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	<title>Comments on: Video: Fan beaten by police, tazed at Pirates-Rockies game on Saturday night</title>
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		<title>By: bigd9484</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[a quick search engine check will give you plenty of sources for the psychological problems that cops have when getting into enforcement in the first place.  Not to say the whole thing is corrupt, or there aren&#039;t good cops out there, but they usually don&#039;t have videos like this.  If this guy was so dangerous, a good cop would have restrained him at his seat, and escorted him out that way.  The guy arm-barred some dude who was unnecessarily getting in his way to be a punk (&lt;i&gt;HIS&lt;/i&gt; job is to make sure he keeps walking toward the exit, he stopped momentarily to give a high-five, nothing to get in his face about)  Now, its obvious the guy was acting like an a-hole, no defending that, and he by all means looks like the kind of guy I wish would get escorted out of the ball park more often, just in the proper way.  When he stopped and did not defend himself against the police in any way, that should have been a clue to stop and ask him to put his hands behind his back.  Instead, he noticed he had backup, and proceeded to smack the snot out of the guy, now the guy has a case for a lawsuit, and the cop(s) have their jobs in question, can&#039;t say that&#039;s a bad thing.  Do your job the right way, and things like this won&#039;t happen.  OR, don&#039;t act like a jerk in a public arena, either way, both parties way outta line..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a quick search engine check will give you plenty of sources for the psychological problems that cops have when getting into enforcement in the first place.  Not to say the whole thing is corrupt, or there aren&#8217;t good cops out there, but they usually don&#8217;t have videos like this.  If this guy was so dangerous, a good cop would have restrained him at his seat, and escorted him out that way.  The guy arm-barred some dude who was unnecessarily getting in his way to be a punk (<i>HIS</i> job is to make sure he keeps walking toward the exit, he stopped momentarily to give a high-five, nothing to get in his face about)  Now, its obvious the guy was acting like an a-hole, no defending that, and he by all means looks like the kind of guy I wish would get escorted out of the ball park more often, just in the proper way.  When he stopped and did not defend himself against the police in any way, that should have been a clue to stop and ask him to put his hands behind his back.  Instead, he noticed he had backup, and proceeded to smack the snot out of the guy, now the guy has a case for a lawsuit, and the cop(s) have their jobs in question, can&#8217;t say that&#8217;s a bad thing.  Do your job the right way, and things like this won&#8217;t happen.  OR, don&#8217;t act like a jerk in a public arena, either way, both parties way outta line..</p>
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		<title>By: bigd9484</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigd9484]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 16:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=3&amp;ved=0CCYQFjAC&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FUnderstanding-Police-Work-Psychological-Issues%2Fdp%2F0814796702&amp;rct=j&amp;q=police%20with%20psychological%20issues&amp;ei=8M6lTe_pEqfy0gG2gpiWBg&amp;usg=AFQjCNHx5WnB3oWDO6TBxZEKxS9TBAh0zA&amp;sig2=qNUR4EFZnRG-FJaajkBlKQ&amp;cad=rja

