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Report: Albert Pujols turns down Cardinals’ contract offer

Feb 13, 2011, 6:25 PM EDT

Albert Pujols

A source told USA TODAY’s Bob Nightengale that Albert Pujols has rejected a contract proposal from the Cardinals.

It’s been long reported that the Cardinals hadn’t made an offer, but according to Nightengale’s source they did recently and Pujols turned it down. The source goes on to say that, barring a dramatic turnaround, Pujols will announce Tuesday that no additional contract talks will take place until after the World Series.

Pujols, who is set to become a free agent for the first time following the 2011 season, is believed to be requesting a 10-year deal, possibly in the $30 million-per-year range. There’s been no word on what the Cardinals might have offered.

  1. lorddarkhelmet - Feb 13, 2011 at 7:02 PM

    10yr/300 mil for a 31 year old baseball player? I know he is the best hitter on the planet, but Cabrera got an eight year/153 mil contract no way I see Pujols as worth anything close to double.

    • spudchukar - Feb 13, 2011 at 8:33 PM

      Cabrera can’t run. Cabrera can’t field. Cabrera does not have Pujols’ power. Cabrera has had issues with substance abuse. Cabrera is no Pujols.

      • Chris K - Feb 13, 2011 at 10:51 PM

        Sir, I have MET Albert Pujols. And you sir, Mr. Cabrera, are NO Albert Pujols

      • jstrizzle - Feb 14, 2011 at 2:13 AM

        Good Seinfeld quote. Classic.

      • Maxa - Feb 14, 2011 at 8:33 AM

        Yeah, okay, he’s still not worth double.

    • dondbaseball - Feb 14, 2011 at 10:55 AM

      I hate to burst lorddarkhelmet’s bubble but by looking at baseball reference’s WAR, Albert is EXACTLY twice as good as Miguel. Yet the proposed contract is only 1.56 times the other. 83.8 WAR over 10 years-8.4 per vs. 33.1 over 8 years-4.1 per. And if you use the current cost of $3.5 mil per 1 WAR, Alberts contract is pretty close to $30 mil per year~ 8.4 x $3.5 = $29.4 per. I am not saying he can keep that type of production up for 10 years but we know understand why he is looking at that type of contract. Given Cabrera’s issues with weight and alcohol, Albert is clearly the better long-term outlook. FYI 60 minutes will running a segment on Albert in month that shows the class act he truly is.

  2. shawon0meter - Feb 13, 2011 at 7:10 PM

    Hey Chicago what do ya say

    • wonkypenguin - Feb 13, 2011 at 8:14 PM

      They’d say, “10 years? We’ll give him 12!”

      • spudchukar - Feb 13, 2011 at 8:35 PM

        Pujols is smart. Pujols knows baseball. Therefore, Pujols will never chose to be a Cub.

      • seattlej - Feb 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM

        Pujols is human. Pujols likes money. Pujols thinks $ = respect. Pujols will sign with whoever respects him the most.

      • spudchukar - Feb 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM

        The equation of humanity and cash may represent your ethics. The notion that anyone can be bought, while popular, still has its critics.

      • billtpa - Feb 14, 2011 at 8:53 AM

        The notion that anyone can be bought? You make the Cubs sound like the mafia or Philip Morris or something. I suspect anyone can be bought by any baseball team, all of which are morally neutral. Except maybe the Yankees.

      • bigharold - Feb 14, 2011 at 10:56 AM

        “You make the Cubs sound like the mafia or Philip Morris or something.”

        Hey go easy. The mafia has killed nearly as many people as PM.

  3. Jeremiah Graves - Feb 13, 2011 at 9:03 PM

    This right here is why the Pirates have been hoarding their cash all these years…

    Pujols signs with Pittsburgh on a 20yr/$500M deal. The Pirates go all WWE villain and rip off their masks to reveal that they’re actually a big league baseball team and not the Bad News Bears and they win 20 World Series in a row.

