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The Phillies’ injuries mount: Placido Polanco tweaks his elbow

Mar 16, 2011, 9:12 AM EDT

Placido Polanco on bases

Phillies’ third baseman Placido Polanco injured his left elbow yesterday, hyperextending it during a swing.  This is the same elbow on which he had surgery back in November.  He says it’s not serious, though, and it’s suspected that he’ll only miss a few days.

I think most people agree that injuries are the only thing that can derail this team, so serious or not, it’s not fabulous that Polanco joins Chase Utley, Domonic Brown and Brad Lidge on the Phillies injury list.  Still, as long as none of the starters show up there, it’s not a real cause for concern either.

  1. larryhockett - Mar 16, 2011 at 9:55 AM

    The 2010 Phillies lost Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Placido Polanco, Shane Victorino, Brad Lidge and Ryan Madson (am I missing anyone?) and still won 97 games.

    • macjacmccoy - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM

      Your missing Ruiz, Moyer, Romero, Durbin, Gload, and Baez. Theres probably even a couple more guys that went on the DL last year for the Phillies that I just cant think of right now.

      So whats that ? The entire infield including there catcher, the entire bullpen except for Contreras, there center fielder, there top pinch hitter, and there 4th starter. And they still got 97 wins, But were suppose to be worried about a couple of sore arms a sore knee and a useless bone being removed from a platoon players hand? As the great OchoCinco would say “Child Please”.

      • Utley's Hair - Mar 16, 2011 at 12:31 PM

        I believe the only starters not to end up on the DL were JDub and Rauuuuuulllll.

    • djmarkis - Mar 16, 2011 at 11:11 AM

      DL list includes:

      1. Brad Lidge – 3/26 & 5/10
      2. JC Romero – 3/26
      3. Joe Blanton – 3/26
      4. Jimmy Rollins – 4/13 & 5/22
      5. JA Happ – 4/16
      6. Ryan Madson – 4/29
      7. Brian Schneider – 5/9
      8. Antonio Bastardo – 6/16
      9. Carlos Ruiz – 6/19
      10. Chad Durbin – 6/24
      11. Placido Polanco – 6/26
      12. Chase Utley – 6/29
      13. Jamie Moyer – 7/21
      14. Shane Victorino – 7/28
      15. Ryan Howard – 8/2
      16. Ross Gloss – 8/19
      17. Danys Baez – 8/25
      18. Scott Mathieson – 9/6

    • chrisny3 - Mar 16, 2011 at 1:14 PM

      The 2010 Phillies didn’t lose any of them for any extended period of time except for Utley and Rollins. And still, Utley was healthy enough to play for roughly 2/3’s of the season. I’d like to see the Phillies compete when they have a real string of serious injuries similar to the Red Sox of 2011 or the Mets of 2009. I guarantee they won’t make the playoffs if that happens.

      • Utley's Hair - Mar 16, 2011 at 2:45 PM

        There’s a lot to be said about consistency and team chemistry, which is tough to come by if the team isn’t together.

    • rapmusicmademedoit - Mar 16, 2011 at 6:21 PM

      but it’s not 2010, it’s 2011………………….

      that pitching staff better win a lot of 1-0 games…………….

      I hope butter roll breaks his ankle, both of them……….

  2. Chris Fiorentino - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:05 AM

    “Still, as long as none of the starters show up there, it’s not a real cause for concern either.”

    I don’t know Craig. I mean, if you read the comments from some of the people on this board, you would think the Phillies are dead this year. I mean, they scored 3 or less runs in 77 games last year, and only managed to win 97 games…which was the most in the Major Leagues by the way.

    Also, barring injury, they will get 50 starts from Cliff Lee and Roy Oswalt instead of Jamie Moyer and Kyle Kendrick, but they lost Jayson Werth so that won’t really matter.

    Plus, don’t forget that they are all one whole year older so a guy like Jimmy Rollins, who already missed 74 games last year, can’t be depended upon to play in more than 50 or 60 at the most. Polanco missed 30 games last year, but because of that “whole year older” thing, you can’t really expect more than 100 games out of him. Utley played in 115 games last year, but because of his knee and the fact that he is a “whole year older”, he’ll be lucky to play 100 this year. Ibanez miraculously played in 155 games last year as an old man, so with him being a “whole year older”, I’ll be shocked if he plays in 120. Ruiz missed 41 games, so being a “whole year older”, he’ll be lucky to see triple-digits himself.

    Now to that old, decrepit pitching staff full of guys a “whole year older”. Poor 33 year old Doc and 26 year old Cole started 33 games last year, but being a “whole year older” I doubt they will be able to scratch out 30 starts. 33 year old Oswalt started 32 games last year, between the Astros and the Phillies, but being a “whole year older” and having that “injury history” that has only allowed him to start 30 or more games the last 7 years, I doubt he will be able to start more than 25. Then there’s 32 year old Cliff Lee…”injury prone” Cliff Lee…who only started 28 games last year between the Rangers and the Mariners. Who has started 31 or more games in 6 of 8 years. He’ll a a “whole year older” too.

    Oh these poor Phillies, who won the most games in baseball last year. Oh woe is them.

    disclaimer: before the nitwit Giants fans point out that the Phillies did not win, or even get to, the World Series, I am not claiming the Phillies will win the World Series. I am merely pointing out the lunacy of saying the Phillies are going to struggle at all this season because they don’t have Jayson Werth and they are a “whole year older”. They will win the NL Least by 10 games without breaking a sweat.

