead65 - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:22 PM

    how about the reds giving the guy they traded josh hamilton for and a couple of prospects? sounds like a good deal to this reds fan!

  3. sabosgoggles - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:25 PM

    Can’t you just imagine Amaro and co. looking at each other and saying, “Let’s just do it. Let’s just go out and blow everybody’s freaking minds…”

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:27 PM

      I doubt that KC wants Blanton. Does Philadelphia have enough decent prospects left in order to pull off a trade?

      • christianduffy - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM

        No. Nor do they have the financial stability. They have almost $170 invested in 19 players. There window is imposing, but short.

      • GSheffield - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:59 PM

        Their* my bad.

      • Jonny 5 - Dec 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM

        Actually the Phillies have a crazy talented Farm still. They have a few very valuable guys in AA and AAA still, one being on first base, and looks to be a very powerful 1st baseman or DH. But where the Phillies are strongest is their single A. One scout was quoted “The phillies have the most talented A club in baseball, hands down. They have the ability to make a Braves like run for a good decade.” I don’t think the have the payroll flexibility to bring on Greinkes’ salary though. Then again I figured Lees’ was out of the question as well.

    • wonkypenguin - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:40 PM

      Oh my god. That would be unbelievable. And yet, subtly completely awesome and I’m not a Phillies fan by any stretch.

  4. wonkypenguin - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:42 PM

    Can the Twins create a package around Justin Morneau and some other prospects? Get to work, Bill.

    • professorperry - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM

      Morneau is not a prospect. KC needs elite guys, mostly up the middle, who will be ready to contribute in about 3 years.

      • wonkypenguin - Dec 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM

        I know he’s not a prospect – just thought he might be a nice piece to tempt them. :-)

  5. anythingbutyanks - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:48 PM

    Well I do think that would put an almighty fast end to a certain conversation about “greatest pitching lineups ever” that everyone was wanting to have earlier this week.

  6. jfk69 - Dec 17, 2010 at 8:56 PM

    Now you know why the Yankees got Martin and named him the starting catcher before spring training.
    and the KC trade forget about Cano and any player the Yankees are paying anything above 5 million for or them paying part of it. That is a pipe dream by KC FANS

    • professorperry - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:16 PM

      They got Martin because Montero can’t handle catching effectively.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:21 PM

      My suggestion of Cano was a response to a very unrealistic pipe dream by a Yankee fan. The Yankees do not have the players in their farm system who would be a good fit for KC. Texas probably does. Toronto does, but are unlikely to trade the package players that KC is said to want.

      • jfk69 - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:14 PM

        Any player in any farm system is better than signing Franceour for 2.5 million. Of course i hear the clubhouse attendent in KC runs a good book and doesn’t charge 50k for personal services..

  7. ultimatecardinalwarrior - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:22 PM

    Pujols for Greinke and Francoeur. Get it done, Mozeliak!

    • paperlions - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:59 PM

      Franceour? Really?

      As a Cardinal fan, I am ashamed.

    • atxwings13 - Dec 17, 2010 at 10:11 PM

      Really? Call yourself a Cards Fan??? U wanna give up Pujols for a wash up (Francoeur) and Grienke? What are you smoking???

      • ultimatecardinalwarrior - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:11 PM

        Guys: kidding.

  8. uyf1950 - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:52 PM

    I just do not see the Yankees making a play for Greinke at this point. Giving up 4 or 5 players for a pitcher who has not proven he wants to play in NY or to be honest proven he can pitch in the pressure cooker known as New York and Yankee Stadium. Pitching 1 game a season as a visiting teams pitcher during a 3 game home stand can not prepare someone for the scrutiny of the NY Media and NY Fans. I’ll say this one more time. Greinke has had one very good season out of the 6 years he has pitched, the other 5 have been basically average. Greinke fans have been quick to point out his health issues in the past or the fact he basically pitches for a terrible team. All of that is true but it doesn’t change the facts that whatever team gives up the players KC is looking for in a trade is taking a huge leap of faith that Greinke’s 1 good year is the norm and the 5 average years are not. I just don’t see the Yankees taking that “leap of faith”. Just my opinion.

    • mastacliff - Dec 17, 2010 at 9:59 PM

      Agree with your point. Also, i think the one thing Royal fans are dismissing is that you now have a player who is “demanding to leave your team”. You will not get fair value for him, nor will you get what you think you deserve. Instead, you will get what each of te competing teams decides to offer most. In the end you will still be the Royals and some big market team will have stolen your talent. Learn to deal with it, or pay your players. Simple as that. KC is by no means a “small market”, your ownership just chooses to live as such and therefore you will always swim at the bottom of the pool.

