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The Phillies won’t be trading Joe Blanton to the Cardinals

Feb 24, 2011, 8:20 AM EDT

Philadelphia Phillies starting pitcher Joe Blanton smiles during a news conference in Clearwater

Maybe that goes without saying, but given that a great number of Phillies fans half-jokingly — at least I hope it was half-jokingly — proposed a silly Joe Blanton-for-Colby Rasums trade after hearing about Adam Wainwright‘s injury yesterday, it’s probably wise that Ruben Amaro put the kibosh on such nonsense immediately:

Whether the Phils would deal an accomplished pitcher such as Blanton to a league rival remains to be seen. Asked about Blanton on Wednesday, Amaro said, “He’ll be starting for us in the first week of April.”

Silly trade scenarios aside, there are two ways for competing teas to look at the Adam Wainwright injury: (a) as an opportunity to trade a pitcher on very favorable terms to a team in desperate need of one; or (b) as a cold-water-to-the-face moment in which you realize how just one damn thing going wrong could send your own season skidding sideways.

If you’re inclined to think in that latter, risk-averse fashion, you may be less likely to trade away a starting pitcher to a desperate Cardinals team today than you were yesterday. Because there, but for the grace your pitchers’ elbow ligaments, go you.  And won’t you feel dumb if one of your big guns goes down and you don’t have a Joe Blanton-type to help stop the bleeding?

  1. drunkenhooliganism - Feb 24, 2011 at 8:50 AM

    Wow. Joe Blanton for Colby Rasmus? I’d throw in Victorino and pay Blanton’s salary to make it fair. and as a Phillies’ fan, I’d still love it.

    Blanton looks like he’s in the Best Shape of His Life.

    • paperlions - Feb 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM

      That still wouldn’t make such a trade anything approaching fair. Rasmus is much better and younger than Victorino and Blanton is only a bit above replacement level (really not much better than Millwood).

      • paperlions - Feb 24, 2011 at 10:28 AM

        Players like Rasmus are worth a fortune in trade, he’s young, cheap, athletic, talented, and has a great approach at the plate. There is no reason to trade such a player, ever…especially for back of the rotation pitcher and an aging downgrade at the same position. The suggestion is a dumb one.

      • macjacmccoy - Feb 24, 2011 at 10:42 AM

        I wouldnt do it.But still its not dumb when you consider the Cardinals window is gonna slam shut after this year when Pujos leaves. So if they want to win a World series they have to do everything they can to win now. You have a better chance of winning win Blanton, Pujos, and no Rasmus this year, Then Rasmus no Pujos and maybe half a season of Wainwright (if your lucky) next year. And Blanton isnt a bottom of the rotation guy hes a 3rd on most teams, 4th on a few really good teams, and only a 5th on the Phillies, Giants, and Sox.

    • Jonny 5 - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:18 AM

      LOL!!! Maybe the Cards should have you two as trade advisors?? “Yes, we’ll give you Pujols for the entire Phillies team, mmmkay??? Yeah, and you cover the salaries, mmmkay??? That’s about fair right??”

      • drunkenhooliganism - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM

        Jonny- I think Blanton and Vic for Rasmus would be a steal for the Phillies. Rasmus is already better than Victorino and he’s 5 or 6 years younger. And he probably won’t swing at the first pitch in the dirt after the previous batter was walked on four pitches (this may never have happened, it just seems like Victorino would do this two or three times a week). I still love watching Victorino play, he’s just not as good as his reputation.

        Did you know that he’s Hawaiian?

      • drunkenhooliganism - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM

        I’m not saying that the trade is possible. Just saying how ridiculous Blanton for Rasmus is.

      • Jonny 5 - Feb 24, 2011 at 10:06 AM

        No Way man. Not going to happen. The Cards would be silly to deal Rasmus first of all. If anything, any trade moving a player would involve someone making more money, much more money. Enough money to make it easier to sign Albert. Second of all, Victorino is a GG OF that’s needed big time out there with Ibanez and whoever gets used in RF. There is no way they’ll trade the Hawaiian who will need to cover 50% of the OF for Rasmus, it doesn’t make sense for them. They need a great defensive CF. And Blanton probably won’t be traded, and if he is, It will be a good deal for the phills or no deal imo.

        I think the Cards pick up a guy like, let’s say for ha ha’s Chad Durbin then move some guys around and use one of their own to start games. Kinda the best option and least expensive too boot. They still want to sign Albert don’t forget.

