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	<title>Comments on: Johan Santana: whoever says I&#8217;m not going to pitch this year &#8220;is lying&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/14/johan-santana-whovever-says-im-not-going-to-pitch-this-year-is-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-118613</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow your grasping at straws Chris.  Par for the course.

Is literally everything an issue of semantics for you?  No, don&#039;t bother to answer that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow your grasping at straws Chris.  Par for the course.</p>
<p>Is literally everything an issue of semantics for you?  No, don&#8217;t bother to answer that.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To set the record straight in terms of Santana ... this is what he said in a 2-17-11 radio interview: 

&lt;i&gt;“There’s not a timeframe here on when I’m gonna come back … we’ll see how as the ST goes and how all the rehab goes how well I’ll react to it  ...  &lt;b&gt;If I don’t pitch this year, I don’t think it will be a setback&lt;/b&gt;  …. They told me it’s going to take a lot of time … It’s going to take a long time, so I am aware of that … but at the same time they told me that if everything was successful, if everything goes right, if the rehab goes right then I shouldn’t have any problem coming back this year… my mindset is to come back this year and to help this team.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

I feel the original post unfairly set up Santana to be called &quot;a liar&quot; down the road if he didn&#039;t come back this year. He has never discounted that possibility.

http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dW/dV/dD/dX/WVDX_3.MP3?authtok=5561403219116481641_A3NZXSCVF4a7t1x1jLLgbRUh6g]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To set the record straight in terms of Santana &#8230; this is what he said in a 2-17-11 radio interview: </p>
<p><i>“There’s not a timeframe here on when I’m gonna come back … we’ll see how as the ST goes and how all the rehab goes how well I’ll react to it  &#8230;  <b>If I don’t pitch this year, I don’t think it will be a setback</b>  …. They told me it’s going to take a lot of time … It’s going to take a long time, so I am aware of that … but at the same time they told me that if everything was successful, if everything goes right, if the rehab goes right then I shouldn’t have any problem coming back this year… my mindset is to come back this year and to help this team.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>I feel the original post unfairly set up Santana to be called &#8220;a liar&#8221; down the road if he didn&#8217;t come back this year. He has never discounted that possibility.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dW/dV/dD/dX/WVDX_3.MP3?authtok=5561403219116481641_A3NZXSCVF4a7t1x1jLLgbRUh6g" rel="nofollow">http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dW/dV/dD/dX/WVDX_3.MP3?authtok=5561403219116481641_A3NZXSCVF4a7t1x1jLLgbRUh6g</a></p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way, just to set the record straight ... as I don&#039;t want someone to misrepresent my opinion later down the road ... I personally dont&#039; think Santana will be back this year. If he does come back this season, the likeliest scenario is just a few starts sometime in September.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, just to set the record straight &#8230; as I don&#8217;t want someone to misrepresent my opinion later down the road &#8230; I personally dont&#8217; think Santana will be back this year. If he does come back this season, the likeliest scenario is just a few starts sometime in September.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Of course no one can predict setbacks.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

But that is precisely what Popper/Klapisch did. They said it was imminent.  Not in May or July or August. But right now. It is the setback (and scrapping of the rehab program) that Santana is calling a lie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Of course no one can predict setbacks.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>But that is precisely what Popper/Klapisch did. They said it was imminent.  Not in May or July or August. But right now. It is the setback (and scrapping of the rehab program) that Santana is calling a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right, Craig, what Adam wrote was just a plan. It was widely reported at the time that that was just a plan.  And, as the quote from Warthen shows, they know there are no guarantees. 

No one has ever ruled out the possibility in any way that Johan may not be back in a real game this year. 

