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Jayson Werth meets the Phillies again

Apr 12, 2011, 11:09 AM EDT

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It’s going to be a weird scene at Nats Park tonight for two reasons: 1. Jayson Werth is facing the Phillies for the first time since he signed his mega-deal with the Nats; and 2. Because it’s the Phillies in Washington, the park will likely be full of Philly fans invading the place like they did last year.

Which has me thinking that we have a two-tiered ethical question:

1. Is it acceptable to boo the guy who left the team for a ridiculous contract that your team never would have ever offered him?; and

2. Even if the answer is yes, is it acceptable to boo him in his own home park which you and several thousand of your friends happen to be invading?

It seems to me that booing Werth would more acceptable if he somehow truly spurned the Phillies, but the kind of money the Nats gave him was insane. Ruben Amaro would have been making a huge mistake to offer Werth that kind of cash, so Phillies fans should have a hard time holding it against him.

Likewise, it’s one thing to come to another team’s park like the Phillies fans do en masse — hey, if Nats fans don’t like it they can buy more tickets — but to boo in that park, on potentially dubious grounds?

Hmmm  … it’s times like this when we need Emily Post to weigh in.

  1. Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:17 AM

    Seeing the pic above, I must ask…what would Jesus do?

    • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:40 AM

      Jesus would get the hell out of there, because JDub looks stoned and downright unhinged in that pic.

  2. phillieshomer - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM

    If I were fortunate enough to be able to head down there (I’m an accountant and it’s pre-April 15th!) there’s no way I’d boo… for the reason you just said. He didn’t “spurn” the Phillies… and I would have boo’ed Amaro if he matched that offer!

    So, I hope he gets a round of applause in his first plate appearance and that every other National in that lineup gets booed!

    Phillies fans should easily outnumber Nats… especially since Nats fans had their “call to arms” months before which most likely just motivated more Philly fans to get tickets!!

  3. Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:22 AM

    He’ll be booed in CBP south for sure tonight. Not because of what you mentioned above. Because of his trash talking in regards to the Phillies. “I hate the Phillies” If I remember correctly… And there was more, but I don’t have time today to drudge it all up. Not that I really care much either. He’s history and both of his possible replacements have outperformed him BY FAR, so far this season. More proof for protection in a line up paying off?? I think so.

    • nps6724 - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM

      Hasn’t lineup protection been proven to be a myth?

      • Alex K - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:36 AM

        Yep.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:48 AM

        You could agree or not. I myself think when you have a loaded line up, good hitters will be pitched around much less often. It just makes less sense to do so when the guy batting behind is also a slugger. Werth regardless of his bad batting numbers this season has a nice OBP, meaning he’s walked a whole bunch now.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM

        Allow me to be more clear. I believe in lineup protection existing. I also feel it’s overrated by many people. Overall it’s impact is minimal, but in isolated cases it’s real. It’s acknowledged by players and Managers alike. A slugger will get less strikes thrown to him if there is a mediocre batter behind him. Intentional walks happen all the time that look like bad pitches. It’s done on purpose and will happen less with a guy that can bat for high avg right behind him in the line up.

      • nps6724 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:25 PM

        While it makes sense, historical stats don’t support it.

      • Alex K - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:27 PM

        The thing is, Werth’s OBA was good for the last four years. He walk 82 times last year and 91 the year before. He’s a good bet to get on base at a good clip wherever he plays.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM

        NPS, There are many things that are true and make sense that historical stats don’t support. I believe this is one of them.

        Alex, Werth’s #’s so far show every stat of his has declined thus far since he’s been a nat. His OBP has declined less than his avg telling me he’s being walked more often. It’s too small a sample size to know, but I think we’ll see a decline in his overall #s for the season. I think some of that will be due to him getting less strikes to swing on because of the line up he’s now in.

        Again the overall premise is very hard to prove, and one thing to note he’s been walked 7 times so far. At this rate he’ll have 100 walks by the end of the season which would be a career high.

      • nps6724 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM

        “NPS, There are many things that are true and make sense that historical stats don’t support. I believe this is one of them.”

        Such as?

        Werth’s numbers will likely drop simply because he won’t be playing 81 games in a sardine can anymore. Last year, his home OPS was 1.016 while only .829 away. In ’09, .902 home to .857 away. ’08 was the only time it wasn’t true.