Book on police psych issues.  While the frank may have posted it in a non-pc way.  A good number of people who become police officers have issues that lead them to abuse their power.  IE: in this case, the USA dude was on his way out of the park, arm-barred someone (I wont even call it a shove, it wasn&#039;t anything crazy) then faced the tazer like a man, which made this cop feel the need to beat him while he was standing there not resisting.  If the cop was better at his job, and this guy was such a threat, he should have been restrained at his seat, and escorted to the parking lot, then fined or whatever, and released.  Because the cop handled this so stupidly, the guy will probably be able to sue, and this guy could and should lose his job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;cd=3&#038;ved=0CCYQFjAC&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FUnderstanding-Police-Work-Psychological-Issues%2Fdp%2F0814796702&#038;rct=j&#038;q=police%20with%20psychological%20issues&#038;ei=8M6lTe_pEqfy0gG2gpiWBg&#038;usg=AFQjCNHx5WnB3oWDO6TBxZEKxS9TBAh0zA&#038;sig2=qNUR4EFZnRG-FJaajkBlKQ&#038;cad=rja" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&#038;source=web&#038;cd=3&#038;ved=0CCYQFjAC&#038;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FUnderstanding-Police-Work-Psychological-Issues%2Fdp%2F0814796702&#038;rct=j&#038;q=police%20with%20psychological%20issues&#038;ei=8M6lTe_pEqfy0gG2gpiWBg&#038;usg=AFQjCNHx5WnB3oWDO6TBxZEKxS9TBAh0zA&#038;sig2=qNUR4EFZnRG-FJaajkBlKQ&#038;cad=rja</a></p>
<p>Book on police psych issues.  While the frank may have posted it in a non-pc way.  A good number of people who become police officers have issues that lead them to abuse their power.  IE: in this case, the USA dude was on his way out of the park, arm-barred someone (I wont even call it a shove, it wasn&#8217;t anything crazy) then faced the tazer like a man, which made this cop feel the need to beat him while he was standing there not resisting.  If the cop was better at his job, and this guy was such a threat, he should have been restrained at his seat, and escorted to the parking lot, then fined or whatever, and released.  Because the cop handled this so stupidly, the guy will probably be able to sue, and this guy could and should lose his job.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo1949</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[chknfkr wrote:
&quot;And don’t we ALL know by our respective ages by now that most cops are power hungry a-holes?&quot;

With an attitude like yours I&#039;d imagine you&#039;re a phrenologist&#039;s wet dream.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chknfkr wrote:<br />
&#8220;And don’t we ALL know by our respective ages by now that most cops are power hungry a-holes?&#8221;</p>
<p>With an attitude like yours I&#8217;d imagine you&#8217;re a phrenologist&#8217;s wet dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are so disenchanted with the country and how you apparently believe it is run, you&#039;re welcome to go somewhere else.  But I can&#039;t for the life of me think of a place with no national government or police system---or even better for you, perhaps, a place where each of those institutions exist, but where you can feel free to bash, abuse and murder the members.  For that type of place, you&#039;ll have to find your own.

And, notdumb, I&#039;m interested in the source for your statistic of &quot;roughly half of all cops are pathetic insecure punks that desire power to exact revenge on a type of person they resent.&quot;  Please inform us of that.  Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are so disenchanted with the country and how you apparently believe it is run, you&#8217;re welcome to go somewhere else.  But I can&#8217;t for the life of me think of a place with no national government or police system&#8212;or even better for you, perhaps, a place where each of those institutions exist, but where you can feel free to bash, abuse and murder the members.  For that type of place, you&#8217;ll have to find your own.</p>
<p>And, notdumb, I&#8217;m interested in the source for your statistic of &#8220;roughly half of all cops are pathetic insecure punks that desire power to exact revenge on a type of person they resent.&#8221;  Please inform us of that.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesgameday</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesgameday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 22:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cannot believe I was so slow on the uptake here... the only response needed to this video is... &quot;They drew first blood.  Not me.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe I was so slow on the uptake here&#8230; the only response needed to this video is&#8230; &#8220;They drew first blood.  Not me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesgameday</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the end of the video, when the guy is already on his stomach, hands behind his back and getting cuffed, the big cop puts his knee behind the guy&#039;s head and kneels on him.  He was already prone and not resisting.  At no point did the guy resist, he just didn&#039;t drop when he got tazed and the cops half assed left handed nine year old girl swing with the club also didn&#039;t bother him.  That&#039;s when fatso could feel his teeny tiny testicles move way back up into his body and latent male fantasy and inability to satisfy any partner sexually he ever felt came roaring to the surface and he had to unleash on this guy.