As for the Bergen Record, they claim outright that there is an issue right now with his rehab schedule and that it may be scrapped this week. If in fact Santana continues to rehab through March, then the Bergen Record &lt;b&gt;will have been proven wrong&lt;/b&gt; ... no matter what happens in April, May or much later down the road.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Craig, what Adam wrote was just a plan. It was widely reported at the time that that was just a plan.  And, as the quote from Warthen shows, they know there are no guarantees. </p>
<p>No one has ever ruled out the possibility in any way that Johan may not be back in a real game this year. </p>
<p>As for the Bergen Record, they claim outright that there is an issue right now with his rehab schedule and that it may be scrapped this week. If in fact Santana continues to rehab through March, then the Bergen Record <b>will have been proven wrong</b> &#8230; no matter what happens in April, May or much later down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Calcaterra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Calcaterra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course no one can predict setbacks. This isn&#039;t a matter of clairvoyance.  But it&#039;s not accurate to say that there isn&#039;t a timetable that the team itself has acknowledged that has him pitching in 2011:

http://twitter.com/AdamRubinESPN/status/38295693311344640#

Santana says they&#039;re still on schedule, which is cool.  The Bergan Record reports that some Mets employee says otherwise.  Which is also cool.  We don&#039;t know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course no one can predict setbacks. This isn&#8217;t a matter of clairvoyance.  But it&#8217;s not accurate to say that there isn&#8217;t a timetable that the team itself has acknowledged that has him pitching in 2011:</p>
<blockquote class='twitter-tweet'><p>Alderson on Santana: 3 month flat ground. Early May on mound. Back late June or July.&mdash; <br />Adam Rubin (@AdamRubinESPN) <a href='http://twitter.com/#!/AdamRubinESPN/status/38295693311344640' data-datetime='2011-02-17T17:56:19+00:00'>February 17, 2011</a></p></blockquote>
<p>#</p>
<p>Santana says they&#8217;re still on schedule, which is cool.  The Bergan Record reports that some Mets employee says otherwise.  Which is also cool.  We don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/14/johan-santana-whovever-says-im-not-going-to-pitch-this-year-is-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-118519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;“There’s &lt;b&gt;no guaranteed time frame &lt;/b&gt;on any of this,” Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen said, “especially as unfamiliar as this is for all of us. We know the guy.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Warthen/Alderson/Santana have been saying this essentially since last fall when he was first operated on. 

The rehab schedule is just a plan.  And all they are saying now is that the plan is going as originally set out so far and that there are no major setbacks as indicated by the original Popper/Klapisch story. The idea that there is a setback is what they are calling a lie. 

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/baseball/mets/031411_Johan_Santana_insists_his_rehab_is_still_on_schedule.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;“There’s <b>no guaranteed time frame </b>on any of this,” Mets pitching coach Dan Warthen said, “especially as unfamiliar as this is for all of us. We know the guy.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Warthen/Alderson/Santana have been saying this essentially since last fall when he was first operated on. </p>
<p>The rehab schedule is just a plan.  And all they are saying now is that the plan is going as originally set out so far and that there are no major setbacks as indicated by the original Popper/Klapisch story. The idea that there is a setback is what they are calling a lie. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/baseball/mets/031411_Johan_Santana_insists_his_rehab_is_still_on_schedule.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pro_sports/baseball/mets/031411_Johan_Santana_insists_his_rehab_is_still_on_schedule.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/14/johan-santana-whovever-says-im-not-going-to-pitch-this-year-is-lying/comment-page-1/#comment-118515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, that&#039;s just a plan as specifically prescribed by the doctors at the Hospital for Special Surgery as being reasonable, possible, and recommended. 

Santana himself has said words to the effect that he can&#039;t say for sure -- with guarantees -- when he will be back and that his health and future are the most important things (so he won&#039;t rush back).  And Alderson/Warthen have not said anything different either. 

