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Here’s a bad idea: A Michael Young for Francisco Liriano trade

Feb 10, 2011, 11:32 AM EDT

Francisco Liriano

On the heels of Joe Christensen’s report this morning that the Twins may be open to trading Francisco Liriano comes a column by the Star Tribune’s Howard Sinker in which he toys with a possible scenario: a Francisco Liriano for Michael Young trade:

In a deal with the Twins, that would mean Texas picking up a big chunk of Young’s salary. For the Rangers, it means getting a lefty pitcher who doesn’t have Lee’s credentials, but brings a lot more to them than other options.

It would be an insane trade of the Rangers picked up all of Young’s salary. ¬†Really, it might be one of the worst trades in living memory.

Can someone please tell me where this Liriano hate is coming from at the Strib today? ¬†Was there a meeting last with talking points handed out that I missed? We’re still talking about the same Liriano about whom there was non-trivial discussion as a Cy Young candidate last year, right?

  1. jontler - Feb 10, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    I don’t know why, but a lot of fans in Minnesota don’t see Liriano as a great pitcher. The public perception is that he’s a middle rotation starter at best, and they don’t think his last season was anything special.

    The Strib is just playing into that sentiment, and it’s disgusting to watch.

    • Andrew - Feb 10, 2011 at 1:42 PM

      It’s completely asinine. Many fans believe Pavano is the ace of the staff, just because he pitched deeper into games more often with a similar ERA. However, Liriano is clearly the more dominant pitcher, and I think he’ll get a chance to show that in 2011.

    • AK47 - Feb 10, 2011 at 4:16 PM

      If I can speak for some Twins fans, i definitely don’t agree with the sentiment that he (Liriano) is not the Twins ace. He is, hands down, no doubts about it. If there are Twins fans out there who think he’s not, they are seriously misinformed.

  2. arrabin56 - Feb 10, 2011 at 11:52 AM

    Who the heck is the SP he’s referring to at the end of the article? I can’t figure that out.

    • umpire6 - Feb 10, 2011 at 12:01 PM

      I believe it’s Fausto Carmona, but I’m not entirely sure. The entire post is bizarre.

    • terryindallas - Feb 10, 2011 at 12:06 PM

      Carlos Zambrano fits the parameters he outlines, big contract, went 8-0 in the last two months of the season. Insanity.

  3. atk71483 - Feb 10, 2011 at 11:57 AM

    Christensen never “reports that the Twins don’t think of Francisco Liriano as a long-term part of their plans,” as Sinker claims. Christensen *speculates* this. The only thing Christensen actually reports is that the two sides did not come to an agreement on a long term contract, and that the Twins weren’t particularly interested in doing so.

    The Star Tribune manufacturing this issue and then self-indulgently giving it further credibility is ridiculous.

    • strandedtwinsfan - Feb 10, 2011 at 3:05 PM

      I completely agree. This idea that the Twins are looking to unload their best pitcher seems out of nowhere. He may be an injury risk but he’s still the Twins best pitcher and importantly they get to pay him a below market salary until the end of 2012. Any trade would have to be lopsided in favor of the Twins for this to happen.

  4. kander013 - Feb 10, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    It’s the Star Tribune, what do you expect? It’s the same newspaper that has a 90 something Sid Hartman who claims the Twins should have kept Punto and passed on Nishioka. Nishioka isn’t the answer, but the dude is nuts:

    • cusoman - Feb 10, 2011 at 1:00 PM

      Haven’t you figured it out yet? Sid writes positively about anyone that has given him an interview thus making that person his “close personal friend” and writes negatively about anyone who hasn’t.

  5. BC - Feb 10, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    I actually hope it happens, because it would displace the Scott Kazmir / Victor Zambrano trade as the worst ever.
    But seriously though…. WHAT IS MINNESOTA THINKING???!?!?!?

  6. ThatGuy - Feb 10, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    The entire thought that they would trade him today or even this season is insane, if they don’t think he will hold up and don’t want to go long term fine, trade him prior to 2012 or during 2012. But our rotation would be awful with out him, with 5 pitchers that are pretty much the exact same person. They need to wait and see how Gibson/Wimmers are progressing before they do anything with Liriano.

  7. docktorellis - Feb 10, 2011 at 12:52 PM


  8. sknut - Feb 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM

    I just lost a lot of respect for Sinker, usually he provides level headed analysis but this is straight up crazy.

  9. hardjudge - Feb 10, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    Where is the hatred of Liriano coming from. Probably the same place your extreme hatred of Michael (5 200 hits season) Young is coming from. The Rangers should keep him. They will need him when Beltre returns to his non contract year normal.

    • billtpa - Feb 10, 2011 at 3:29 PM

      Beltre’s non-contract-year norm is much, much, *much* better than Michael Young.

  10. vikesfansteve - Feb 10, 2011 at 5:23 PM

    Did Young hit on your wife or something Craig?

    • Craig Calcaterra - Feb 10, 2011 at 5:26 PM

      He tried, but he whiffed. And then when she walked around him, he couldn’t move left fast enough to stop her.

      And he wanted her to pay for everything.

      • jstrizzle - Feb 10, 2011 at 8:11 PM

        That was awesome

    • kiwicricket - Feb 10, 2011 at 9:01 PM

      Has Favre hit on yours?

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