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Red Sox shopping Daisuke Matsuzaka and others?

Mar 13, 2011, 9:51 AM EDT

Daisuke Matsuzaka

The Red Sox may be looking to unload some of their depth at various positions before the start of the 2011 regular season schedule.

According to Gordon Edes of ESPN Boston, the Sawx have let other major league teams know that starters Daisuke Matsuzaka and Tim Wakefield are available via trade and that outfielders Mike Cameron and Darnell McDonald can also be had for the right price.

The Red Sox are looking to add a young catcher in case backup Jason Varitek breaks down and they would also like left-handed relief help in the event that Dennys Reyes doesn’t pan out.

Now it’s all about finding the right trading partner.

Matsuzaka isn’t going to be very attractive to other clubs given the 4.79 ERA that he registered in the second half of the 2010 season and the 11.42 ERA that he’s posted across three Grapefruit League starts this spring. On top of all that, he is owed $20 million over the next two seasons.

Wakefield isn’t going to be easy to move either because of his old age and stated intentions to retire soon, and Cameron and McDonald would only start in the outfield on a handful of non-contending clubs.

The four veterans may intrigue some GMs around the big leagues, but any trade is going to be difficult. Also, Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein has already vehemently denied Edes’ report, labeling it “false.”

  1. scapistron - Mar 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM

    Wakefield ought to be a 10/5 player by now and would probably just retire instead of being traded. It would have been nice if they could have got him past 200 wins.

    • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 11:13 AM

      Through the 2010 season he was a 18/16 guy. In the league 18 years the last 16 with the Red Sox.

      • proudlycanadian - Mar 13, 2011 at 11:23 AM

        In other words he can’t be traded without his consent and he has indicated that he does not want to pitch for any other team.

      • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 11:32 AM

        proudly – this isn’t a knock on Wakefield, but you have to ask yourself why would any team want him the way he pitched last year. He’s older then dirt, can’t get anyone out anymore and from I saw last season his knuckle ball hung out there like a grapefruit. Let him go out with dignity. He’s been a good Red Sox soldier and classy guy for years.

  2. pisano - Mar 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM

    I’ll bet teams are waiting in line to make a deal for Dice-K ! Theo, there’s an old saying : ” you made your bed, now lay in it ” Here’s hoping you’re stuck with him for the duration of that ridiculous contract you signed him to. I can’t think of any team more deserving of his talent.

  3. shadows in bloom - Mar 13, 2011 at 11:39 AM

    yeah dice-k reminds me of a.j. burnett – big bucks for only a slight bang years ago. historically speaking the yanks have been greatly willing to pop in some bucks for our throw aways. he might even be able to make their starting rotation this year!

    • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 12:11 PM

      One Boston throw away that immediately comes to mind is Babe Ruth. As I seem to recall, history tells me that was a pretty good deal for the Yankees. Who was another throw away, Damon? Again as I recall the Yankees won a world series with him on the roster and he had pretty good stats for the 4 years he was with the Yankees. There was Roger Clemens but he came via Toronto and again I believe the Yankees won 2 world series with him on the staff.
      There may be other players that played for the Yankees after the Boston years (that came to the Yankees directly after their Boston years) but I really can’t think of any, and I certainly can’t think of any that cost the Yankees more then they got in performance from them.
      If you can I would be interested in any you could think of that their cost far exceed their value to the team.

      • pisano - Mar 13, 2011 at 12:24 PM

        uyf 1950…. another good move for the Sox back in the day was Danny Cater from the Yanks to Boston for Sparky Lyle.Yeah, the Yanks really got screwed on that one didn’t they shadows in doom! correct me if I’m wrong.

      • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 12:29 PM

        Good point my friend.

      • bloodysock - Mar 13, 2011 at 1:15 PM

        Wade Boggs is another.

        Carl Pavano was drafted by the Red Sox but never played for them.

      • Glenn - Mar 13, 2011 at 2:38 PM

        At one time the Red Sox were the dominant team in baseball. Financial difficulties led to not only their selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees, but also Wally Schang, Everett Scott, Carl Mays, Waite Hoyt, Joe Bush, Herb Pennock, and Sam Jones. Yes, the Yankees bought their championships from the start. To be fair, Tom Yawkey tried to buy pennants later without success.

      • shadows in bloom - Mar 13, 2011 at 3:26 PM

        jose canseco in 2000 since you’re interested but no one said they didn’t get some good players – just that they have been more than willing to jump on people the sox let go. as it is you are arguing that the yankees have been doing well with a bunch of redsox talent on their roster over the years – i am ok with that.

