Comments on: Let’s not convict Milton Bradley in the court of public opinion just yet

By: The Rabbit

The Rabbit — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 06:40:27 +0000

On the subject of bail-I suspect there have been studies done and depending on how the stats are sliced and diced, you’ll get conflicting views whether or not the system favors or hurts the poor. I also suspect that the result will be directly related to who paid for and which “think tank” performed the study.
On the subject of an actual trial- Can’t disagree with you at all. We have the best and fairest justice system money can buy.
Yeah, you nailed it.

Try and keep warm…My sis tells me it’s freakin’ cold in Red Lion.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:51:32 +0000

I think the bail system is more “effective” than it is fair or even. And I don’t think it was meant to be fair or even at all. Which in the case of bail it can’t be even and still be effective. It favors the poor in the “fairness” dept. But when trial time comes the rich have a huge, and unfair advantage when they hire their “big guns” attorneys to twist and warp the facts until enough doubt exists to acquit. Sad but true. The PD really isn’t nearly as effective and that is a fact, and also very unfair, which favors the rich in the “fairness” dept. We are definately barking up the wrong tree with the choice of vocab in regards to the judicial system. Did I nail it yet? Ha that was fun.

By: The Rabbit

The Rabbit — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:35:13 +0000

@Johnny5
I don’t know if I’m cool, but I’ve been told I’m very warped.

By: The Rabbit

The Rabbit — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:33:59 +0000

@Johnny5
IMHO The only way to make the “bail system” fair and even is to take “means” into consideration.
If the bail amount were very high, the rich would able to sit comfortably at home awaiting trial while the working class and poor would be sitting in cells.
Conversely, if the amount were set too set low (although high enough to force appearance of middle class and poor), the default of bail may not penalize wealthy person who if guilty may consider flight a very reasonable option.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:19:48 +0000

Very true, for a moment there I was thinking our judicial system was fair and even without any bias towards those with or without money. What was i thinking? Someone smack me please. And I’m glad no offense was taken. You’re very cool. Or you’re as warped as I am, which is a very rare occurrence i find.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:14:29 +0000

That’s awesome, thanks. I really don’t want to change anyway. What a relief.

By: clydeserra

clydeserra — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:43:50 +0000

The bail is not high for this charge. It looks like schedule bail to me.

By: The Rabbit

The Rabbit — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:20:45 +0000

I’m not a lawyer but I would think the purpose of bail would be to try to insure that someone appears for trial, i.e., there would be a significant loss if he/she skips .
If I were a judge, Milton Bradley or someone with his resources would have higher bail than someone who had to sign over his house and borrow money to make bond.

PS Now that I have read your other comments, I found them funny. Definitely no apology necessary.

By: The Rabbit

The Rabbit — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:12:19 +0000

Hi Jonny,
Yes, I’m very female; however, “lady” (as generally accepted) would not be a term to which I have ever aspired.
No apology is ever necessary…I can be crude, sarcastic, ironic, sophomoric, and funny which may be why most of my friends are men.

By: larryhockett

larryhockett — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:02:53 +0000

Surprisingly, I know nothing of the defenistration of the Canadian beaver. Although in the spirit of the forum that shall not prevent me from declaring your opinions ridiculous, unfounded, downright evil and quite possibly the genesis of the downfall of our very civilization. I demand that you and your ilk be locked up forever so that said beavers can defenistrate to their little hearts’ content without undue interference.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:44:28 +0000

Rabbit! Hey, so you’re a lady….. I apologize for being crude below. I will amend my ways.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:32:33 +0000

I always throw Keilbasa to any beaver I run across. I always knew those Frenchies were kinda on the funny side. I also don’t see how anyone could get tired of the Chocolate sauce and whip cream either. Strange…..

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:13:17 +0000

That was my impression of it too. But of course, that was before Meech Lake. PC seems to think that beaver is infiltrating major urban areas in Canada. Ergo, part of the problem may be that kids are throwing poutine to beaver, which is sorta the Canadian answer to horrible horsemeat and velveeta sandwiches.

Then again, they just may be getting tired of whipped cream and chocolate sauce.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:12:47 +0000

Especially the always enjoyable giant inflatable ones.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 17:04:21 +0000

I hear Canada is loaded with som fine beaver. Who would want to toss THAT away?

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:59:24 +0000

I suspect that the bail was set high so that Bradley would injure his Achilles tendon jumping for it, and then the Mariners could collect his salary back from insurance while trying to figure out whether they could get away with voiding his contract.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:57:36 +0000

That's what they've turned into, certainly, but they were invented for sober, factually substantiated, responsible and respectful exchanges of ideas and opinions, like, for example, why is Canadian beaver defenistrating, or how quickly does cholesterol plaque from horrible horsemeat and velveeta sandwiches build up in the arteries of a Feelies season ticket holder. Rational and precision discourse is an ideal I attempt to support every time I sit down at my keyboard, as everyone here knows.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:45:19 +0000

Another thought: we could call the remake Honeymooners II: Once Were Bus Drivers."

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:38:59 +0000

This for Craig.

Would it be safe to say that the situation was indeed quite serious due to the fact that bail was set so high? I know a person charged with this, that had bail set much, much, lower. And it was something deemed very serious at the time as it was a death threat.

By: larryhockett

larryhockett — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 15:22:34 +0000

But we have to offer critical opinions based on little or no actual knowledge of the subject matter. Isn’t that what internet forums were invented for?

By: The Rabbit

The Rabbit — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:42:52 +0000

Via e-mail, my ex threatened to kill an ex-girlfriend multiple times a day.
You’d think he would fit CA Code 422 perfectly; however, he was actually charged with making terroristic threats on the internet. This was before the 9/11 and the fine was $500..and it wasn’t a felony.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:47:16 +0000

Okay, so he’s innocent until proven guilty of threatening her, but that doesn’t mean we have to hold off of accusing him of steroid use, does it?

And when do we actually get to see those director’s cut Honeymooners episodes where Ralph finally hauls off and lets her have it? It wouldn’t be quite the same thing if we had to wait for the remake and watch John Goodman to unload on Minnie Driver.

By: Craig Calcaterra

Craig Calcaterra — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:46:55 +0000

Absolutely: mock away. The man has certainly earned it.

By: largebill

largebill — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:44:42 +0000

There is a corollary to the “innocent until proven guilty” adage called “mocked until proven innocent.” None of us are going to serve on his jury so it really doesn’t matter if someone cracks a joke such as “Wow, Milton’s already in mid-season shape.” Actually, mid season form for him would be to go on the DL.

By: writtenbyross

writtenbyross — Wed, 19 Jan 2011 11:20:13 +0000

His history of anger management issues is a perfect reason not to convict him until proven guilty. It would be very easy for the right person to get back at him through a charge like this knowing not many would question the plausibility of it.