        His drop won’t have anything to do with “protection” since it’s a myth.

      • Alex K - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:07 PM

        The rub with his numbers declining is also that he is in his 30’s. People don’t normally get better at 33, they get worse.

        Also you mentioned it, but the sample size is way too small to have any reliable information come of his numbers, so far.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:29 PM

        NPS, Juiced ball implications? Started because of stats, I mean that’s recent and off the top of my head. But books have been written, many of them that prove the failure of statistics when applied to human functions. Baseball is a human function. Furthermore, read this and your home vs. away stat is now in question.

        http://www.azsnakepit.com/2011/1/31/1966978/lies-damn-lies-and-statistics-what-scorecasting-can-teach-us-about

        “home teams out-hit their opponent (AVG, SLG, doubles, home runs) by the same amount regardless of whether the team is in a hitter-friendly park or a pitcher-friendly park.”

        I’m not trying to change your mind here, I’m just trying to open it some. While stats tell us some of the story, they never tell us all of the story. I believe in stats, they are the best overall measuring tool we have. But they aren’t perfect, because they are being applied to human functions.

      • nps6724 - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:05 PM

        But Jonny, you’re applying how ALL teams play at home to one player. Just because a team as a whole does that doesn’t mean each player does. Offense are typically optimized (as best they can) to get the most out of their home park and thus should consistently out-hit their opponents. But not every player on that offense will.

        Even if protection is real, Werth has had Ryan Zimmerman hitting behind him. Zimmerman’s OPS through the first week is sitting at 1.022.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:50 PM

        BTW CBP is not as much of a hitters park as you think. They have a park factor of below 1 last season.

        Most players play better at home. Fact. Which has no bearing on this “protection” topic anyway. And I don’t know how this has strayed to a different topic now.

        Ignoring the fact that players and managers believe in protection, and build their lineups to optimize this because of flawed statistical results is a blind way to look at things imo. Common sense and most of professional baseball says it is real, and true. Hey if Gillick believes it, so do I. And if that’s not proof I don’t know what is. The man is a baseball genius and builds lineups with protection in mind.

      • nps6724 - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:01 PM

        Their park factor could’ve been down due to having Doc friggin’ Halladay shutting down the opposition every 5th day.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:17 PM

        Doc frigging Halladay only pitches at CBP??? Hmm? I coulda sworn I saw him pitch in other places too…..

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:18 PM

        Is that a flawed stat??? hmm?

      • nps6724 - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:19 PM

        Feel free to click here: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/joke

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM

        I’m sorry, just trying to make light of things, I do that. I believe that stat has nothing to do with Roy. It has to do with his teammates hitting , not opposition.

      • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM

        Ha! Ok, thanks for the link.

  4. drunkenhooliganism - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM

    For some reason a few Phillies’ fans booed Brett Myers last week, who begged to stay with the Phillies, risked injury in a contract year to rush back and pitch out of the bullpen for the playoffs in 2009 and was a key part of the 2008 championship run including one of the biggest individual moments of those playoffs.

    “Should” has nothing to do with whether Phillies’ fans will boo.

    I personally think Werth has crazy eyes and looks like a serial killer so I’m glad to get him out of Philly for safety reasons. But, when he comes to Philly, I’ll cheer him as a Phillies’ fan for his part in a great run of success and I’ll be in awe of his ability to get someone to pay him that much money.

    Also, I like that you’re giving us Phillies’ fans our own post every day so we don’t dirty up the other ones.

    • bigphilippe - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM

      Philadelphians will boo because that’s just what they do. As a Philadelphian, I never realized that we’re the only people who boo as much as we do and don’t think anything of it. It’s become a natural action, and we don’t perceive it as negative as it is.

      Example: I lived in NY for a few years, and one night I went to a gameshow/charity event. Two teams of 5 (3 guys, 2 girls, all in their early 20s) faced off in a Vending Machine Eating Contest; the objective was to eat as many items in a candy vending machine as possible. As I was watching, I noticed one of the teams was kinda loafing and not “giving their all.” So I started booing, and booing rather loudly. After a minute, people around me were staring at me and giving me dirty looks, and even the contestants were looking at me because I became “that guy.”

      So I guess the point of the story is, Philadelphians boo because they have nothing better to do/it’s what they grew up doing, and everyone else makes a big deal out of it.

