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Daisuke Matsuzaka is getting lit up this spring

Mar 10, 2011, 5:00 PM EDT

Daisuke Matsuzaka

Yes, we know he’s in the best shape of his life and yes we know that spring stats aren’t supposed to mean anything, but Daisuke Matsuzaka‘s spring hasn’t been too encouraging.

He got lit up for five runs in 3.2 innings against the Rays today, which brings his ERA on the spring up to 11.42.  What’s more troubling: Buster Olney says that Dice-K was only throwing between 87 and 90 m.p.h..

Does this guy even make the rotation?

  1. pisano - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:08 PM

    Now that’s a real shocker! Dice-k getting lit up.The 101 million dollar bust. He couldn’t picked a more deserving franchise to lay an egg on.

    • phukyouk - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:17 PM

      We still have Iguana which was our counter to Dice-K.

    • marshmallowsnake - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:20 PM

      At least Dice-K stayed on the MLB Roster. And Iggy was an over-reaction to Dice-K.

      • phukyouk - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:28 PM


      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:40 PM

        By not being on the MLB roster, Igawa doesn’t count against the Yanks for luxury tax purposes. That’s why he’ll never see the big leagues anymore

      • marshmallowsnake - Mar 10, 2011 at 6:29 PM

        We all know that luxury tax does not matter when you have a bottomless pit of money. They prove this by keeping him off the roster and showing they can just throw that much money to the side.

    • uyf1950 - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:31 PM

      It really shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone for the past 2 years when he hasn’t been on the disabled list he has for the most part pitched pretty poorly.

      To Pisano my friend. I prefer to say Dice K cost the Red Sox 92,000,000,000 (billion) yen. That’s what his posting fee and contract cost the Red Sox in Japanese currency.

      • pisano - Mar 11, 2011 at 8:13 AM

        uyf1950….. it’s just like you said awhile back if the Yankees were to be as foolish and have signed him they would be the laughing stock of baseball, but if Boston or any other team signed him it seemed to be a good move. Other posters point to the Kei Igawa blunder, but remember while I’m the first to say he stinks he was 40 mil. not 101 mil. I can’t think of another signing that was a bigger waste of money as this one.

      • uyf1950 - Mar 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM

        pisano, my friend. There is no doubt Igawa was a mistake and big mistake. But at least the Yankees didn’t compound that mistake by putting in the rotation like the Sox are doing with Dice K.

      • Rosenthals Speling Instrukter - Mar 11, 2011 at 8:41 AM

        @ pisano

        The Yankees were the laughingstock when they were the first team to lose a 3-0 lead in the playoffs (Which after the 09 win minimized it).

        Signing someone to big money and it not working out (although if Dice-K signed for say 40 mil it would not seem that bad a signing) is just par for the course in MLB.

      • uyf1950 - Mar 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM

        Rosenthals, my friend. You need to get your facts straight. First of all Dice K cost the Red Sox $103,111,111.11 plus potentially another $8,000,000.00 in incentives if he were ever to reach them.
        The $103,111,111.11 is comprised of $51,111,111.11 posting fee and $52,000,000.00 for a 6 year deal.
        I don’t know how you come up with $40,000,000.00 but the Sox don’t even sniff Dice K for that. Red Sox fans my not want to consider the posting fee as part of the deal but the fact remains it cost the Red Sox $103,111,111.11 plus potentially another $8,000,000.00 to have him on their staff for 6 years.
        And like I said previously I seriously doubt the Red Sox would consider that a wise investment regardless of whether or not it’s par for the course in baseball.

      • BC - Mar 11, 2011 at 12:02 PM

        I had to look it up. Dice K cost the Red Sox almost 1.572 trillion Lire.
        That’s why we don’t sign players from the Italian league – too expensive.

    • Jack Marshall - Mar 10, 2011 at 6:05 PM

      Garbage. He had one decent year, one great year, and two injury years. If he wins 15 games this season, the Sox will have had a decent return on their investment. That said, I think Miller or Aceves could knock him out of the rotation, and Wake is still there. I wouldn’t weep.

      • uyf1950 - Mar 10, 2011 at 6:31 PM

        The obvious question is what makes you think Dice K will or even can win 15 games this coming season.
        Let’s assume he stays reasonably healthy in 2011 (which I’m not sure is a given) and pitches in 27 games in 2011. That would give him 100 games pitched in what will be 5 years. Based on the fact that he cost the Red Sox $100MM that comes to $1MM per game. Do you consider that a “decent return on their invenstment”? Because I’d be willing to bet the Red Sox don’t. That’s more then the Red Sox or the Yankees are paying any player on their active roster on a per game basis.

  2. proudlycanadian - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:28 PM

    What ever happened to the much hyped gyro ball that was supposed to be unhittable? It looks as if Wakefield’s job is safe for another season. Matsuzaka should be placed on waivers.

    • marshmallowsnake - Mar 10, 2011 at 6:32 PM

      It always ends up on Lansdowne St. or the Mass Pike…so he hardly throws it anymore.

  3. xmatt0926x - Mar 10, 2011 at 5:31 PM

    Who’s he going to blame this year when he gets blown up? He lost all respect a couple years ago when he showed how soft he really was by blaming the Sox for wasting all the endurance he had built up for himself during his Japan years (something to that effect). meanwhile he had no explanantion for why he looked like he moved into Dunkin Donuts and fed off the menu for 24 hours a day. Im not even a Boston fan but this guy is a punk.

    • marshmallowsnake - Mar 10, 2011 at 6:35 PM

      His whole argument was that the American training was not helping him and that he wanted to train like he did in Japan… apparently, he worked out at all the local pastry shops. I wish he would get cut…I do not know if I can take 2 more seasons of him.

  4. luckywi - Mar 10, 2011 at 6:44 PM

    So, the warnings about the overuse he went through in Japan are true? Throwing 200+ pitches in a game is bad for your arm? Don’t tell Nolan Ryan.

  5. Brian - Mar 10, 2011 at 8:06 PM

    he’s clearly not in the best shape of his life

  6. bloodydamnsox - Mar 11, 2011 at 2:35 AM

    That explains the Dice-K t-shirt I bought at TJMax for 6 bucks! …. Er, if I were to buy it, that is. Hey, it was 6 bucks (no tax).

    • marshmallowsnake - Mar 11, 2011 at 12:02 PM

      6 bucks is a hefty price for a dish rag 😉

  7. Rosenthals Speling Instrukter - Mar 11, 2011 at 8:42 AM

    Is it me or do Japanese relievers fare pretty well where starters not so much?

  8. BC - Mar 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM

    Cool! The more he gets lit up, the more chances we get to see Wakefield. I love that guy.

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