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	<title>Comments on: Must-click link: Save statistic silliness</title>
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		<title>By: Reflex</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/must-click-link-save-statistic-silliness/comment-page-1/#comment-132797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reflex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 00:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The 9th is literally no more important than the 8th or 7th or any other inning.  A game can be lost at any time.  Every inning is equally important.  Saves are just an arbitrary after the fact stat, that isn&#039;t even terribly difficult to earn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 9th is literally no more important than the 8th or 7th or any other inning.  A game can be lost at any time.  Every inning is equally important.  Saves are just an arbitrary after the fact stat, that isn&#8217;t even terribly difficult to earn.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/must-click-link-save-statistic-silliness/comment-page-1/#comment-132628</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 20:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You anti-save people are just insane. 

The closer isn&#039;t always the &quot;best&quot; reliever.  It&#039;s the guy who can pitch under the 9th inning pressure.  Period.  Just because a guy can get outs in the 7th and 8th doesn&#039;t mean he can get outs in the 9th.  Look at Ryan Madson.  Dude is unbelievable in the 8th and he stinks in the 9th.  Doesn&#039;t matter if it is the 7-8-9 hitters.  He stinks.  He comes in throwing ball one-ball two every time.  Why?  He obviously doesn&#039;t like the pressure of the 9th inning and is more comfortable in the 8th.

You anti-save guys can harp on the fact that the 7th inning might be a tighter spot, and maybe it is.  But as far as the pressure of starting the 9th inning, there&#039;s a certain breed of pitchers who can consistently do it.  And there are guys who have success for a year or two...even a month or two.  Ryan Franklin is the perfect example.  He can&#039;t do it anymore.  Why?  Nobody knows.  At least Nathan is just coming off an injury.  Franklin&#039;s mind is just screwed up.

The point is that starting the 9th inning with a 1-2-3 run lead is more stressful than pitching in the 7th inning every day of the week and twice on Sunday.  If you don&#039;t understand that then you don&#039;t understand the human mind.

If you think hitting those 2 foul shots when your team is down a point with 2 seconds left is as stressful as hitting those same two foul shots in the first quarter, then you are nuts.  If you think that throwing that 12th strike of a perfect game in bowling is just as stressful as that first strike, then you are nuts.  Stopping shots in OT for a goalie are just a tad more stressful than stopping shots in the second period of a 6-0 blowout, don&#039;t you think?

The save is still an important stat, whether you guys like it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You anti-save people are just insane. </p>
<p>The closer isn&#8217;t always the &#8220;best&#8221; reliever.  It&#8217;s the guy who can pitch under the 9th inning pressure.  Period.  Just because a guy can get outs in the 7th and 8th doesn&#8217;t mean he can get outs in the 9th.  Look at Ryan Madson.  Dude is unbelievable in the 8th and he stinks in the 9th.  Doesn&#8217;t matter if it is the 7-8-9 hitters.  He stinks.  He comes in throwing ball one-ball two every time.  Why?  He obviously doesn&#8217;t like the pressure of the 9th inning and is more comfortable in the 8th.</p>
<p>You anti-save guys can harp on the fact that the 7th inning might be a tighter spot, and maybe it is.  But as far as the pressure of starting the 9th inning, there&#8217;s a certain breed of pitchers who can consistently do it.  And there are guys who have success for a year or two&#8230;even a month or two.  Ryan Franklin is the perfect example.  He can&#8217;t do it anymore.  Why?  Nobody knows.  At least Nathan is just coming off an injury.  Franklin&#8217;s mind is just screwed up.</p>
<p>The point is that starting the 9th inning with a 1-2-3 run lead is more stressful than pitching in the 7th inning every day of the week and twice on Sunday.  If you don&#8217;t understand that then you don&#8217;t understand the human mind.</p>
<p>If you think hitting those 2 foul shots when your team is down a point with 2 seconds left is as stressful as hitting those same two foul shots in the first quarter, then you are nuts.  If you think that throwing that 12th strike of a perfect game in bowling is just as stressful as that first strike, then you are nuts.  Stopping shots in OT for a goalie are just a tad more stressful than stopping shots in the second period of a 6-0 blowout, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>The save is still an important stat, whether you guys like it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dangerous Mabry</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/must-click-link-save-statistic-silliness/comment-page-1/#comment-132485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dangerous Mabry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like that he addresses the fact that due to matchups or platoon splits, the &quot;closer&quot; might actually be a bad option in the ninth, as opposed to just pointing out the obvious fact that he might be more useful earlier in the game.  Good read, and it includes a little more than just the same article we&#039;ve all read dozens of times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that he addresses the fact that due to matchups or platoon splits, the &#8220;closer&#8221; might actually be a bad option in the ninth, as opposed to just pointing out the obvious fact that he might be more useful earlier in the game.  Good read, and it includes a little more than just the same article we&#8217;ve all read dozens of times.</p>
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