    The end.

    • bigharold - Feb 14, 2011 at 10:59 AM

      Stephen King ain’t got nothing on you. That’s some outlandishly scary fiction.

  4. mossholder - Feb 13, 2011 at 9:35 PM

    I don’t know why cubs fans want Pujols. I’m a diehard cub fan and I would hope that the cubs organization learned the hard way by signing Soriano at such a ridiuculous contract. Pujols is great and is going to be in the HOF but he will eventually decline and the 300 million dollars owed is going to cripple any organization. I’m also a Packer fan and they have the perfect recipe for a successful team. That is to scout and build the team from within. Spend money on necessary star players and let the rest fill in. It’s not a coincidence that the Twins are always in contention and they spend little to nothing every year. They lost a lot of their star relievers and i’m sure a few no name people will play lights out this year and they will be right where they are every year.

    So as a cubs fan, i’m sick of hearing how much money the cubs are willing to spend on superstar players that are already closer to the end of their primes. Prime example is how much money the Bears spent on Peppers. Sure he did great things, but did they get a championship? Nope. Will they next year or the year after? Nope. Hopefully Castro and Colvin show us why homegrown talent is such a great thing to have.

    • spudchukar - Feb 13, 2011 at 10:01 PM

      Perhaps it is an oversight, but I am sure that many psychologists would recognize that your “cubs”, were never capitalized, while the Packers, Twins and Bears were.

  5. chipsahoy82 - Feb 13, 2011 at 9:51 PM

    I’m a life long Reds fan, so I do not like the cardinals, but Pujols belongs in st louis. Period. Seeing him in another uniform would not be right.

  6. smokehouse56 - Feb 13, 2011 at 11:27 PM

    $300,000,000?? The Cards have problems and he will walk. NO ONE will sign him at those stupid figures. Who the hell does he think he is? He hit .312, hit 42 homers and had 118 RBIs last year. You tell me if he does that for 10 straight years he’s worth that kind of money? The answer is NO. And you know his numbers will start to fall in several years. If the Red Birds pay him anything near that amount they will have nothing to spend for ten years. Yep, that’s the way to build a franchise. He is greedy as hell.

    • uyf1950 - Feb 14, 2011 at 8:39 AM

      You are probably correct that no one will sign him for $300MM for 10 years. But you can be absolutely positive someone (owner/GM) will gladly pay him $30MM per over 8 years. If the Cardinals aren’t willing to get to that number he will in all likelihood be a FA.

      • bigharold - Feb 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM

        That’s right and that GM is Brian Cashman. They don’t call’em Cash Man for nothing.

      • phukyouk - Feb 14, 2011 at 11:28 AM

        Cashman is gone after this season THANK GOD!

    • billtpa - Feb 14, 2011 at 8:57 AM

      He hit .312, hit 42 homers and had 118 RBIs last year. You tell me if he does that for 10 straight years he’s worth that kind of money?

      Your data is woefully incomplete. The batting average and homers tell you little, and the RBIs tell you nothing. If one does everything Pujols has done (.331/.426/.624 with fantastic defense) every year for ten years, then yes, in today’s market, he’s certainly worth $30 million a year as a free agent. Of course, you’re paying for what he’s likely to do, not what he’s already done, but yeah, for as long as you think he’s likely to keep doing what he’s been doing, he’s probably worth that.

  7. virusgvr - Feb 13, 2011 at 11:40 PM

    What does one person need with 300 million? I mean seriously??? I can’t even find a 35k a year job!!! And I am a war veteran, and a college graduate!!! I am just hoping to sign a 1 yr. / 35,000.00 a year deal!

    • spudchukar - Feb 14, 2011 at 1:17 AM

      You are missing your calling as a creative punctuationist.

  8. smokehouse56 - Feb 14, 2011 at 8:44 AM

    punctuationist, I can’t even find that in the online dictionary. Nice word, I like it. lol

    • spudchukar - Feb 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM

      Every word was coined once.