There is a schedule, but no one knows for sure if it will go according to plan, and no one is claiming it will. They are only claiming that so far, there are no setbacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s just a plan as specifically prescribed by the doctors at the Hospital for Special Surgery as being reasonable, possible, and recommended. </p>
<p>Santana himself has said words to the effect that he can&#8217;t say for sure &#8212; with guarantees &#8212; when he will be back and that his health and future are the most important things (so he won&#8217;t rush back).  And Alderson/Warthen have not said anything different either. </p>
<p>There is a schedule, but no one knows for sure if it will go according to plan, and no one is claiming it will. They are only claiming that so far, there are no setbacks.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IOW, if there is a setback a month from now or if for some other reason Santana doesn&#039;t get back into a real game this year, then that doesn&#039;t mean the Bergen Record story isn&#039;t wrong and the source Popper and Klapisch used isn&#039;t  wrong or lying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IOW, if there is a setback a month from now or if for some other reason Santana doesn&#8217;t get back into a real game this year, then that doesn&#8217;t mean the Bergen Record story isn&#8217;t wrong and the source Popper and Klapisch used isn&#8217;t  wrong or lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Calcaterra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Craig Calcaterra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His rehab schedule has been widely reported to have him pitching in 2011. If he&#039;s saying he&#039;s on the rehab schedule, he is saying he is going to pitch in 2011.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His rehab schedule has been widely reported to have him pitching in 2011. If he&#8217;s saying he&#8217;s on the rehab schedule, he is saying he is going to pitch in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Johan Santana: whovever says I’m not going to pitch this year “is lying”&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Craig, I don&#039;t know if it was intentional or not, but that&#039;s not accurate. Santana and Warthen are taking issue with the Bergen Record&#039;s claims that his rehab schedule is going badly and that it might be derailed this week. 

Johan Santana is NOT claiming he will  pitch in a major league game this year. Just that there are no setbacks in the rehab schedule so far.  That&#039;s quite a different matter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Johan Santana: whovever says I’m not going to pitch this year “is lying”&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Craig, I don&#8217;t know if it was intentional or not, but that&#8217;s not accurate. Santana and Warthen are taking issue with the Bergen Record&#8217;s claims that his rehab schedule is going badly and that it might be derailed this week. </p>
<p>Johan Santana is NOT claiming he will  pitch in a major league game this year. Just that there are no setbacks in the rehab schedule so far.  That&#8217;s quite a different matter.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisny3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisny3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Popper has usually had a good record for accuracy but Klapisch is another matter. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s any surprise that Klapisch shares the byline on this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Popper has usually had a good record for accuracy but Klapisch is another matter. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s any surprise that Klapisch shares the byline on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 14:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still wish Bonilla had knocked Klapisch 10 feet into the ground when he had a chance.  The world would be a better place for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still wish Bonilla had knocked Klapisch 10 feet into the ground when he had a chance.  The world would be a better place for it.</p>
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		<title>By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Santana&#039;s left arm is an a glass jar of formaldehyde in the concourse of Citifield so we can all watch it&#039;s progress.  Now that the Mets have taken the concept of transparency to the next level thusly, there should be no varying opinions on the subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santana&#8217;s left arm is an a glass jar of formaldehyde in the concourse of Citifield so we can all watch it&#8217;s progress.  Now that the Mets have taken the concept of transparency to the next level thusly, there should be no varying opinions on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesfanlen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesfanlen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[C&#039;mon, proudly, don&#039;t go all chrisny3 on us this early on a Monday.As a subscriber to the offending daily, I find that puppies take well to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon, proudly, don&#8217;t go all chrisny3 on us this early on a Monday.As a subscriber to the offending daily, I find that puppies take well to it.</p>
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		<title>By: proudlycanadian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[proudlycanadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I have difficulty with stories from the Bergen Record. In the past I have seen this paper make false claims about the Blue Jays. Why should this paper from New Jersey be taken seriously when it has a past record of false reports?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I have difficulty with stories from the Bergen Record. In the past I have seen this paper make false claims about the Blue Jays. Why should this paper from New Jersey be taken seriously when it has a past record of false reports?</p>
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