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	<title>Comments on: Figuring out the Zack Grienke-to-Milwaukee rumor</title>
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		<title>By: uyf1950</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 23:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To nightman13 - I&#039;m going to assume you meant the Royals and not the Chiefs.  Perhaps my choice of words to describe the Brewers was a mistake.  But the question still remains assuming when and if both Fielder and Weeks depart for FA after the 2011 season the Brewers offense takes a huge hit.   I think any objective person would have to say their loss should it occur will not leave the Brewers in a very enviable position going forward.  And I think certainly cause Greinke to think twice before signing and extension to stay with the Brewers past his current contract.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To nightman13 &#8211; I&#8217;m going to assume you meant the Royals and not the Chiefs.  Perhaps my choice of words to describe the Brewers was a mistake.  But the question still remains assuming when and if both Fielder and Weeks depart for FA after the 2011 season the Brewers offense takes a huge hit.   I think any objective person would have to say their loss should it occur will not leave the Brewers in a very enviable position going forward.  And I think certainly cause Greinke to think twice before signing and extension to stay with the Brewers past his current contract.</p>
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		<title>By: nightman13</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 20:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[uyf1950-

The Brewers are a FAR better team than the Chiefs.  They now have one of the best rotations in the league now and one of the best lineups as well.  Fielder had a terrible year last year and the Brewers still had a great offense.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uyf1950-</p>
<p>The Brewers are a FAR better team than the Chiefs.  They now have one of the best rotations in the league now and one of the best lineups as well.  Fielder had a terrible year last year and the Brewers still had a great offense.</p>
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		<title>By: uyf1950</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 13:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the report is correct and Greinke has been traded to the Brewers this morning. Imagine Greinke’s surprise when he heard the news. Going from one losing team to another losing team. With the Brewers only having control of Prince Fielder for the 2011 season before he becomes a free agent they are likely to be even a worse team come 2012 then they were in 2010. Someone explain to me how this trade makes either team better long term? The Royals gave up there prized pitcher for what doesn’t appear to be any game changers.  And the Brewers received arguably a “very good” pitcher by some accounts for probably 2 years (Greinke will be a free agent in 2013) but they lose a major piece of their offense in 2012 when Fielder becomes a FA. How does being traded to Milwaukee satisfy Greinke’s desire to play for a winner? Even if you assume the very best case for Greinke’s new team. The Brewers are at most likely to be a .500 or slightly over .500 winning club in 2011 that would mean a 5 to 10 game turn around over their 2010 season. That still won’t be enough to overtake St. Louis or the Reds in that division. Then in 2012 they lose Fielder and revert back to a sub .500 team. I just don’t see this trade as being a game changer for either team or for Greinke for that matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the report is correct and Greinke has been traded to the Brewers this morning. Imagine Greinke’s surprise when he heard the news. Going from one losing team to another losing team. With the Brewers only having control of Prince Fielder for the 2011 season before he becomes a free agent they are likely to be even a worse team come 2012 then they were in 2010. Someone explain to me how this trade makes either team better long term? The Royals gave up there prized pitcher for what doesn’t appear to be any game changers.  And the Brewers received arguably a “very good” pitcher by some accounts for probably 2 years (Greinke will be a free agent in 2013) but they lose a major piece of their offense in 2012 when Fielder becomes a FA. How does being traded to Milwaukee satisfy Greinke’s desire to play for a winner? Even if you assume the very best case for Greinke’s new team. The Brewers are at most likely to be a .500 or slightly over .500 winning club in 2011 that would mean a 5 to 10 game turn around over their 2010 season. That still won’t be enough to overtake St. Louis or the Reds in that division. Then in 2012 they lose Fielder and revert back to a sub .500 team. I just don’t see this trade as being a game changer for either team or for Greinke for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 11:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the season to be giving! If this story is true, then the Royals are being very generous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the season to be giving! If this story is true, then the Royals are being very generous.</p>
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		<title>By: normswifevera</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 09:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like the kind of package KC wants if they&#039;re mentally deficient.

Escobar is/was a great prospect, but didn&#039;t exactly light it up in his first big league action. Still, he&#039;s a nice piece if there&#039;s other high quality stuff going back with him.

But there&#039;s not. A CF with no offensive pop. A relief pitcher who&#039;s already been popped twice for drugs. And possibly a single A pitcher with some potential who is years away at best.

For Zack Grenkie? Especially to an NL team, where he&#039;ll dominate? Child, please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the kind of package KC wants if they&#8217;re mentally deficient.</p>
<p>Escobar is/was a great prospect, but didn&#8217;t exactly light it up in his first big league action. Still, he&#8217;s a nice piece if there&#8217;s other high quality stuff going back with him.</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s not. A CF with no offensive pop. A relief pitcher who&#8217;s already been popped twice for drugs. And possibly a single A pitcher with some potential who is years away at best.</p>
<p>For Zack Grenkie? Especially to an NL team, where he&#8217;ll dominate? Child, please.</p>
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