  9. spizzjr - Feb 14, 2011 at 9:08 AM

    He’s a ridiculous pompous ass bottom line your playing a game for a living god forbid you get pain less than twenty MILLION dollars PER YEAR baseball contracts make me feel sick to my stomach that these greedy bastards have let money go to their heads and it makes me sick simply that I’m still a fan of baseball at this point and I’m a Yankee fan too

    • billtpa - Feb 14, 2011 at 9:27 AM

      You know who those greedy bastards are taking money from, right? Other, greedier, richer bastards. If you’re complaining about how much money the players are making, you’re saying that the billionaire owners deserve an even greater share of the profits generated by baseball, vis-a-vis the people who actually play the games, than they already get. Which I suppose you can argue, if you really want to, but I don’t get the outrage over it.

  10. phukyouk - Feb 14, 2011 at 10:42 AM

    Sadly the Yankees WILL make an offer in that neighborhood. ESPECIALLY after the Lee “Debacle”. the yankees will panic and instead of finding pitching they will once again blow their load on a hitter and give him too much money for too many yrs that takes the guy into his AARP yrs. i would bet A-Rods contract on this.

    • bigharold - Feb 14, 2011 at 11:25 AM

      I expect the Cards and Pujols to eventually work it out. But, if he gets as far FA than you’re correct the Yankees will give him an 8-10 year contract at about 30 mil per. But, it won’t be panic it’ll be cold calculated necessity . Yeah, the Yankees lost out on Lee and the major area of concern is and will continue to be SP. But, there isn’t that much available. Not now, nor does much become available next year. I don’t see the Yankees giving 100 million or there abouts to another Burnett type pitcher. Also, it’s not about on field production alone. It’s about star power, drama too. The Yankees have been winning a lot in the 15+ years, games, divisions and WS titles. With all that success comes the danger of complacency within the fan base. The Yankees sell in excess of 4 million tickets a year. If they want to keep doing that you have to give the fans a compelling reason to go. It’s about putting “fannies in the seats” as George Steinbrenner once said. Pujols would do exactly that.

      I think baseball in general, the Cards and Pujols are all better served if he remains with the Cards and I think there is a better then 50% chance of that happening. But, if Pujols gets to FA, the Yankees are still not having any luck acquiring a top of the rotation pitcher then the Yankees will be in the thick of it. And, if, heaven forbid, the Yankees don’t make the playoffs this season they will likely sign him for better or worse.

      • phukyouk - Feb 14, 2011 at 11:45 AM

        do you realize what that means? if they give a 32 yr old a 10 yr contract? do you relize how old the yankees would be? all jokes aside it would be imposible to lower the avg age below 36 at that point. giving this guy anything over a 6 yr contract (and even thats too much) would be downright stupid.

      • bigharold - Feb 14, 2011 at 12:07 PM

        First of all, I’m not advocating this outcome, I’m merely stating that I think this is the way it would turn out. There are two different issues here, Pujols and his contract demands and the Yankees and their need for star players. If a quality SP becomes available either through trade or FA then I expect the Yankees to focus their attention there. If that doesn’t happen, then the Yankees will likely turn their attention to other ways to improve, position players and relief pitching. If the Yankees are in the market and Pujols is available I would expect the Yankees to go that way because as stated it about more than on field production. But, even with the DH, it wouldn’t be prudent to offer him more than 8 years. In fact, the only way I see any chance of a 10 year deal is if the Yankees fail to make the playoffs because I can’t see any team committing that type of money or length other than the Yankees.

        No NL team is giving him a 10 year contract, not happening. AL teams might go 8 years because of the DH option. Still very risky. I’m still pretty confident that the Cards and Pujols work this out but the Cards are going to need to pony up more dough and Pujols is going to have to understand that about 6-7 years is the best he can hope for from the Cards or any NL team because of his age. His agent screwed up, he should have got him a 5 year contract last time out.