The guy getting beat is only a victim because what the police did was wrong and probably illegal.  But I&#039;m sure he&#039;s an asshole who&#039;s given out worse beatings in his life, so the fact that he&#039;ll probably wind up with a settlement out of this means there really and truly is no justice in the world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the video, when the guy is already on his stomach, hands behind his back and getting cuffed, the big cop puts his knee behind the guy&#8217;s head and kneels on him.  He was already prone and not resisting.  At no point did the guy resist, he just didn&#8217;t drop when he got tazed and the cops half assed left handed nine year old girl swing with the club also didn&#8217;t bother him.  That&#8217;s when fatso could feel his teeny tiny testicles move way back up into his body and latent male fantasy and inability to satisfy any partner sexually he ever felt came roaring to the surface and he had to unleash on this guy.</p>
<p>The guy getting beat is only a victim because what the police did was wrong and probably illegal.  But I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s an asshole who&#8217;s given out worse beatings in his life, so the fact that he&#8217;ll probably wind up with a settlement out of this means there really and truly is no justice in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: frankvzappa</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[exactly, the all-encompassing propaganda in this country has convinced a bunch of slaves that they are free...just because the founding fathers envisioned a free country doesnt mean that it is still the case...we are all slaves to the Federal Reserve private bank that is sucking this country dry like a leech...and these fascist cops who enforce this totalitarian police state should be tried for treason, for they are traitors, and should be treated as such...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exactly, the all-encompassing propaganda in this country has convinced a bunch of slaves that they are free&#8230;just because the founding fathers envisioned a free country doesnt mean that it is still the case&#8230;we are all slaves to the Federal Reserve private bank that is sucking this country dry like a leech&#8230;and these fascist cops who enforce this totalitarian police state should be tried for treason, for they are traitors, and should be treated as such&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I get you Joe. Sucked for his lady friend, big time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get you Joe. Sucked for his lady friend, big time.</p>
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		<title>By: notdumb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[notdumb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[two thumbs up roughly half of all cops are pathetic insecure punks that desire power to exact revenge on a type of person that they resent . but things will never change because the peasant class is brainwashed into thinking they have a good life]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two thumbs up roughly half of all cops are pathetic insecure punks that desire power to exact revenge on a type of person that they resent . but things will never change because the peasant class is brainwashed into thinking they have a good life</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, since you jump out of the gate using that term, you obviously aren&#039;t living up to your handle, Mr. &quot;Notdumb.&quot;  If you truly were not dumb, you would realize that the whole story wasn&#039;t released, nor has it been yet.  

We need to withold judgment of the people who lay their lives on the line every friggin&#039; day trying to keep the rest of us safe---at least until the whole story has come out.  

Here&#039;s hoping you don&#039;t need to rely on the police any time soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since you jump out of the gate using that term, you obviously aren&#8217;t living up to your handle, Mr. &#8220;Notdumb.&#8221;  If you truly were not dumb, you would realize that the whole story wasn&#8217;t released, nor has it been yet.  </p>
<p>We need to withold judgment of the people who lay their lives on the line every friggin&#8217; day trying to keep the rest of us safe&#8212;at least until the whole story has come out.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping you don&#8217;t need to rely on the police any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 20:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, I&#039;m not saying the guy SHOULDN&#039;T have been ejected, or that he was treated unfairly, or anything like that.  I&#039;m saying that it bothers me that this guy has a date to the ballpark - wife, girlfriend, whatever, they are obviously friendly - and he ends up getting drunk, unruly and ultimately beaten up by the cops.  

Whatever happened, whoever was responsible, it just makes me sad that date night ended violently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying the guy SHOULDN&#8217;T have been ejected, or that he was treated unfairly, or anything like that.  I&#8217;m saying that it bothers me that this guy has a date to the ballpark &#8211; wife, girlfriend, whatever, they are obviously friendly &#8211; and he ends up getting drunk, unruly and ultimately beaten up by the cops.  </p>
<p>Whatever happened, whoever was responsible, it just makes me sad that date night ended violently.</p>
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		<title>By: purdueman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For once I agree with cur... 

The cop reacted to Butterbean shoving the guy at the bottom of the stairs, thereby clearly making him a threat to all in his raging path.  Sure, the guy he shoved was undoubtedly taunting him, but Butterbean wasn&#039;t in the position to escalate anything without surely realizing that he was just making himself a target for the cops (who I think felt threatened by just his sheer girth alone and even moreso if he had been drinking heavily).

Judging (and admittedly that&#039;s what I&#039;m doing), from the sound of the crowd directly above him from the section that he had vacated, my bet is that he must have been potty mouthing one or more of the fans in his section, again throwing his considerable girth around.