      • drunkenhooliganism - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:57 AM

        booing people eating candy is awesome.

      • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:12 PM

        Boo the sugar, fat and cholesterol, not the people. And then eat a cheesesteak.

      • wildthing2 - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:46 PM

        I agree with the above with one exception. We should not boo anyone that has helped bring a championship to Philly.

        ie: Don’t boo:
        Moses Malone, Mo Cheeks, Steve Carlton, Jimmy Rollins etc. and for god’s sake not Cole Hamels for one bad start! He should have permanent immunity in my book. That fact that he came from sunny Southern California to live and win world series games here, where we have about 10 nice days a year, should be werth something!

        ps There’s about 125 million reasons to boo Werth, he can take it, he’s smiling all the way to the bank.

      • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM

        wildthing2: So you’re saying don’t boo him, but here’s why you should?

    • Panda Claus - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:26 PM

      A serial killer, really? And isn’t that like trying to find Waldo in a Waldo factory?

  5. shaggylocks - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    Booing a player because they left your team during free agency is annoyingly classless, in my opinion, and happens far too often in baseball.* John Lackey got booed last year when the Red Sox played in Anaheim, and as far as I could tell there was no acrimony in the way Lackey left the team. He helped pitch the Angels to a World Series championship, for God’s sake.

    But since Phillies fans are the epitome of class, I suspect they’ll give him a roaring ovation. And then they’ll be interrupted by a swarm of flying pigs.

    *Exceptions can arguably be made if the player left to join your arch-rivals, a la Damon leaving the Sox for the Yankees. Even then I think the case for booing is tenuous, at best. Either way, though, that obviously doesn’t apply here.

    • kellyb9 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:17 PM

      So if I’m understanding you right… it’s alright to a boo a player if you’re a Red Sox fan.

      • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM

        Absolutely not. Nobody but Philly fans ever boo anybody at any time. And nothing ever happens at any other stadium but the ones where Philly fans are.

      • shaggylocks - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:32 PM

        “Booing a player because they left your team during free agency is annoyingly classless, in my opinion, and happens far too often in baseball.”

        It happens, and I think it’s classless. The team I root for does it, and it annoys me. Tonight, the team you root for will do it. That annoys me, too.

  6. enrgy2burn - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:29 AM

    i hope he gets booed unmercifully tonight. it’s not because i’m bitter toward him leaving but because of all the crying and trash talking he did once he was gone and likely had his ‘oh sh*t’ moment realizing he’d never see October baseball again.

  7. jcantwell82 - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:30 AM

    I imagine that people who make the trip are bigger fans, and will be more aware of the situation, and not boo. In Philly, i would suspect a cheer at first, and then booing from then on, same treatment Pat the Bat got. But, the fans are wild cards on past players.

  8. Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:32 AM

    1. Is it acceptable to boo the guy who left the team for a ridiculous contract that your team never would have ever offered him?

    Yes, it is. For the last several years, JDub made it crystal clear that he was going to test the FA waters, and that there was next to no chance that he would give them any sort of discount or anything—despite the fact that they gave him what was likely his only real shot to stay in MLB. And there are also those who would hold his post-contract comments against him.

    2. Even if the answer is yes, is it acceptable to boo him in his own home park which you and several thousand of your friends happen to be invading?

    Yes, it is, especially since you can’t really invade a place that you have been invited to attend…for several years running…every time the Phightins play there. As you said, if the fans don’t like it, they should buy more tickets

    What you should have asked was whether it was aceptable to boo a guy who was a pivotal cog in the offensive machine the Phightins have been, which also led to the first title for the city in 100 pro sports seasons. That’s a more nuanced situation.

    I’m glad he’s where his bank account and/or portfolio is happy. Good for him for getting a much bigger pay day than he had gotten in the past. Would I cheer him if I were at the first Phightins game against the Gnats? I think I would…the first time he is announced and his first at bat. After that? I don’t know. I guess that would depend on how his team is playing against the Phils.

  9. bleedgreen - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:32 AM

    Well, Werth said somethings last year and looked generally disinterested last year. That with the rumors of him banging Jen Utley (who knows if they’re true or not) and him yelling at a fan in the stands last year, he should be boo’d. Not for leaving to the Nats, but for his lackadaisical play last year, along with reports that he’s a scumbag.

