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Andy Pettitte’s retirement (and Jamie Moyer’s injury) means no active pitcher has 200 wins

Feb 3, 2011, 2:47 PM EDT

Tim Wakefield AP

Andy Pettitte is announcing his retirement tomorrow and Jamie Moyer’s chances for a comeback are looking very shaky following Tommy John elbow surgery at age 48, which means no active pitchers have 200 career wins.

In fact, only one active pitcher has more than 170 wins and it’s … Tim Wakefield with 193. Seriously, here’s the active wins leaderboard with Pettitte and Moyer out of the picture:

Tim Wakefield         193
Roy Halladay          169
Livan Hernandez       166
Tim Hudson            165
Kevin Millwood        159
Derek Lowe            157
CC Sabathia           157
Javier Vazquez        152
Roy Oswalt            150

And no one else has 150 victories. Wakefield is facing an uphill battle to reach 200 wins, but he figures to be the active leader until at least mid-2012.

  1. BC - Feb 3, 2011 at 2:52 PM

    Would have thought Halladay was closer to 200. Learn something new every day.

    • clydeserra - Feb 3, 2011 at 3:38 PM

      AL East and crappy bullpens FTL

  2. Ari Collins - Feb 3, 2011 at 3:10 PM

    Wakefield will probably retire after this year, I think. (Though who knows with him.) So Halladay will be the active leader a year from now.

    I think the “No one will ever get 300 wins again!” guys are ridiculous (Sabathia and Halladay have decent shots), but pitchers do get fewer wins than they used to. The real question is, has there ever before been a time with no active pitchers with 200 wins?

    • spudchukar - Feb 3, 2011 at 3:42 PM

      C’mon Ari.

      • Ari Collins - Feb 3, 2011 at 5:16 PM

        What’d I do?

  3. nyyankeefanforever - Feb 3, 2011 at 11:05 PM

    @Ari The answer to your question is no, the last time there was no active 200-game winners you’d have to go back to the turn of the last century and debate which leagues were considered the majors and which weren’t. After John Smoltz made his final appearance on September 30, 2009 for the St. Louis Cardinals (he finished with 213 W’s), Pettitte and Moyer were the only remaining guys in the club.

    I think short of a dual plane crash, Halladay and Sabathia are both locks to hit 200 wins….Roy in 2 years, Sabathia in 3. Unfortunately for Roy, he missed so many starts due to injury earlier in his career he has almost no hope of reaching 250 while CC has probably a better than 50-50 shot at being the next — and likely last — 300 game winner we’ll live to see. As for Wakefield, it’s highly possible he won’t get there as he’s likely only going to be pitching in blowouts tjis year, or if three other starters go down on the DL.

    • Ari Collins - Feb 4, 2011 at 9:55 AM

      See marinermousse below. It’s tough to make it, Sabathia’s probably less than 50/50, but there are others behind him with a shot (like Felix) and there are others behind them.

      Also, I’m pretty sure only one or MAYBE two starters would have to go down for Wake to get some time starting. Only Felix Doubront might be ahead of him on the depth chart.

  4. marinermousse - Feb 4, 2011 at 2:40 AM

    I don’t buy into the “no more 300 wins” talk. It is a monumental task and requires:
    a.) Early age to be a full-time starter (see Felix Hernandez, Mat Latos, Tommy Hanson etc.)
    b.) Obviously GREAT skills
    c.) A long period of time on a relatively successful team (see Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine) and teams with good bullpen support.
    d.) Great conditioning and avoidance of injuries for the longevity necessary

    At age 29 Dwight Gooden had 157 wins and 1875 strikeouts….

    Super-longevity can overcome a.)…as witness Jamie Moyer’s stats AFTER 30

    233 wins!!

    King Felix has 71 wins and over 1,000K and he won’t turn 25 until April.

    There is no doubt that the 5 man rotations will make it more challenging than in the past, but great bullpens may allow more longevity.

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