    • bigharold - Dec 18, 2010 at 2:25 AM

      “I just do not see the Yankees making a play for Greinke at this point., ..Just my opinion.”

      Fortunately your opinion does’t count.

      Ignoring your dime store psychology for the moment, there is absolutely no reason to think that the Yankees, if so disposed, wouldn’t be well aware Greinke’s ability to handle New York. Why would you think that they would fail to do that due diligence?

      While it’s merely my opinion I think if the Yankees could,they certainly would make that trade, assuming that the players requested in return were of equal value. And, if it ever got that far I’m certain that Greinke’s ability to cope would be a settled issue for the Yankee FO.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:48 AM

        Ignoring your obvious bias, what makes you think they haven’t done their “due diligence” and that’s why there have been no offers from the Yankees for Greinke. Several pitchers with fewer issues then Greinke has/had have been unable to cope with the scrutiny/pressure and expectations of the NY media and fans. Does Randy Johnson ring a bell for you and others.

    • rick1922 - Dec 18, 2010 at 9:01 PM

      I agree 100%.

  9. Ari Collins - Dec 17, 2010 at 10:08 PM

    Despite the lowball offers Yankee fans dream on, the Yankees DO have the prospects to make it happen. Now, their position prospects don’t fit the Royals’ needs, but they have pitching prospects coming out the wazoo. Montero and a couple of their B+ level pitchers might do it. Depending on what other kinds of offers are out there, of course.

  10. bchristianson - Dec 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM

    As a Brewers fan, I would love the addition of Zach Grienke. Even though, Grienke has a ‘no trade’ clause blocking him for being traded to the Brewers, I can still see it happen for the right price. If the Brewers and Royals were to do a trade, I could see Gamel and Jeffress for Grienke, or even Escobar and Jeffress for Grienke. I think both trade possibilites are a little to rich for my taste since that would leave the Brewers in field depleted, but I could also see the possibility of Casey McGehee being involved along with Jeffress and Rogers. That I would not be opposed to doing, but I feel that the Royals would want to go younger with either Gamel or Escobar. If the Brewers want to get Grienke it would have to involve trading either Gamel or Escobar.

    • mastacliff - Dec 17, 2010 at 11:38 PM

      What in god’s name woud make Grienke agree to a trade with the Brewers? There is a “no trade” clause for a reason and the Brewers have as bleak a future as any team in the majors since you’re currently shopping your only great player in Fielder. C’monnnnnnnn enough of this hometown BS. This is a big team market and unless you want to be one, you have to act like one. Call your local owner or congressman for further details.

      • Ari Collins - Dec 18, 2010 at 12:01 AM

        Umm. The Brewers are actually not that bad. They’re looking to trade Fielder because he’s a Boras client and they might as well get something for one year if he’s not going to re-sign with them. He’s not their only great player. He’s not even their best player; that would be Braun or Weeks. The Brewers are clearly not selling off the team. In fact, they just traded a prospect for Shaun Marcum.

        And what the heck are you talking about? If you don’t act like a “big team market,” you’ll… be one? Congressman what?

        No matter what, though, bechristiansons’ trade proposals aren’t getting it done.

      • mtner77 - Dec 18, 2010 at 12:42 AM

        “C’monnnnnnnn enough of this hometown BS”

        Here, here. Including all the “hometown” Yankee fans, where they think they can get someone else’ ace for next to nothing.

        I posted a few days ago, if the Yankees’ want someone elses’ ace, it will probably cost them a triple King’s Ransom at this point. You don’t think that other MLB GM’s KNOW that the Yankees’ need starting pitching? When you are desperate to buy something, do you think that it will be cheap?

        If the Yankees’ want an Ace, then go get one. But it ain’t going to be cheap. Try Cano as a starting point.

      • Ari Collins - Dec 18, 2010 at 1:38 AM

        They have to give up a King’s ransom, but it will be a king’s ransom in prospects, not current MVP candidates like Cano. That would be a lateral move, at best.

        Agree with what you’re saying in general, though. Usually with a trade demand the trading team’s leverage goes down, but Greinke is signed so reasonably that tons of teams are still going to be in the bidding, so they’re still going to be able to pick the offer they like best. The Yankees will either have to bid high or be left with Ivan Nova in the rotation. They probably won’t panic and give away the whole farm, and they probably shouldn’t, but you never know.

      • proudlycanadian - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:29 AM

        The problem with trading Lawrie for Marcum is that Lawrie is precisely the type of prospect desired by KC and Toronto now has him.

