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Phillies have ‘some hunger in our mouths’

Feb 1, 2011, 12:34 AM EDT

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Yesterday we found out that Hanley Ramirez has the “hunger of a rookie.”

Today we find out some bad news for Marlins fans: The Philadelphia Phillies are also very hungry, maybe even hungrier than Hanley Ramirez. That’s what happens when you reach the NLCS and then sign Cliff Lee in the offseason.

This is what Phillies starter Roy Halladay told Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com:

“The longer you play the more hungry you get,” Halladay said. “All of us are to the point where we’ve had success and established ourselves. Once you do that, the most important thing becomes winning. I know Oswalt and Cliff feel the same way. We’re at that point in our careers where you really have to start chasing it. To be able to be on this team, right now, I think we all have to like our chances and hope we can do what we need to do to get it done.”

Shane Victorino went even further:

“There’s some hunger in our mouths,” centerfielder Shane Victorino said. “I don’t think we can be any hungrier than we are right now.”

Since this is two hungry guys vs. Florida’s one hungry guy, I’m going to have to tab the Phillies as the early favorites to win the NL East. Of course we have yet to hear from the Mets, Nats and Braves, so things could change.

All this talk of appetites brings two questions to mind:

1) Could there possibly be a better way to explain the arbitration process than to give a fake Prince Fielder a bunch of cheeseburgers? (“Now, the arbitrator cheeseburger’s decision is binding and determines the number of cheeseburgers for compensation. He could determine that the player deserves six, eight, or 10 cheeseburgers, which I will now eat.”)

2) How will this phenomenon affect all these players who are in the best shape of their lives?

As complicated as these matters are, one thing is clear: I’m hungry for spring training to start.

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  1. seeingwhatsticks - Feb 1, 2011 at 12:39 AM

    Guess what was missing last year wasn’t a competent manager or a decent bullpen, it was just hunger.

    • macjacmccoy - Feb 1, 2011 at 1:53 AM

      Yea because you can win a division title in 07′ win a world series in 08′ win a pennant in 09′ and make the NLCS in 10′ while being an incompetent manager.

      • seeingwhatsticks - Feb 1, 2011 at 2:09 AM

        You are incompetent when you leave your lefties together so your opponents’ lefty specialist can get both out, even though you had a slugging righty to put in between them. That’s not smart. Also bringing in a 33 year old start in relief when your pen is fully rested isn’t too bright either.

        Javier Lopez, Bruce Bochy > Chahlie Manuel, Chase Utley, Ryan Howard

      • Jonny 5 - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:03 AM

        Wait, I thought you said that it was “superior pitching” that beat the Phills in the NLCS… Now it’s incompetent managing too? Wow, I’m shocked the Phills even made the playoffs. I guess you knew their lightning in a bottle escaped them and they were doomed in the championship series….. Oh I Can’t wait until this season is over, so I don’thave to see the inferior pitching as well as incompetent managing of the Phills. I won’t be able to drink my beer I’ll be so sick….

      • Mark - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:23 AM

        You do realize that Utley has no platoon split at all, right? He was significantly better vs LHP last year, and for his career he’s an identical 894 OPS vs both RHP and LHP. Of course, now the Phils don’t have a strong RH bat, which is Amaro’s fault, and not Manuel’s.

      • seeingwhatsticks - Feb 1, 2011 at 1:36 PM

        I’m less interested in what stats say about Utley and/or Howard and more interested in what I saw with my own eyes. Lopez dominated them in that series. Period. Initially Chahlie refused to do anything about it even though the obvious solution was to go Utley-Werth-Howard and break them up. Either he was too stubborn to make the necessary adjustments based on the situation, or he was not smart enough to recognize them. Eventually he did make a change but rather than moving Werth, which was clearly the best solution, he put Polanco in the 3 hole between Utley and Howard. I mean, that’s the equivalent of showing up 3 hours late to a dinner party and bringing a 6 pack of Natty Ice instead of a bottle of wine.

        The Giants did/do have superior starting pitching but if the Phillies had a more reliable bullpen they might have been able to get more out of their starters by either shortening the game or, you know, not having to use them as relievers. The Phillies could have won the series but Chahlie couldn’t get out of his own way. Chahlie and the Phillies played the series like an AL team, sitting around and waiting for the 3 run homer and the big inning that never came because the Giants pitching is too good. While Bochy was making moves and making adjustments, tweaking his lineup and his defense and never hesitating to go to his bullpen, Chahlie just sat there and did nothing.

  2. macjacmccoy - Feb 1, 2011 at 1:50 AM

    See this is how a write a Phillies article or a story about any team real . You can still poke fun at them and make it funny(and it was) without it being condescending.

  3. Bochy's Head/Timmy's Bong - Feb 1, 2011 at 2:51 AM

    Harkins wins today’s FJM Memorial Food Metaphors Tag.

    • billybeaneismyhero - Feb 1, 2011 at 6:24 AM

      Damn you beat me to it. Somewhere Ken Tremendous is totally freaking out.

      • Bob Harkins - Feb 1, 2011 at 12:30 PM

        Someone send Ken the link. He probably hasn’t noticed yet because he’s so busy with “Community.” Or is it “Parks and Rec”? Either way, I hear he’s hungry for an Emmy.

  4. hnirobert3 - Feb 1, 2011 at 7:51 AM

    Isn’t that what Fredi Gonzalez is preaching to the Bravos as well? Being hungry?

  5. Panda Claus - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:03 AM

    Should anybody in Philadelphia really be so hungry? I mean there’s a lot of places to get some good food and all.

  6. Jonny 5 - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:05 AM

    In other news, Joe Blanton cried at Amaro’s feet when he mentioned a possible trade. He’s now accepting 3 cheese steaks daily as compensation. Joe is pleased.

  7. sknut - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:14 AM

    Is it good to be this hungry this earlier, at this point we will see a bunch of Phillies on the DL in May with “sore tummies”. And then there will be stories about the players moms warning them not to overeat.

  8. Jonny 5 - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:39 AM

    “Today we find out some bad news for Marlins fans: The Philadelphia Phillies are also very hungry, maybe even hungrier than Hanley Ramirez.”

    Look out the Feesh signed Greg Dobbs…….. Reeeeeeeal damn hungry….

  9. BC - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:41 AM

    But are the Phils in the best shape of their lives?

  10. Brian - Feb 1, 2011 at 8:58 AM

    how is one hungry in the mouth? i may not be a doctor, but i’m pretty sure hunger is a stomach related mechanism. shane’s had too many pina coladas.

    • BC - Feb 1, 2011 at 9:20 AM

      Is there a place in the US right now where its warm enough to have a pina colada without freezing to death? Certainly not here in Connecticut.

      • Adam - Feb 1, 2011 at 9:56 AM

        Well, I don’t know if you know this because hardly anyone does, but Shane’s from Hawaii. I’m sure it is there.

  11. yankeesfanlen - Feb 1, 2011 at 9:37 AM

    Since Gator’s in jolly ol’ England, I will have to ask: How can one be hungry with so much horsemeat and Velveeta around?

  12. JD - Feb 1, 2011 at 9:54 AM

    Philly and Florida have some company: looks like the Mets are hungry too. http://www.metsblog.com/2011/02/01/listen-live-angel-pagan-in-studio-on-wfan-at-8-am/

  13. Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Feb 1, 2011 at 10:37 AM

    Mmmm, Salisbury steak.

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