    • prionogenic - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:31 PM

      Dunno about the truth about Jen Utley, sounds spurious to say the least.

      As for yelling at a fan, it was a Phillies fan that reached over deflected a ball in foul territory that JDub could’ve caught. Although nothing came out of it, as a home fan you gotta let your defense do their job.

  10. cur68 - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:34 AM

    Canadian fans never boo; we applaud sarcastically, apologize, then, if its a hockey game, get into a fight with the players. Then everybody apologizes and we all go home happy. The Halliday trade should have included that guy.

    • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM

      You don’t boo? Oh, that’s right—you taunt in French Canadian. Sacre Bleu!!!!

      • cur68 - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:48 AM

        Oui, and we are merciless. Then we apologize. You gonna jeer or cheer JW?

      • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:05 PM

        I’ll be watching on the tube, so, no.

        I’ll just curse him out, flip him off, stick a bunch of pins in the JDub voodoo doll I have, etc. But tastefully—and after my kid goes to bed.

        That is unless, of course, he gets picked off on the basepaths after Big Joe sticks his tongue out at him, or he strikes out three or four times, etc., in which case I’ll cheer for him.

      • cur68 - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:06 PM

        Define ‘tastefully” in Phillyese for me. Is this when you refrain from vomiting on the small kid and get her dad (the cop) instead, or when you throw to miss skinny drunken teenage Santa, or when most of your punches miss the opposition fan? I ask, not to poke fun at Philly fans for a history of such things, but because reality for one is not the same as reality for another. C’est vrai!

      • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:20 PM

        I’ll look past the dreck about the vomiting Santa thing. (Though I don’t think I’m aware of any missed punching incidents….)

        But, I’ve been teaching him to boo the uniform and/or team, and not the individual player—though there are a few exceptions.

    • Panda Claus - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:29 PM

      No booing. Isn’t is just called beauxing instead?

      • cur68 - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:01 PM

        I think that means something like “gooding”. No, we don’t do that.

  11. halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM

    Jayson Werthless will be booed, and boo the Phillies faithful will. Then, to add injury to insult, the Phillies offense will give Livan Hernandez a beatdown.

    Jayson, take your 126 mil and lie down like the homeless looking dog that you are.

  12. Chris Fiorentino - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:03 PM

    From all the times I remember Livan facing the Phillies, he has pitched well against them…I don’t feel like looking up his stats. I wouldn’t boo Jayson Werth for a couple reasons…

    1) He already has to be miserable enough playing for the Gnats when he could be on the best team in baseball.
    2) Yeah, sure he has a ton of cash, but really…is there much of a difference between the $90 million the Phillies offered and the insane $126 million the gnats paid him? Especially when you will be miserable 6 months a year losing on a nightly basis.
    3) He was a key component of the 2008 world champions, and when he wasn’t yelling at fans, he was a great guy signing autographs.
    4) The Phillies are 7-2 and on their way to an historic season. Why waste the energy to boo a guy who, for all intents and purposes, is completely meaningless to me right now?

  13. Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:14 PM

    Nyjer Morgan will be booing him, that’s for sure.

    http://www.crossingbroad.com/2011/04/jayson-werth-may-have-gotten-nyjer-morgan-traded.html

    • halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM

      LOL!!! In the picture, it looks like Werth is leading Nyjer around on a leach. Werth’s dog, perhaps? LOL!

  14. halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM

    “if Nats fans don’t like it they can buy more tickets”

    Those people in DC never deserved another team. They had their chance with a franchise decades ago when they were the Senators. They didn’t support it then and they don’t support it now. I think they should move the team back to Montreal and bring back that goofy Youppi mascot, who on his best day couldn’t tie the shoes of the Phillies Phanatic.

    Nats fans don’t care. That’s the whole point. If they did care, they would buy tickets. That is of course if they can get some of that Obama stimulus money. Being in DC, they could probably use it to buy some tickets.

    Go Phillies!!!!!!!

    • heyblueyoustink - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:09 PM

      Hey man, I love me my Phillies and all, but you my friend seem like a bit of a harda$$……

      Since you’re spending the time and wasting brain cells on the habits of Nationals fans, I wonder if someone could answer for me what their attendance numbers were like during Strasberg’s starts last year?

