Comments on: Ross Ohlendorf beats Pirates in arbitration hearing to match his 2010 win total http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Thu, 23 May 2013 00:58:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: kiwicricket http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110351 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:20:06 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110351 If Ohlendorf pitched like he did for any other team, he would probably be making 6-8 million? (12Million with the Mets)

]]> By: Ace http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110344 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:50:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110344 Yes, a good point, Spudchukar. Quality Start Percentage is a decent metric to measure that. And what the hell, since you brought him up again in your other comment down below: Hughes and Ohlendorf had identical Quality Start Percentages of 52% last season. Weird. (I really don’t mean to single out Hughes and pick on him, I just think this is sort of fascinating.)

]]> By: spudchukar http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110334 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:03:15 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110334 If Hughes pitched like he did for the Pinstripes, but played for the Buccos, something tells me he would have a similar W-L record to Ohlendorf’s.

]]> By: spudchukar http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110333 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:59:33 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110333 They should matter some. Give me a pitcher who consistently gives up 3-4 runs every outing, insuring his team of a chance to win, over a guy who is superb in one outing, marginal in the next and then implodes. Same overall ERA, OBA and WHIP but in 10 outings pitcher #1 is 7-3, while #2 is 5-5.

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110309 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:56:12 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110309 Im not upset about CC. Price should have won it. maybe even Lester. but certainly not Felix. w/e

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110308 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:52:46 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110308 LMAO! the only thing i remember about July 4 weekend was Gardner hitting an inside the park HR and Thames walking off in the 9th.

]]> By: Reflex http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110294 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 19:24:04 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110294 Correction: Wins as a metric for pitching performance do not matter anymore. They matter plenty as a team metric, in fact at the end of the day they are the only metric that matters for a team.

For a pitcher? No. Nor should they.

]]> By: BC http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110263 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:21:57 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110263 Wins don’t matter any more.

]]> By: Chris Fiorentino http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110262 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:20:35 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110262 That one victory was against the Phillies on July 4th weekend…it was his first win in over a year and it was one day after Daniel McCutchen ALSO got his first win in over a year…against the Phillies as well. What a crappy July 4th weekend that was.

]]> By: Ace http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110259 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:11:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110259 Check this out: Phil Hughes In 2010: 18-8, 4.19 ERA. I know you’re still smarting about CC, but it’s time to let it go.

]]> By: missthemexpos http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110251 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:42:59 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110251 That one victory was worth $600,000 to Ohlendorf. I think that at 0-12, the Pirates would win the case with their 1.4 million offer, regardless the ERA, because as ugly as 1-12 looks, a big goose egg looks even worse.

]]> By: phukyouk http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110250 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:36:19 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110250 1-11? a few more wins and he would have been a Cy young contender

]]> By: Panda Claus http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110247 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:27:16 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110247 He can thank Kevin Millwood, along with his four wins and $12M 2010 salary for this one. Doesn’t look good for the teams on the other 11 players if a one-win guy wins his case right out of the box. Time to settle those cases guys.

]]> By: Charles Gates http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/09/ross-ohlendorf-beats-pirates-in-arbitration-hearing-to-match-his-2010-win-total/comment-page-1/#comment-110244 Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:22:50 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=38674#comment-110244 Ross Ohlendorf is a burrito.

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