      • jwbiii - Mar 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM

        Glenn, How could you forget Sir Alex Ferguson?

      • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 5:30 PM

        shadows – you really should get your facts straight or at the very least do your research. Canseco played for 3 teams after he left the Red Sox before he signed with the Yankees for only the later part of the 2000 season at virtually no cost. You really were grasping at straws to come up with that one.

  4. Albie Jarvis - Mar 13, 2011 at 12:10 PM

    Don’t see value in trading quality depth. Key Red Sox lesson from last year – injuries happen, need depth to contend. This team has championship aspirations – all resources need to be focused on that. Adding farmhands can come at draft time. For more on Red Sox trade rumors check out

    • marinersnate - Mar 13, 2011 at 1:04 PM


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  5. dirtyharry1971 - Mar 13, 2011 at 1:58 PM

    Yeah good luck trading those guys redsuks, i wouldnt give you a bucket of spit for any of those fools

  6. Jeremiah Graves - Mar 13, 2011 at 3:12 PM

    Cameron is probably the only guy in the bunch that would be of any REAL interest to another team. He can still hit pretty well and plays great defense.

    • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 3:43 PM

      Don’t know about Cameron’s offense. Doesn’t hit much for average any more and he strikes out a lot. I’m not sure the Sox can afford to trade him if only because of the potential for injuries of their outfielders.
      Dice K would get some interest in spite of his performance and health issues the past couple of years. He probably would do better in the NL with no DH and their bigger parks. Although he needs to cut down on the walks he allows. The problem is he has a full no trade clause. So he isn’t going anywhere he doesn’t want to go. What another team would be willing to give up for Dice K is another story.

  7. rapmusicmademedoit - Mar 13, 2011 at 5:05 PM

    The Red Sox should call Pittsburgh, they are always interested in
    any trade that can help them finish in last place, again!

    when you are a Yankee fan you sleep good at night.

  8. rapmusicmademedoit - Mar 13, 2011 at 5:09 PM

    The Red Sox are just trying to get Manny and Damon back.

  9. dfensfelix - Mar 13, 2011 at 5:09 PM

    I think he’d be a great fit in the middle of the Twins’ rotation. They’d instantly be better with Matsuzaka starting behind Pavano and Liriano, with he and Scott Baker settling into the 3rd and 4th spots respectively. Pavano’s been great, is gonna obviously be their #1. With Liriano’s health and apparent laziness when it comes to conditioning, I think Dice or Baker could easily be tapped for the 2 spot should Liriano go down. Should Liriano stay healthy and pitch to his potential, it would be Pavano, Liriano, Matsuzaka, Baker, and Brain Duensing rounding out a VERY strong rotation. The Twins have a surplus in the pitching department, which means they could send Kevin Slowey, Nick Blackburn, or Brian Duensing to the Sawx in any combination with a prospect or 2 (depending on how much Boston thinks Dice is worth).

    • dfensfelix - Mar 14, 2011 at 7:30 AM

      Sorry if that was too long, detailed and correct for you retards.

  10. shadows in bloom - Mar 13, 2011 at 7:03 PM

    uyf1950 – again you seem to be trying to find something in words that isn’t written. who said canseco went straight from sox to yanks? no one. simply stated the sox threw him away. simply stated the yanks picked him up. did the sox throw him away? yes. did the yanks sign him? yes. my facts are straight ufy – you should quit trying to read something into them from your own yankee bias opinion.

    • uyf1950 - Mar 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

      shadow – perhaps you’re right may be I am reading to much in your posts but if that is indeed the case it’s because I expect posters to post intelligent thought provoking comments. May be the problem with your posts is they make very little sense and you keep trying to justify them with additional posts that make little to no sense. Regardless I’m finished discussing this I’ve made my point.

      • pisano - Mar 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM

        uyf1950… again my friend you hit the nail on the head. You are far too sensible for shadows in gloom to comprehend.

  11. stairwayto7 - Mar 13, 2011 at 10:10 PM

    After that horrible pitchign performance against thePirates today the choke sox need pitching real bad!

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  13. BC - Mar 14, 2011 at 10:37 AM

    Unloading an outfielder makes sense. But the pitching? Dice-K is untradeable, and Wakefield is 143 years old. I’d especially hang onto Wakefield. You could do worse with your 5th starter, and provided his back is healthy, the guy will eat innings.

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