As I&#039;m sure most of us have, I&#039;ve been caught in sections at sporting events where I either feel threatened or am at the very least seriously annoyed at one or more loudmouths, but what I&#039;ve always done is gotten up and left and moved to other seats.  At PNC, there are always as good or better seats that you can move to and if challenged by ushers and/or security people, I&#039;ve never once not been allowed to relocate when I tell them why I got up to move.

The mistake that the cops made was in not cuffing him first before escorting him out of the stadium.  Had they cuffed him right where he sat, they could have quickly nipped the whole thing in the bud and not had it escalate into whopping him the way that they did.

And don&#039;t we ALL know by our respective ages by now that most cops are power hungry a-holes?  Apparently Butterball didn&#039;t and hopefully has learned his lesson as to how NOT to behave in public!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For once I agree with cur&#8230; </p>
<p>The cop reacted to Butterbean shoving the guy at the bottom of the stairs, thereby clearly making him a threat to all in his raging path.  Sure, the guy he shoved was undoubtedly taunting him, but Butterbean wasn&#8217;t in the position to escalate anything without surely realizing that he was just making himself a target for the cops (who I think felt threatened by just his sheer girth alone and even moreso if he had been drinking heavily).</p>
<p>Judging (and admittedly that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing), from the sound of the crowd directly above him from the section that he had vacated, my bet is that he must have been potty mouthing one or more of the fans in his section, again throwing his considerable girth around.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m sure most of us have, I&#8217;ve been caught in sections at sporting events where I either feel threatened or am at the very least seriously annoyed at one or more loudmouths, but what I&#8217;ve always done is gotten up and left and moved to other seats.  At PNC, there are always as good or better seats that you can move to and if challenged by ushers and/or security people, I&#8217;ve never once not been allowed to relocate when I tell them why I got up to move.</p>
<p>The mistake that the cops made was in not cuffing him first before escorting him out of the stadium.  Had they cuffed him right where he sat, they could have quickly nipped the whole thing in the bud and not had it escalate into whopping him the way that they did.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t we ALL know by our respective ages by now that most cops are power hungry a-holes?  Apparently Butterball didn&#8217;t and hopefully has learned his lesson as to how NOT to behave in public!</p>
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		<title>By: trevorb06</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 19:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phillies... we&#039;ll call your tazing and raise you one beating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillies&#8230; we&#8217;ll call your tazing and raise you one beating.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure Joe, me too. But it&#039;s item 2 on your list there that catches my eye. What was the &#039;something sh!tty&#039;? Then there&#039;s the bit where he shoved that guy @ the bottom of the stairs. He didn&#039;t have to do that. I&#039;ve been stopped by the cops for DWB a couple of times. I&#039;ve never failed to get let go without even a ticket. Smile nice (hope teeth are clean), have info at the ready, and don&#039;t go out of your way to make it worse. The last bit there really applies to Mr. Clean/Butterbean. He went and made it worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure Joe, me too. But it&#8217;s item 2 on your list there that catches my eye. What was the &#8216;something sh!tty&#8217;? Then there&#8217;s the bit where he shoved that guy @ the bottom of the stairs. He didn&#8217;t have to do that. I&#8217;ve been stopped by the cops for DWB a couple of times. I&#8217;ve never failed to get let go without even a ticket. Smile nice (hope teeth are clean), have info at the ready, and don&#8217;t go out of your way to make it worse. The last bit there really applies to Mr. Clean/Butterbean. He went and made it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: frankvzappa</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cops who abuse their power should be executed, revived, and executed again...hell could not be hot enough for the cops and politicians, lawyers and bankers that are destroying us all....if you think this is a free country and not a fascist police state, you are a retarded donkey and should not be allowed to breed...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cops who abuse their power should be executed, revived, and executed again&#8230;hell could not be hot enough for the cops and politicians, lawyers and bankers that are destroying us all&#8230;.if you think this is a free country and not a fascist police state, you are a retarded donkey and should not be allowed to breed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: baseballstars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballstars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if you are familiar with civil rights and liberties, but they don&#039;t just vanish because a cop wants to look like a badass and exert whatever authority he/she wants. We have due process of law. In our society, cops aren&#039;t judges, juries, and executioners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you are familiar with civil rights and liberties, but they don&#8217;t just vanish because a cop wants to look like a badass and exert whatever authority he/she wants. We have due process of law. In our society, cops aren&#8217;t judges, juries, and executioners.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know we don&#039;t know.  I&#039;m not blaming anybody here.  Just noting the series of events:

1) Guy and gal out for a nice night at the ballpark
2) Something sh!tty and avoidable happens
3) Guy gets tased, clubbed, cuffed and dragged out 

I prefer my nights at the ballpark to not go quite like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m not blaming anybody here.  Just noting the series of events:</p>
<p>1) Guy and gal out for a nice night at the ballpark<br />
2) Something sh!tty and avoidable happens<br />
3) Guy gets tased, clubbed, cuffed and dragged out </p>
<p>I prefer my nights at the ballpark to not go quite like that.</p>
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		<title>By: bigd9484</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[how was he not leaving peacefully?  he walked down the stairs, gave someone a high five, when one of the workers got in his way for no reason.  Then the cop turns on his tazer and looks at him.  He stands perfectly still and says don&#039;t hit me, then proceeds to get beaten.  The cops deserve whatever punishment they are about to get.  If whatever issue he was causing was bad enough, they should have restrained him and escorted him out that way in the first place.  The fact he left his seat and started heading for the exit when asked suggests he was leaving peacefully, he never once raised a hand to the police officers, he shoved a stupid worker who blocked his high five.  I don&#039;t think that deserves a beat down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how was he not leaving peacefully?  he walked down the stairs, gave someone a high five, when one of the workers got in his way for no reason.  Then the cop turns on his tazer and looks at him.  He stands perfectly still and says don&#8217;t hit me, then proceeds to get beaten.  The cops deserve whatever punishment they are about to get.  If whatever issue he was causing was bad enough, they should have restrained him and escorted him out that way in the first place.  The fact he left his seat and started heading for the exit when asked suggests he was leaving peacefully, he never once raised a hand to the police officers, he shoved a stupid worker who blocked his high five.  I don&#8217;t think that deserves a beat down.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronmoreno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaronmoreno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please, you tell me the factors on when someone poses a threat to the police.

The right thing may not have been saying &quot;Oooh&quot; to the police when he was ordered to move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, you tell me the factors on when someone poses a threat to the police.</p>
<p>The right thing may not have been saying &#8220;Oooh&#8221; to the police when he was ordered to move.</p>
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		<title>By: baseballstars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballstars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Someone on another forum said it was a good thing, considering what recently happened in LA.

First of all, that was in a parking lot, not in the stands. Second, that&#039;s more a Los Angeles gang problem, NOT a baseball problem. Third, one incident across the country should not give cops the right to beat down anyone in any stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone on another forum said it was a good thing, considering what recently happened in LA.</p>
<p>First of all, that was in a parking lot, not in the stands. Second, that&#8217;s more a Los Angeles gang problem, NOT a baseball problem. Third, one incident across the country should not give cops the right to beat down anyone in any stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronmoreno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aaronmoreno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You were hoping for murder? And how was he leaving peacefully? Are we watching the same video?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were hoping for murder? And how was he leaving peacefully? Are we watching the same video?</p>
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		<title>By: baseballstars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballstars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Were you the wimp who got punked? Stupid reply.

It depends on a lot of factors. When his hands are down by his waist and he&#039;s moving forward, he&#039;s not posing a threat. He stopped when the officer said something to him. Had he started moving when the officers pulled out their tazers, they would have claimed he was running. He did the right thing and stood still... and &lt;i&gt;still&lt;/i&gt; was brutalized.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were you the wimp who got punked? Stupid reply.</p>
<p>It depends on a lot of factors. When his hands are down by his waist and he&#8217;s moving forward, he&#8217;s not posing a threat. He stopped when the officer said something to him. Had he started moving when the officers pulled out their tazers, they would have claimed he was running. He did the right thing and stood still&#8230; and <i>still</i> was brutalized.</p>
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		<title>By: aaronmoreno</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doesn&#039;t that kind of depend on what you say? Maybe a little?