      • handsfour - Dec 19, 2010 at 3:45 PM

        Thanks mastacliff, you sure set us straight.

  11. jdonnel3 - Dec 18, 2010 at 12:53 AM

    Yankee fans are Cano should not be traded for anybody, period.. unless its king felix.. Greinke would never be as good in a big market,, period.. Yankee fans should be scared to trade away there future at catcher because Montero is a beast.. any true Yankme fan wouldnt do it.. Posada is nothing more than a DH once again no way Greinke would make it in NY..

    • mtner77 - Dec 18, 2010 at 1:43 AM

      “unless its king felix..”

      The Yankees’ are at the TOP of Felix’s no trade list for a reason.

      Also, the Mariner’s could have had Montero for simply giving up a half year of Cliff Lee. They said No. (And chose Justin Smoak instead. It may be because Montero grades out no better than a DH in years ahead).

      As an M’s fan, I may be biased. But unless the Yankees’ are going to trade their entire infield and pick up 98% of their salary…. you simply do not have the resourses to aquire Felix.


  12. uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 6:55 AM

    It seems to me that you fans of Greinke or Mariner fans are the ones that are delusional. No team is going to give away the store to sign Greinke and that includes the Yankees. If a team was going to they would have already made a deal with KC. As for King Felix is he a great pitcher? Absolutely. Is he worth 4 or 5 “high value” prospects/players and the $20M per in a year in payroll, that any team that might be interested in him would have to potentially pay. Absolutely NOT. Will he eventually feel the same way Greinke does about playing for a loser? Count on it. KC is the American Leagues equivalent of the Pirates. The definition of loser. As for Seattle they are on their way to becoming a non factor in the American League. It hasn’t been since 2003 that the Mariners have even come close to winning the AL West Division, and based on what they have done so far this off season Mariner fans can scratch 2011 from their wish list. The Mariners have money their ownership is wealthy beyond belief. Now they need to learn how to spend it and who to spend it on. Something they seem incapable of doing.
    As for the Yankees trading Cano, ain’t gonna happen for either player. Also, keep in mind while I’m sure the Yankees would love to sign and “ace” they do not need an ace. They need a #2 and #2’s simply do not cost the acquiring team 4 or 5 prospects and $15 to $20M per year. In 2 years the FA market for starting pitchers is ripe for the picking and there will be no need for the Yankees or most other “high revenue” teams to part with their farm system to acquire one player.

    • Jonny 5 - Dec 18, 2010 at 9:58 AM

      I bet Cash is now kicking himself for not smelling out the Oswalt move and beating the Phills out on the trade they made. They did get a Great frigging deal. I mean they got paid to take Oswalt……
      I’m smelling a multi team deal in the making. The Yanks need pitching. They have players to trade that don’t match the needs of known trading teams. I don’t think the Royals are all that interested in what the Yanks can get rid of honestly. That, with the fact we’re hearing nothing tells me a multi team deal is being conjured up as i type this. Blanton and some $ could be a nice incentive to KC. He is a solid pitcher who eats innings, and the Phills could use a decent OF. Not saying that’s going to happen, but I was just using that as example, KC will need someone to fill at least one of Greinkes’ shoes on the mound, No?

      • uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 10:50 AM

        In hindsight would the Yankees like to have him now? Sure. They my yet be able to sign Oswalt come 2012. I see where there is a mutual option after the end of the 2011 MLB season. We’ll have to see how content Oswalt is with a $16M option when Halladay is making $20M per and Lee is making $25M +/- per with the buyout factored in for 5 years. Considering all 3 pitchers are within one year of each other age wise.

    • seattlej - Dec 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM

      Hmmm. Until about three years ago wasn’t everyone saying that the Rays were the AL version of the Pirates. Teams change. They go through ups and downs. In the 80s the Yankees were pretty damn pathetic. Just a real disgusting franchise that couldn’t do anything right. Now they’re one of the better run franchises in baseball. The Royals will obviously never be the Yankees, but five years from now could they have a run like the Rays are having? You bet.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 5:57 PM

        seattlej – I assume you are referring to the period 1982 through 1993 the 11 year span. Rather then make a blanket statement let’s look at the Yankee record those years. The Yankees finished under .500 in 4 of those years. I would agree with your assessment those 4 years (1982, 1990, 1991 & 1992) the Yankees were pathetic. In 4 years the Yankees won 85 to 89 games (1984, 1987, 1988 & 1993) that’s hardly pathetic. In the other 3 years (1983, 1985 & 1986) the Yankees won 90 or more games I would say that’s pretty darn good. While the Yankees missed the post season their performance was hardly pathetic during that entire span of years.
        Now contrast that with Kansas City’s record from 1986 to 2010 Twenty Five years. They have had a winning record in exactly 6 of those years and only one winning season since 1994. Do you honestly believe there is even the remotest comparison with the Yankees record in the 1980’s or even the Tampa Bay Rays who only came into the league in 1998 as an expansion team and have already been to the post season 2 times (one of those times to the World Series).

