Comments on: Curt Schilling tweets, calls Manny Ramirez a cheater

By: chortlz

chortlz — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:56:04 +0000

I loved Curt on my team but I also recognized that he will always be a loose cannon.

In 1996, Brady Anderson, a 32-year-old, career .250-hitter, with 72 home runs to his name, hit 50 in one season. Steroids? Oh yeah! He is the ultimate steroids aberration.

By: sjhusak

sjhusak — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:18:04 +0000

Let’s not forget there are plenty of admitted cheaters in baseball’s HOF. First to come to mind is Gaylord Perry. he even pretended to throw spitters at times when he wasn’t just to get in a hitter’s head.

For what it’s worth, how can any player that was not caught using steroids after 2003 be kept out of the HOF? How many guys in there today took greenies? Isn’t it a medical enhancement to get Lasik when it wasn’t available to players of earlier times? Should we still count a pitcher’s victories after Tommy John surgery when so many great pitchers never achieved a large enough body of work in the past because they didn’t have such surgery available? It goes beyond simply “cheating”, because if it isn’t against the rules of the game at the time it was done, it wasn’t cheating?

Was it against laws outside of baseball? Should that be the determining factor? In that case what about innocence until proven guilty in a court of law? OK, isn’t assault with a deadly weapon also illegal? So throwing at a batter to move him off the plate should also mean a player cannot enter the HOF?

By: sjhusak

sjhusak — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:06:21 +0000

yahmule, you are wrong about the dome. It was in his contract for the dome to be closed when he pitched because his wife is a skin cancer survivor and he wanted her to be able to attend the games when he pitch…yuck, I cannot believe I am defending the jerk…clearly on the list of the all time worst teammates!

By: trevorb06

trevorb06 — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:40:49 +0000

‘Gonzalez never hit more than 15 homers in a season until age 30. At 33, he busted out with 57 homers, a total he never approached in any other season.’

So Matthew based on this you much also think it’s suspicious that Bautista hit all them dingers last season. It’s people like you that keep guys like Bagwell out of the HOF. Suspicious without proof certainly shouldn’t hold as much weight as it does.

By: jamie54

jamie54 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 23:07:40 +0000

Of course he was talking about ADRIAN Gonzalez. Not hard to figure out since Pujols is a current player, rightie, he went with current player, lefty, Gonzalez. DUHHHHHHH. Dummies.

By: wilcymoore

wilcymoore — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:46:01 +0000

You have to wonder if Schilling realizes that 2 of the relief pitchers with whom he shares championship rings were “cheaters,” one known and outed and one unknown simply because of timing and luck. There is sufficient “anecdotal or cicumstancial” evidence to strongly suggest that Schilling’s closer, Keith Foulke, in 2004 was a “cheater” and that his teammate in 2007, Eric Gagne. In the case of the former, he was “likely” using at the time while the latter had stopped based on what had happened in terms of testing and sanctions. By mentioning Manny, Schilling perhaps does not realize that he is in fact tainting his team’s first championship in 86 years and it quite likely that Ramirez would be joined by a number of other players on his team as well as others who tested positive in 2003 and whose names are yet to be “leaked.”

By: PanchoHerreraFanClub

PanchoHerreraFanClub — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 22:30:16 +0000

Say what you want, but all that juicing that Schilling did helped to rot his brain.

By: schmedley69

schmedley69 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:13:07 +0000

Ed Wade had a great quote about Schilling: “Every 5th day he’s our horse, and every other day he’s our horse’s a$$.”

By: schlom

schlom — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:47:35 +0000

I think he has to be talking about Adrian Gonzalez there. No way could he be talking about Luis Gonzalez. I’m surprised that people are saying this is a particularly controversial statement as the first part (about the steroids users) is certainly true – Manny and Barry used steroids and were the best RH and LH hitters.

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:37:48 +0000

Roger Maris hit 61 HR in 61 and never hit more than 39 in any other year.
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George Foster hit 52 and 40 in 77 and 78, and never hit more than 30 in any other year.
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They are called outliers and they are indicative of chance, not of cheating….unless you really are dumb enough to think that Gonzalez decided to cheat one year and then decided it wasn’t fun hitting 50+ HRs and he stopped.

By: yahmule

yahmule — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:21:49 +0000

When he was in Arizona, he wanted to avoid pitching against divisional rivals in spring training games so they wouldn’t get a look at him before their regular season encounters. Obviously, Curt didn’t care if the lesser pitchers on the staff were well scouted. What a great attitude from the guy who is supposed to be the ace of the staff. He also wanted to pitch with the dome closed, even on nice days because he thought the ball carried better when it was open. Diamondbacks management just ignored him.

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:14:42 +0000

He’s a right-wing dummy with a big mouth. Politics awaits, and the Tea Party is hiring.

By: schmedley69

schmedley69 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:01:53 +0000

I remember seeing an interview with Gonzo right after Schilling signed with Boston, and they asked him if the D-Backs would miss Schilling, and he said “we’ll miss him on the day he pitches.” I get the feeling that Schilling was never too popular with his teammates.

By: stairwayto7

stairwayto7 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 15:01:59 +0000

Gonzo non cheater? The guy hit 54 hrs in 01 and never hit more than 30 in any pther year! ROIS USER BIG TIME!

By: paperlions

paperlions — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:05:08 +0000

I don’t think it was that, exactly…..it was more like he didn’t let the facts get in the way of his own reality, which he was all too willing to share with you.

By: pisano

pisano — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 04:28:19 +0000

It’s no wonder all his teammates hated him.He’s like the kid in class that snitched on everyone in order to kiss the teachers ass.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 04:13:51 +0000

So…does tweeting ease the need for a twit who loves the sound of his own voice?

And bloodysock, he threw Mitchypoo under whatevr bus, plane, train or automobile that he could find. Granted, it may have been warranted at times, but a lot of times Schilling was quite often someone you had to endure in the clubhouse. He was very good, but he was much better in his own mind.

By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo

sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 03:20:00 +0000

I think he means Alex Gonzalez. They were teammates in Boston, right?

If I ever understand what Schilling is talking about, it means my brain is functioning like his. In that case, please shoot me in the head.

Not for nothing, Schilling pitched awfully well when he was into the age where a player could use a little help. I of course don’t have any evidence he used, but given his teammates behavior, I would not be even mildly surprised either.

By: xmatt0926x

xmatt0926x — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 03:01:16 +0000

Ol’ red light Schilling is back at it again. You’ll never hear a name that gets so many eye rolls from ex-teammates than Curt Schilling. Loved him when he pitched for my team but it was easy to see over the years why his teammates couldn’t stand him. Ex-Phils GM Ed Wade said it best. “He’s a horse when he’s on the mound and a horses ass every other day” . He’s just a total attention whore and we will be hearing from him until the day he dies.

By: jasonforb

jasonforb — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:26:01 +0000

Scott Williamson?

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:21:08 +0000

Why is it safe to assume he’s talking about Luis, not Adrian? He says “best modern day,” not “best while I pitched.”

By: seeingwhatsticks

seeingwhatsticks — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:03:30 +0000

So when does Schilling give his rings back?

By: grapes911

grapes911 — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:52:46 +0000

He used to throw Mitch Williams under the bus daily. Well, at least once every five days anyway.

By: bloodysock

bloodysock — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:20:14 +0000

As boisterous and as much as a perceived (or not) blow hard he was during his playing days, he was never one to throw a player or teammate under the bus, though his strong dislike for Bonds was well known. I’m surprised he’s taken to this platform at this time to be critical of several former teammates and more suprised he thinks Luis was clean, especially considering he hit his 57 in the same season Bonds hit his 73.