  11. The Baseball Idiot - Feb 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM

    Without the fans, it doesn’t matter how much money you have. The game always has been, and always will be, for the fan. Not the owners or the players.

    You lose the fans, you lose everything. Ask the guys in Kansas City, Pittsburgh, Oakland, and Miami.

    Normal people don’t have the concept of what $300 million is. I don’t, you don’t, and the average joe paying for tickets, cable packages, and merchandise doesn’t have a concept.

    So when the players start throwing around the concept of not getting respect for in the form of hundreds of millions of dollars, the average fan isn’t going to buy it. The game, the fans, and Pujols himself will lose more than they ever gain by him demanding that kind of money.

    Don’t any of you remember Alex Rodriguez? He was the greatest thing in the game, a superstar in the making, and everyone raved about him. But he started his downhill slide when he signed the contract with Texas, not with anything that has happened with the Yankees. People stopped revering him, and just treated him like some other player.

    Pujols is never going to spend all the money he’s made so far, and he’s never going to spend $200 million, or $250 million, or $300 million. It’s not possible. At the amount of money, what’s the difference between $210, $235, $267, or $289 million? If someone can explain the concept of that, I’d really like to hear it. That’s not about respect, that’s about greed.

    I’m a Cardinals fan, and a Pujols fan. I’m all for the players making a lot of money. I’d like more also. But when they start talking about respect, I consider that insulting. Just my opinion. Pujols might get the respect he thinks he deserves by getting a lot of money, but he’s going to lose the respect of the fans. Bond did it. Clemens did it. Jeter did it. Rodriguez did it.

    And when you lose the fans, all you ended up losing a lot more than ballgames.

    • bigharold - Feb 14, 2011 at 4:22 PM

      I understand the point you are trying to make about the average fan not really grasping the concept of the money involved. And, on some level I agree but you are not completely grasping the entire situation yourself. We as fans care too much because we see all this tied to the sport we grew up playing and watching. In my case rooting for the Yankees for as long as I can remember, over 40 years.

      As fans we root for the team and the player and that is where our loyalties lay and generally in that order. Owners and player, even great ones, come and go but the team carries on. That is why it bothers us when a “our” team loses and “our” player does poorly. But, because they are “our” player it’s also why we hold it against the player when contract negotiations get messy and public. We generally call the players greed, character and ethics into question but rarely the teams. It’s as if “our” player has no consideration for us the fans that do all the rooting and caring. Frankly, I don’t see it that way. I’ve posted it frequently that what happens on the field and in the club house is baseball, .. the rest is business. And, although it sounds like a cliche it one of the profound truths in sports and baseball. It always has been and always will be.

      I’ve no issue with Pujols asking for whatever he thinks he’s worth. It’s a negotiation and that’s the way it works. The Cards didn’t have a problem under paying him for most of the years he’s worked for them so I guess it’s his turn He’s no more or less greedy now then they were n the past. Besides, we already live in a world where the minimum salary for the worst player on the worst team in baseball is over $400K a year. That is more than 10 times what my daughter gets to teach children how to read and write and it only took her 3 1/2 years to find a steady teaching job. Placing too much emphasis on “enough being enough” and “he can’t spend it all”, goes hand in hand with the average fan’s inability to grasp the context of the amount of money being discussed. It infers a logic that frankly isn’t applicable. I’d just as soon players get “their” share from the owners but in this case it’s sort of the really rich arguing with the obscenely rich.

      You are dead wrong about A-Rod.

      “Don’t any of you remember Alex Rodriguez? He was … a superstar in the making, ..But he started his downhill slide when he signed the contract with Texas,”

      He actually didn’t fade at all.. From the time he signed with the Rangers, 2001 to 2007, the first 7 years of that 10 year contract he averaged BA .303, Hr 47 and 130 RBI with a OBP of .400. If you do that over a 7 year run you are a Superstar.

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