  2. Jonny 5 - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:07 AM

    AMEN Reverand!!! I’d keep the big Lug too.
    But, you can never rule anything out with the Ninja. I’ve said “It will never happen” how many times in regards to moves by the Phills, and then what? Bam. Amaro does something that makes everyone say Holy Sh—–!!! What the heck just happened? Lee to Philly, Halladay to Philly, Lee to Seattle, Oswalt to Philly, Lee back to Philly again.

    • Utley's Hair - Feb 24, 2011 at 11:11 AM

      You say you’d keep Big Joe. But is there any way we could get Eddie Wade loaned out to the Cards for a little bit? We might be able to get Holliday and Pujols—with their salaries paid out in advance—for Blanton and that cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee.

      • Jonny 5 - Feb 24, 2011 at 11:26 AM


  3. Brian - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:18 AM

    in Ruben Amaro-speak, “Joe Blanton will pitch for us in April” really means “I’m about to trade him for Albert Pujols.”

    • phillysoulfan - Feb 24, 2011 at 11:06 AM

      You notice he doesn’t say anything about the 2nd week of April :)

  4. mercyflush - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:25 AM

    Rasmus is a lefty anyway. Phils have Domonic Brown and Jonathon Singleton in line to be 2/3 of their outfield for the forseeable future, and they’re both lefties, to go along with Utley and Howard who are also lefties and not going anywhere anytime soon. (Not saying Rasmus won’t be very good, just saying he doesn’t fit the Phils that well).

    At some point the Phillies need a good young right handed bat with some pop… assumng Singleton can replace Ibanez (maybe Francisco starts 2012 in LF and Singleton comes up later in the season or in 2013), then hopefully they can find a righty to replace Polanco or Victorino or Rollins in the next couple years.

    (yes i know Singleton was a first baseman, but they moved him to LF this year and is expected to be fine there. He’s 19 and the 39th ranked prospect per BA. 27th per Keith Law).

  5. PanchoHerreraFanClub - Feb 24, 2011 at 9:46 AM

    Craig, your description of the Cardinals as a “desperate” team doesn’t quite square with reality given that it is still early in spring training. It is about as accurate as the description of the Yankees as underdogs. The Cardinals have a lot of options at this point. Granted none is a good having Wainwright in the rotation, but you have crappy FAs, trades and a farm system to find a fifth starter. You aren’t going to find a number 1 or 2 starter available at this point. Did the Cardinals rotation slip a couple of notches? Sure. Is it a disaster? No.

  6. smokehouse56 - Feb 24, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    If you don’t think losing Wainwright is a disaster you not dealing with reality.

    • PanchoHerreraFanClub - Feb 24, 2011 at 10:50 AM

      doesn’t quite square with reality given that it is still early in spring raining

      A disaster would have been losing Wainwright in July. Organizations lose star players all the time. Good ones handle it well, bad ones become desperate. As an old football coach of mine used to say when looking at a tough schedule that the opponents were either “stumbling blocks or stepping stones”. Who will step up and fill Wainwright’s role?

      In 2001, the Cardinals were worried about having an extra stick in the lineup. A rookie with one year in pro ball started to get some playing time at 3B, with no chance he would make the team. All the experts laughed at the guy. Well, he’s still playing and doing pretty well.

    • The Baseball Idiot - Feb 24, 2011 at 11:25 AM

      The Giants lost Barry Bonds and won a World Series.

      The disaster is in the mind of the victim.

      • Utley's Hair - Feb 24, 2011 at 11:50 AM

        Last time I checked, there were a few years in between there. It wasn’t within the same season. And this is losing your ace for (at least) a year, and then losing one of the best players in the last 50+ (again, at least) years the next. Big difference.

      • The Baseball Idiot - Feb 24, 2011 at 12:15 PM

        That’s okay. Not everyone can get the point.

      • Utley's Hair - Feb 24, 2011 at 12:40 PM

        Then enlighten me. Because there’s also a difference between “lost” and “shed themselves of.”

  7. macjacmccoy - Feb 24, 2011 at 10:31 AM

    Well if say Halladay went down I wouldnt call Lee, Oswalt, and Hamels as my top 3 as bleeding.

  8. ta192 - Feb 24, 2011 at 3:15 PM

    Blanton and Howard for Pujols and a PTBNL

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