  13. uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 9:46 AM

    Let’s see if this post will get a rise out of the always objective “bigharold”. As you so eloquently stated in an earlier post “Fortunately your opinion (referring to me) doesn’t count.” I thought I would share this opinion as well.
    From this Yankee fans standpoint I would much prefer the Yankees try and work a trade with either the Rays for Matt Garza or the Indians Fausto Carmona. Neither player would cost the Yankees nearly what the Royals are trying to get for Greinke and Garza or Carmona would be under the acquiring teams control for the next 3 or 4 years either via arbitration or club options and both would be more then reasonable from a payroll standpoint. Also, Garza is used to the rigors of the AL East and Carmon is used to the pressure of playoff baseball. Both players also satisfy the Yankees need for a #2 once Pettitte retires (probably in 2012). Then depending what pitcher(s) the Yankees target in 2013 one or the other could potentially be a #3. Dare I say that’s just my opinion.

    • proudlycanadian - Dec 18, 2010 at 10:06 AM

      As a Jays fan, I agree with you. Both Garza and Carmona would help the Yankees and would come cheaper than Greinke.

  14. PanchoHerreraFanClub - Dec 18, 2010 at 10:33 AM

    Boy, if Greinke didn’t have that no trade clause he would be a Pirate right now. He is what the Pirates have been saving their money for. It’s either that or a slight used Yugo.

    • wonkypenguin - Dec 18, 2010 at 10:38 AM

      😀 Awesome.

  15. dominatetheworld - Dec 18, 2010 at 12:06 PM

    Wow some of you are way ate up. Trade Cano for Greinke.. wtf, Trade Pujols for Greinke.. wtf x 2. Ya i’m sure the Yankees or Cardinals(the 2 teams with the most world series championships in mlb) would be dumb enough to trade their perennial MVP candidate for a starter that has had 1 “great” season and many average or bad years, has anxiety issues, is going to be 28 it’s not like he is a young prospect anymore and he would only be the 4th or maybe with a really good year 3rd best starter on either team. Only fair weather fans would say crap like that. Side note Philly will be an epic failure this season due to their offense imploding and relying too heavily on Utley he can’t do it all himself and the Yankees are going to have their hands full no matter what they do in the AL East because Boston is loaded up and the chances of them having 2 back to back injury plagued seasons are slim.

    • seattlej - Dec 18, 2010 at 3:27 PM

      dominatetheworld: Way to re-write history to serve your purposes. Are you also a holocaust denier and believe that the South was really fighting for freedom? Greinke has had one great season, two very good seasons and a few average seasons. He missed one season that you could certainly categorize as “bad.” The average and bad seasons occurred while he was struggling with an issue that he apparently has under control now. Those three very good and great seasons have been the last three. I would guess he’s probably never going to put up a 9 WAR season again since few pitchers even have one of those (though I could certainly be wrong on that), but I think the odds are pretty good that he’ll string together a few very good years in the 5 – 7 WAR range.

      In short, Greinke would probably be the best starter on the Yankees. Sure, you can argue that CC is better, and they’re definitely very, very close, but over the last three seasons Greinke’s been more valuable than CC and he’s three years younger. If I was picking one of them for next season, or the next 5 seasons, my money would be on Greinke.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 6:21 PM

        WOW, you take about delusional. So you consider 2010 one of Greinke’s 3 very good seasons. I guess when you only have 6 season to choose from a pitcher with 10-14 Win/Loss record, a 4.17 ERA, a 1.25 WHIP and a 2.60 BAA record sounds good. I know people/fans discount wins and loses these days but his ERA, WHIP and BAA don’t exactly bring tears of joy. Stop trying to defend the indefensible. Even if you discount CC’s performance with the Yankees check out his stats with Cleveland and Milwaukee not exactly powerhouse. Yet his performance was outstanding. Greinke’s not even a close 2nd to CC.

    • handsfour - Dec 19, 2010 at 4:24 PM

      People were JOKING about Pujols, and probably Cano. Sheesh.

