Comments on: Conlin: lose the Hall of Fame morals clause

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 22:01:31 +0000

Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich. Great story, tragic shit for the kids to go through. Wasn’t there a film about that, or is there supposed to be one in the works?

By: Glenn

Glenn — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:50:34 +0000

Am I missing something? I don’t think that voters are keeping PED users out because of moral issues, but because they greatly distorted baseball’s “sacred” numbers and greatly inflated their own stats. I wouldn’t vote for, say, Rafael Palmiero not because of moral issues, but because I doubt he would even be in the HOF discussion if he played clean.

By: BC

BC — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 16:47:12 +0000

Cleon should definitely be on the ballot starting now and for perpetuity. As should the two Yankees pitchers that swapped wives in the early 70′s (though the question is, was there draft pick compensation involved).

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:12:55 +0000

Hey, BC, if we get rid of the morals clause we can wipe clean the slate of Cleon Jones and the girl in the van in the parking lot and put him back on the ballot for a fair reconsideration. He'll always be in my hall of fame precisely because of that, even though some of my astronaut heroes had a higher score score.

By: CJ

CJ — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:10:51 +0000

douchenozzle is a light way to put it. I stopped reading his stuff when I was like 14. But for possibly the first time since (or before, for that matter), he might actually be onto something legit.

By: bigharold

bigharold — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:06:04 +0000

Actually that’s about right. There is no way of knowing in most cases, .. merely unsubstantiated speculation. Consider this, .. Barry Bonds never failed a PED test nor has he ever admitted that he took them, .. and it appears that he’s not getting convicted on this perjury charge. If this in fact the case, .. why should he be excluded? On what basis?

This is a murky area that will not become clearer without time and distance. All this self righteous BS, especially from sports writers, is naive, myopic and self serving.

By: BC

BC — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 14:43:11 +0000

I really can’t stand Conlin, but in this case I agree with him. Cut through all the s— and just move on.
Ty Cobb is in, and his transgressions are known – heck, who knows what isn’t known about him.
Mickey Mantle and Whitey Ford were the biggest drunks and womanizers ever and they’re in.
Babe Ruth – enough said.
How many guys in the 1970s that are in were doing amphetimines? We don’t know.
Ferguson Jenkins is in, and he had a bit of a problem with the Colombia White Stuff if I recall.
I say shelve the PED thing already. I’m tired of it. Everyone is. Just vote in who you believe were the best of the best in their era when judged against their peers, period. Stop the insanity.
(Sorry. I’m cranky today. 19 inches of snow outside here in northern CT and still coming down)

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:44:18 +0000

Yeah… just because Bill Conlin won the Spink doesn’t mean you really want to align yourself with him. I’m sure our Philly contingent can expound on this, but the guy’s a bit of a douchenozzle.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:37:25 +0000

How is it that a Spink Award winner cannot be bothered to spend one hour reading about HGH, which most certainly does not increase head size, strength, or reflexes in any healthy person of MLB-playing age. Is it really that hard for a “columnist” to have a basic understanding of his topics. Sheesh.