Were you the lady screaming in the video?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t that kind of depend on what you say? Maybe a little?</p>
<p>Were you the lady screaming in the video?</p>
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		<title>By: bigd9484</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sad, I was hoping the crowd would rise up from the excessive use of force for someone standing there, and throw the cops over the railing.   Either that or I wish just once someone would have some basic combat training and would lay the rent a cops out, and walk out peacefully like he was trying to do in the first place (after the incident) That guy will hopefully end up making some cash though, completely unacceptable behavior by the rent a cops.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad, I was hoping the crowd would rise up from the excessive use of force for someone standing there, and throw the cops over the railing.   Either that or I wish just once someone would have some basic combat training and would lay the rent a cops out, and walk out peacefully like he was trying to do in the first place (after the incident) That guy will hopefully end up making some cash though, completely unacceptable behavior by the rent a cops.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah Mr. Hair, that&#039;s exactly right. We have no idea what was going to lead to all that. Best not to take sides on this one till the details get out there a bit. No matter what; when being escorted by the cops the smoothest move you can make is to go quietly unless to have a &quot;McLovin&quot; deal in place. Then, it is on...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Mr. Hair, that&#8217;s exactly right. We have no idea what was going to lead to all that. Best not to take sides on this one till the details get out there a bit. No matter what; when being escorted by the cops the smoothest move you can make is to go quietly unless to have a &#8220;McLovin&#8221; deal in place. Then, it is on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: baseballstars</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[baseballstars]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t understand all the love for the cops here, just because they are considered &quot;authority&quot; figures. This guy posed no threat to the cops, wasn&#039;t threatening them physically. They started to beat him and tazed him as he simply stood there. What he did beforehand doesn&#039;t really matter. For all we know, someone else could have started whatever the incident was, but he got the blame. However, the cops completely overreacted here. I really don&#039;t see how anyone with an IQ over 12 could justify their actions. Because he &lt;i&gt;said&lt;/i&gt; something? So cops have the right to beat you down and use their tazers simply because they don&#039;t like what you &lt;i&gt;said&lt;/i&gt;??? Bullshit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand all the love for the cops here, just because they are considered &#8220;authority&#8221; figures. This guy posed no threat to the cops, wasn&#8217;t threatening them physically. They started to beat him and tazed him as he simply stood there. What he did beforehand doesn&#8217;t really matter. For all we know, someone else could have started whatever the incident was, but he got the blame. However, the cops completely overreacted here. I really don&#8217;t see how anyone with an IQ over 12 could justify their actions. Because he <i>said</i> something? So cops have the right to beat you down and use their tazers simply because they don&#8217;t like what you <i>said</i>??? Bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But, then again, we don&#039;t know what happened to spark the whole thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, then again, we don&#8217;t know what happened to spark the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seeing the pics from before the game makes me kind of sad.  He and his lady look like they are out for a nice night at the ballpark, and it ends with him getting tased, clubbed and handcuffed.  I feel bad for his date.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing the pics from before the game makes me kind of sad.  He and his lady look like they are out for a nice night at the ballpark, and it ends with him getting tased, clubbed and handcuffed.  I feel bad for his date.</p>
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		<title>By: purdueman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purdueman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big fat ass had it coming to him. One can only imagine how miserable it must have been to go to your seats only to see loud mouth fat ass spilling over into your space next to you.  

In addition to too many big city ballparks having ticket prices that are way too high (like $60 for a lousy unreserved seat on a bench at Wrigley Field for &quot;premium&quot; games), this is another good reason not to go to the ballpark, as without season tickets, as the cheaper the seats the more your odds go way up of getting stuck next to an imbecile like this or some guy who feigns not speaking English as his kids run totally out of control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big fat ass had it coming to him. One can only imagine how miserable it must have been to go to your seats only to see loud mouth fat ass spilling over into your space next to you.  </p>
<p>In addition to too many big city ballparks having ticket prices that are way too high (like $60 for a lousy unreserved seat on a bench at Wrigley Field for &#8220;premium&#8221; games), this is another good reason not to go to the ballpark, as without season tickets, as the cheaper the seats the more your odds go way up of getting stuck next to an imbecile like this or some guy who feigns not speaking English as his kids run totally out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that rhymed; Kudos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that rhymed; Kudos.</p>
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