    • seeingwhatsticks - Mar 16, 2011 at 1:02 PM

      Wonder what nitwit Giants fan would dare suggest the Giants might be a better team than the Phillies. That’d just be crazy talk. But by all means, tell us some stories from the “97 regular season wins” parade. I hear it was pure bedlam.

      FACT: The Phillies won 97 games but lost 4 of the 6 most important games of the season when facing a high level of competition..
      FACT: People in general, and athletes in particular, do not get healthier as they get older.

      I’ve never said any of the Philly starters had injury histories but plenty of players that didn’t experience injury problems in their 20’s and early 30’s start to experience decreased performance and injury problems as they head into their mid to late 30’s. Just look at Pedro Martinez, who had no injury history and was one of the most dominant pitchers of all time until he suddenly wasn’t. In other words, the fact that someone hasn’t experienced any injuries doesn’t mean they won’t experience any injuries or face any age related decline. It doesn’t have to be a catastrophic season ending type of injury either; a lot of players find it harder to recover from some of the smaller, nagging injuries, like muscle strains or even just fatigue, than it was when they were younger. I’m hardly the first person to suggest that older players face a higher risk of injury than younger players do. It’s certainly possible all 4 starters make all of their scheduled starts but as years go by perfect health, especially among pitchers, is not the most likely outcome.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Mar 16, 2011 at 1:17 PM

        Geeze…I put in a disclaimer, and you still couldn’t resist from bringing the Giants into the conversation. Please read the below disclaimer. I hope it is good enough for you. My post only states, in summary, that while the Phillies struggled to score more than 3 runs in 77 games, they still won 97 games during the regular season. While they trotted Kyle Kendrick out there every 5th day, they still won 97 days. While Jamie Moyer pitched half the season for them they still won 97 games. Yes, they are a whole year older, but none of their pitchers are “mid-30’s” unless 34 now qualifies as “mid-30’s”? Oswalt, Lee and Halladay will be 33 when the season begins. Cole will be 27. That is not all that old of a rotation to me. There’s nobody with a history of injuries on that staff. To say they will get hurt because they are getting older is ludicrous. To say the Phillies will struggle because they are a year older is stupid. To once again make a single point of comparison to the Giants with what I have said is simply dumb.

        DISCLAIMER: The 2010 San Francisco Giants are the greatest team ever assembled in the history of Major League Baseball. There is no debate and no argument to that statement and to do so would be detrimental to the game, as well as to that special group of 25 men who gave it everything they had to bring the World Series championship to the San Francisco. To their fans, to the team, to the citizens of San Francisco, I salute you. You are the greatest.

      • xmatt0926x - Mar 16, 2011 at 6:14 PM

        Chris, welcome to “seeingwhatsticks” world. If there is a more bitter fan of a championship winning team I’d like to be introduced to him. The mere mention of any of the other teams in MLB seems to send this man into a frenzy. And don’t dare say that the Giants just had a good run in the playoffs. Its just not true. They are in fact this generations ’27 Yankees pure and simple. Best hitting team ever and best pitching staff ever to grace the field.

    • rapmusicmademedoit - Mar 16, 2011 at 6:25 PM

      dude, who is going to read all of thisespecially when they don’t know who you are………………

      send a copy of this to Ross Gellar, he will read this with Rachel Greens letter …………

    • seeingwhatsticks - Mar 16, 2011 at 7:19 PM

      How is it at all controversial or even debatable to suggest that older players are more likely to face injury or decline than younger players? How is that homerism or being a sore winner?

  3. macjacmccoy - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:24 AM

    They could even lose a starter and still have a top 5 rotation. So even that wouldn’t be devastating.

  4. mercyflush - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:24 AM

    i’m a phillies diehard and i’m really only worried about Utley. They can get around Lidge, Polanco doesnt seem serious, Brown’s injury will be a blessing in disguise because he’ll start at AAA and get his groove back.

    Utley needs to be playing healthy by June. With him the Phils can still be a top3 NL lineup. Without him they are suddenly very average.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM

      They really only need Utley for the playoffs. I would love to see him get surgery now, rehab for the next 5 months, then come back in September and get in shape for the playoffs. The Phillies could win this weak NL Least with their AAA lineup behind this staff.

      • mercyflush - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:30 AM

        i think you’re selling the Braves short. they could snatch the division away, given the right circumstances.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Mar 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM

        I disagree about the Braves. They had a miracle year last year for their departing skipper, Bobby Cox. This year, they have no Wagner and no Infante. Tim Hudson, who had Tommy John surgery and turns 36 this year, is more of a injury risk than anyone on the Phillies staff. They will be lucky to win 85 games this year and the easiest money I made while in Vegas was the Under 88 wins bet I placed on the Atlanta Braves.

        Unless by the right circumstances you mean that Lee, Oswalt, and Halladay miss 20 starts a piece. Then, maybe, the Braves have a chance to compete with the Phillies for the division. Otherwise, they have no shot.

  5. Jonny 5 - Mar 16, 2011 at 11:56 AM

    Hubris! In Reverse! This is getting old. All this Hubris in reverse going on here. Craig, how could you?

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