      Kind of goes along the lines of “give me something to watch and I will”

      Quit being a dorko about it……because the Jefferies/Zeile days certainly did not pack the house around here, unless you’re too young to remember that and am contributing to this blog in between study hall and gym

      • halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:21 PM

        Dorko??? What are you, twelve?

        Jefferies/Zeile days? I remember watching bad Phillies baseball back in the days of Kevin Gross, Shane Rawley, Glen Wilson, Lance Parrish, etc. I’ve followed baseball for 30 years.

        Even in the worse days of Phillies baseball, we still managed over 2 mil in attendance every year, What I said about the Nats attendance and lack of fan support is indisputable.

        Furthermore, your point about attendance rising during Strasburg’s starts makes my point even more clear. They go to the park a little more often only when an over-hyped kid who hasn’t proved anything yet plays. Sounds like a front runner mentality to me, genius.

      • heyblueyoustink - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:19 PM

        Front running? nah, not really my business, I leave that to Yankees fans……

        You forgot to mention Kent Tekulve and Von Hayes……

        2 million a year? You might be right, what if we take the freebies they gave out in the Phillies Franks hot dog packs and take them out of the numbers…..eh? eh? eh?

        Just saying, it’s easy to pass judgement when the team is lousy……if you build it, the will come…..

        And i’m 12 and 1/2 if you must know……..

    • cur68 - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:10 PM

      I totally agree. Bring back the Expos.

  15. xnumberoneson - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM

    Since when have Philadelphia fans found it ethically wrong to boo anyone anywhere ever?

    • halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:26 PM

      Never. And we love to do it to annoy people like you.

    • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:28 PM

      BOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

      • halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:35 PM

        I hear that when Werth comes back to Citizens Bank Park, they will be having a Gillette razor giveaway. I also heared, upon hearing this, that Werth booed this idea. He never met a razor that he liked.

  16. garlicfriesandbaseball - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:35 PM

    Jayson Werth is a class act and I was thrilled when he went to the Washington Nationals, a team who needs him and will appreciate him. When the Phillies played the Giants I was much more fearful of Werth than the touted Phillies pitching staff, and that fear proved out to be justified.

    The Phillies can’t help that they’re classless. It probably comes down through the generations. It would take a little class to get out of that syndrome, and it’s not going to happen in Philadelphia. In contrast at last night’s game in San Francisco, the Giants gave a standing ovation to the new rival Dodger, Juan Uribe, who was presented his World Series Ring at the beginning of the Giants-Dodger game. And even though Uribe’s used to “class” having played for the SF Giants World Champions, it still brought him to tears, as it did most of us.

    San Francisco Giants, a class act. Ahhh…..I can just hear the boo’s from the Phillies fans; does my heart good!

    • drunkenhooliganism - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:40 PM

      You could tear a rotator cuff doing that

    • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM

      BOOOOOOOOO!!!!

      • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:08 PM

        I want royalties on that.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:16 PM

      I guess it’s all good…when the Giants are floundering at the bottom of the NL West 15 games behind the Rockies, you will always have 2010 to hang your hats on you weasily Giants fans.

    • ohellyea - Apr 12, 2011 at 5:25 PM

      San Fran classy? I was at each of playoff games in San Fran and sat in the Phillies family section. When trying to reach our seats we were given the finger, had various obscenities yelled at and were even called gay, faggot Philies lovers (and in all places, really?). Giant fans in surrounding section were kicked out in each and every game for yelling threats and throwing things at us. Jason werth classy? Having an affair with another players wife, yelling at a child in the stand and never doing one charitable thing doesn’t remind me of class. The only thing he spends money on is his new mansion he’s building in Alexandria Virginia.

  17. kellyb9 - Apr 12, 2011 at 12:40 PM

    In a roundabout way, Phillies fans traveling to D.C. are paying his salary. They can boo or cheer as much as they want. In the end of the day, Werth shouldn’t care… he’s rich.

  18. dmccarrie - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:22 PM

    Just my personal opinion and preference: I don’t boo ANYONE who was on the 2008 Phillies World Series team. I might not applaud or acknowledge their existence but I will not boo.

    Those guys get a free pass from me for life.

    Even Adam Eaton….

    • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:35 PM

      “Even Adam Eaton”

      Well, THAT’S just insane.

    • Jonny 5 - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:02 PM

      Cole Hamels has admitted to booing Adam Eaton. On the record. Just an FYI. He was born to play in Philly I think.