  16. Jonny 5 - Dec 18, 2010 at 12:51 PM

    “Philly will be an epic failure this season due to their offense imploding and relying too heavily on Utley he can’t do it all himself”

    Yeah, because Howard, Polanco, Victorino, Ruiz, Rollins,and Ibanez are all going on vacation for 2011 or will all forget how to hit all at the same time. The Pirates might be able to make it to the WS with the Phillies rotation, so yeah, you make sense.

    • JBerardi - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:37 PM

      “because Howard, Polanco, Victorino, Ruiz, Rollins,and Ibanez are all going on vacation for 2011 or will all forget how to hit all at the same time.”

      Clearly, that’s ridiculous. They’re not all going to forget to hit at the same time; hell, some of them already forgot how to hit!

      Seriously though, let’s break it down:

      Declining: Howard,

      Declined: Rollins, Ibanez, Polanco

      Not that great in the first place: Ruiz

      Going strong: Victorino

      It’s not a scary offense at all.

  17. seattlej - Dec 18, 2010 at 2:10 PM

    uyf1950 – you speak of delusional Greinke and Ms fans, but continue to spout grand delusions of your own. The NY “pressure cooker” is simply a myth. It’s a delusion cooked up by NY fans to explain away any players failure to live up to lofty NY expectations (even when they’re not warranted). You cite Randy Johnson as an example. By the time RJ reached NY he was finished. It was a bad trade by Cashman and the expectations were way out of sync with reality (he was a 42 year old pitcher with a recent history of injuries for god’s sake). The NY fans seem to expect miracles by any player that puts on the vaunted pinstripes and when those miracles don’t occur the fans explain it away by applying your “NY pressure cooker” myth. The same thing goes for Vazquez – it couldn’t be that the guy has injury problems and that his velocity has dropped? It couldn’t be that Atlanta pulled a fast one on NY by shipping them damaged goods? No, the NY explanation is that he just can’t handle the pressure, when in reality it was probably just another bad trade by Cashman (who has a pretty dismal history of trading for veteran pitchers that are through… Johnson, Brown, Vazquez).

    Please stop with the NY rhetoric.

    • uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 6:57 PM

      Believe what you want. Since you are obviously a fan of perennial losers and located outside of New York, I bow to your intimate knowledge of NY Yankee baseball, NY Media and Yankee fans expectations.

      • proudlycanadian - Dec 18, 2010 at 7:31 PM

        And what have the Yankees done for their fans lately? The answer is “Nothing but heartaches!”

      • JBerardi - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:17 PM

        “Believe what you want.”

        Well, at least you’re following your own advice. There’s about as much real evidence that players fail because of the “NY pressure cooker” as there is for existence of the tooth fairy. But like you say, believe what you want. Just don’t make the mistake of thinking that any rational person cares what you simply believe to be true.

      • uyf1950 - Dec 18, 2010 at 9:28 PM

        Since you asked. I believe that many fans of teams that are habitual losers are jealous of more successful teams and their fans. And there is no more successful team in Major League Baseball then the Yankees. And that’s not an opinion that’s a fact.

      • JBerardi - Dec 18, 2010 at 11:42 PM

        Even if that was true, what exactly is it supposed to prove? I don’t understand why one’s jealousy of the Yankees has anything to do with one’s opinion on Zach Greinke.

  18. JBerardi - Dec 18, 2010 at 8:29 PM

    By the way, for anyone trying to make a statistical argument that Greinke isn’t that good… look at FIP or xFIP, WAR, tERA, whatever. Any sufficiently advanced statistic will tell you that he was easily one of the ten best starters in the AL last year. Any statistic that does not tell you this is, therefore, not sufficiently advanced.

  19. uyf1950 - Dec 19, 2010 at 8:08 AM

    It’s being reported that Greinke has been traded to the Brewers this morning. Imagine Greinke’s surprise when he heard the news. Going from one losing team to another losing team. With the Brewers only having control of Prince Fielder for the 2011 season before he becomes a free agent they are likely to be even a worse team come 2012. Someone explain to me how this trade makes either team better long term? The Royals gave up there prized pitcher for what doesn’t appear to be any game changers. And the Brewers received arguably a “very good” pitcher by some accounts for probably 2 years (Greinke will be a free agent in 2013) but they lose a major piece of their offense in 2012 when Fielder becomes a FA. How does being traded to Milwaukee satisfy Greinke’s desire to play for a winner? Even if you assume the very best case for Greinke’s new team. The Brewers are at most likely to be a .500 or slightly over .500 winning club in 2011 that would mean a 5 to 10 game turn around over their 2010 season. That still won’t be enough to overtake St. Louis or the Reds in that division. Then in 2012 they lose Fielder and revert back to a sub .500 team. I just don’t see this trade as being a game changer for either team or for Greinke for that matter.

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