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What does the Greinke deal mean for Carl Pavano?

Dec 19, 2010, 12:43 PM EDT


The dominoes are beginning to fall.

Cliff Lee went off the board late Monday night, making Carl Pavano the “best” starting pitcher left standing in the free agent market, for better or worse. The Brewers had interest in signing Pavano, but were reportedly reluctant to go beyond two years. Now that they have traded for Zack Greinke, we can cross them off the list.

Jon Paul Morosi of tweeted a short while ago that the Twins have regained a little bit of leverage as far as retaining the free agent right-hander, and that’s probably true, but other teams who wanted Greinke, such as the Nationals or Rangers, may have more of a sense of urgency with Pavano than they did yesterday. Not necessarily a bad thing for him.

Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe speculated this morning that signing Pavano would take $36 million over three years. The other comparable signings out there this winter include Ted Lilly, who received $33 million over three years from the Dodgers and Jorge De La Rosa, who is essentially guaranteed $32 million over three years with the Rockies. It’s not unreasonable to think that Pavano could pocket a few extra million for holding out, especially in an environment where teams have not been hesitant about spending.

  1. twofistedslopper - Dec 19, 2010 at 12:44 PM

    Mustache futures shot up this morning.

  2. bigharold - Dec 19, 2010 at 1:14 PM


  3. proudlycanadian - Dec 19, 2010 at 1:55 PM

    Go for it Yankees. We know how much he likes to pitch in New York!

  4. pisano - Dec 19, 2010 at 2:14 PM

    What does the Greinke deal mean for Carl Pavano? It means he’ll never pitch for the Yankees again, but if he gets a vendors license he might to be able to sell Nathan’s hot dogs outside the stadium. Seriously, as the saying goes: ” once burned, twice shy” I think the experiment with Javy Vazquez sunk Pavano and the strained ass muscle was the coup de grace. If he’s smart he’ll resign with the Twins the fans like him and he pitched good there.

    • uyf1950 - Dec 19, 2010 at 3:06 PM

      I like your thinking.

    • bigharold - Dec 19, 2010 at 4:06 PM

      Is it likely that the Yankees make an offer to Pavanoi? No, but it’s not out of the question. If Yankee fans could not only accept but root for guys like Strawberry and Clemens anything is possible. But, if he flames out like last time or just doesn’t produce, I think at that point Cashman’s job might be in Jeopardy.

      Bringing Vasquez back didn’t get Cashman any points in the Universe. It took nerve but with Vasquez, aside from the fact that he clearly wanted to be a Yankee and unlike Pavano gave it everything he had, he was a one year deal. To sign Pavano the Yankees would need to cough up a three year deal in the $25-35 mill range. That contract goes south and Brian might need to tune up his resume.

      In the end baseball is a results orientated business. If Pavano wins, all will be forgotten if not forgiven. If he folds up like a cheap card table, like last time, it will be a disaster that will not go unpunished. Whether the Yankees do anything with Pavano will be driven by their options and be an indicator of just how confident they feel in Burnett.

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