    • kellyb9 - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      Good point… Matt Stairs gets free beer for life in Philly.

    • kellyb9 - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      Good point… Matt Stairs gets free beer for life in Philly.

  19. mdpickles - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:26 PM

    I can’t wait until the Phils fans cheer him in DC and Philly and see the subsequent blogger reaction. Pat the Bat got a huuuuge standing O, why wouldn’t Werth? The Phils were lucky to have Werth and Werth was lucky to have the Phils. In the end, we know he is a beloved player and the Phils aren’t saddled with a ridiculous contract. Win-Win.

    • Utley's Hair - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:54 PM

      However, Pat the Bat was here for longer, came up through the system, was here through the famine, and was here for the jubilation. Werth isn’t a “lifelong” Phil.

      As for Thome? He’s an anomaly. We would cheer that guy tying his shoes.

      • halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:01 PM

        I agree with you Hair. But, next time Pat comes back, he will be forever known as the “Gimp”. I believe the reaction will be a little different. I hope we have a Gimp bobblehead giveaway at the bank when the Giants come into town.

    • mdpickles - Apr 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM

      I gotta have a Pat Burrell “Machine” bobblehead

  20. delawarephilliesfan - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    Is it okay to boo Jayson Werth? Yes. Is that irrational? Yes. That’s what baseball fans do – they act irrational. We spend god awful sums of money to watch a bunch of seasonal mercenaries come to town, and we cheer as though our life and well being depended on what they did. Most of the time our well being DOES depend on what they do! Is that irrational? YES!

    We fans have an irrational attachment to baseball, which is why Werth was able to make $126 million dollars. Don’t complain about the benign downsides – really, boo-ing? What, his feelings may be hurt?

    After he won the 1997 Masters, Tiger Woods had lunch with Arnold Palmer. TW confessed that he was simply overwhelmed with his schedule – long hours on the range, 2 hours a day for interviews, photo shoots, business meetings, it was just nuts. “I can’t be a normal 21 year old” Tiger told Arnold. Arnie just grinned and said “You’re right Tiger, you’re not a normal 21 year old. Normal 21 year olds don’t have $50 million in the bank. If you don’t like it, give the money back”

    Not that Mr. Werth is complaining, but should he not like being boo-ed (by anyone), then he can waltz off now into a well paid retirement

  21. cleverbob - Apr 12, 2011 at 1:54 PM

    Does he deserve it? No

    Would I laugh if it happened? Absolutely. It’s up to the Nat fans to buy more tickets and cheer louder.

  22. halladaysbicepts - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:21 PM

    Check this out. Very funny! Jayson Werth and Cliff Lee having a conversation after Werth found out that Lee was going back to Philly.

    Warning: Some strong adult language in this clip.

  23. kcq101 - Apr 12, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    As a Phils fan…

    All considered, he doesn’t deserve to be be booed. Just like Pat-the-Bat, when he returned, we gave him a standing ovation and the booed the hell out of him when he hit the first of 2 HRs on his second appearance. Yes, Pat had more tenor, but Werth contributed significantly(relative to what we used to have out there) from 2007-2009.

    However, I think the Phils fans will ultimately boo him, but I think it will be to more so collectively show the Nationals fans that we were present in their own park, overpowering their own cheering. I think it’s going to be more a slight to the DC fans, rather than to Werth. Had our opening series been at CBP (north), he gets a standing ovation, without a doubt. It’s a different dynamic being in DC.

    And for my fellow Phils fans that anxious to boo him, I’d like them to consider whether or not we would have brought back Cliff Lee had we signed Werth. Despite Werth’s contributions, I’m much more happy to have Lee back in town.

  24. macjacmccoy - Apr 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM

    Werth wouldnt have got booed if he kept his mouth shut. No one was mad at him when he left he probably would have gotten cheered. But he has said some off the wall stuff since signing with the Nats about the Phillies so he deserves to get booed.

    And dont act like all we do is boo we cheared Dawkins, Westbrook, Burrell, Iverson and even Mcnabb when they returned. The ones that get booed are the ones that deserve it.

  25. rapmusicmademedoit - Apr 12, 2011 at 6:54 PM

    The Police should jail anyone booing.

    • marinersnate - Apr 13, 2011 at 2:41 AM

      Or, at the very least, tase them. That will stop em’.

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