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	<title>Comments on: N.Y. Times: Doc used stem cells to treat Bartolo Colon&#8217;s injured shoulder</title>
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		<title>By: bigtrav425</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is why stem cell research is necessary and why hgh is not a  bad thing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is why stem cell research is necessary and why hgh is not a  bad thing!</p>
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		<title>By: phukyouk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phukyouk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 16:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[they can even be used to build a Shakeys...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they can even be used to build a Shakeys&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: trevorb06</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 14:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does this mean Jamie Moyer must eat embreyos everyday for breakfast?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this mean Jamie Moyer must eat embreyos everyday for breakfast?</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t have to get fetal cells from a fetus. There&#039;s tons in placentas and umbilical cords after a normal delivery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to get fetal cells from a fetus. There&#8217;s tons in placentas and umbilical cords after a normal delivery.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Think of stem cells as generic cells, like a lego block. They&#039;ll turn into whatever the body needs them to turn into, providing they get the right stimulus to do so. They don&#039;t really increase strength but they can return you to a strong state by fixing an injury and without the scar tissue (see Kendreys Morales for why you might want that). 

HGH, combined with insulin and anabolic steroids can dramatically increase your size and strength (Bonds was on this regime) but on their own simply promote growth of tissue; you still scar but the injury heals faster.

Combine the 2 and you see where this might be something any person would want.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think of stem cells as generic cells, like a lego block. They&#8217;ll turn into whatever the body needs them to turn into, providing they get the right stimulus to do so. They don&#8217;t really increase strength but they can return you to a strong state by fixing an injury and without the scar tissue (see Kendreys Morales for why you might want that). </p>
<p>HGH, combined with insulin and anabolic steroids can dramatically increase your size and strength (Bonds was on this regime) but on their own simply promote growth of tissue; you still scar but the injury heals faster.</p>
<p>Combine the 2 and you see where this might be something any person would want.</p>
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		<title>By: droogleeddie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[droogleeddie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am really curious where this falls in comparison to using HGH to recover from injury... As a Yankee fan, I hope it does not compare, because Colon has helped save what could have been a disasterous rotation.  

I am the furthest thing from a doctor/scientist, so this may be a stupid question, but are stem cells capable of increasing strength?  Or were they used to simply repair damaged tissue?  I assume the latter because the article states they were used to repair ligament damage... just curious as to the capabilities of stem cells in this regard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really curious where this falls in comparison to using HGH to recover from injury&#8230; As a Yankee fan, I hope it does not compare, because Colon has helped save what could have been a disasterous rotation.  </p>
<p>I am the furthest thing from a doctor/scientist, so this may be a stupid question, but are stem cells capable of increasing strength?  Or were they used to simply repair damaged tissue?  I assume the latter because the article states they were used to repair ligament damage&#8230; just curious as to the capabilities of stem cells in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Rooster Amaro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rooster Amaro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Visnovsky:  Conservatives have always been vocally pro-adult stem cell research.  It&#039;s fetal stem cell research they&#039;re against.  This is something the Republicans would use to say &quot;Look, we don&#039;t have to be using fetuses to accomplish medical success, we can just use our own, self-produced stem cells&quot;

Not trying to start a political debate here, but wanted to clear some facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visnovsky:  Conservatives have always been vocally pro-adult stem cell research.  It&#8217;s fetal stem cell research they&#8217;re against.  This is something the Republicans would use to say &#8220;Look, we don&#8217;t have to be using fetuses to accomplish medical success, we can just use our own, self-produced stem cells&#8221;</p>
<p>Not trying to start a political debate here, but wanted to clear some facts.</p>
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		<title>By: visnovsky</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 08:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I lean republican, but the restrictions on stem cell research are retarded.  And there I go offending retards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lean republican, but the restrictions on stem cell research are retarded.  And there I go offending retards.</p>
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		<title>By: fengypants</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fengypants]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 07:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh-oh, here come the &quot;PIONEERING FAT AND BONE MARROW STEM CELL TREATMENT THAT FALLS INTO A GRAY AREA&quot; chants at Fenway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh-oh, here come the &#8220;PIONEERING FAT AND BONE MARROW STEM CELL TREATMENT THAT FALLS INTO A GRAY AREA&#8221; chants at Fenway.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 04:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Colon was treated with HIS OWN stem cells so he wasn&#039;t doping or using a steroids. Its known as &#039;autologous stem cell transplantation&quot;.

As an undergrad I spent over a year working in a joint replacement clinic and auto-stem cell treatment was something we talked a lot about. In a previous post I mentioned the use of HGH in healing joint damage. There is enough reason to pursue BOTH kinds of treatments for professional athletes, not to mention the general public. Animal studies are very encouraging. 

We as consumers of medical care need to get away from the knee jerk assumption that hormone or infusion treatments are automatically cheating. After all, you can get your eyes laser corrected, cochlear implants, and titanium joint resurfacing; none of which are illegal and all of which improve your condition to a pre-injury status. In fact, in the case of eye surgery, you might be better than the way you were born. Is that cheating? It certainly is an enhancement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colon was treated with HIS OWN stem cells so he wasn&#8217;t doping or using a steroids. Its known as &#8216;autologous stem cell transplantation&#8221;.</p>
<p>As an undergrad I spent over a year working in a joint replacement clinic and auto-stem cell treatment was something we talked a lot about. In a previous post I mentioned the use of HGH in healing joint damage. There is enough reason to pursue BOTH kinds of treatments for professional athletes, not to mention the general public. Animal studies are very encouraging. </p>
<p>We as consumers of medical care need to get away from the knee jerk assumption that hormone or infusion treatments are automatically cheating. After all, you can get your eyes laser corrected, cochlear implants, and titanium joint resurfacing; none of which are illegal and all of which improve your condition to a pre-injury status. In fact, in the case of eye surgery, you might be better than the way you were born. Is that cheating? It certainly is an enhancement.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dangerous Mabry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dangerous Mabry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 03:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Corticosteroids (the kind you&#039;d have been putting in your eye) aren&#039;t related to anabolic steroids in any meaningful way.  Athletes receive &quot;cortisone shots&quot; (i.e., injections of corticosteroids) all the time, and they&#039;re perfectly within the law and rules of the sport.  &quot;Steroids&quot; as in &quot;the big ugly thing that everyone says killed baseball&quot; refers to anabolic steroids.  (for reference, see an article such as http://arthritis.about.com/od/steroids/f/anabolicsteroid.htm)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corticosteroids (the kind you&#8217;d have been putting in your eye) aren&#8217;t related to anabolic steroids in any meaningful way.  Athletes receive &#8220;cortisone shots&#8221; (i.e., injections of corticosteroids) all the time, and they&#8217;re perfectly within the law and rules of the sport.  &#8220;Steroids&#8221; as in &#8220;the big ugly thing that everyone says killed baseball&#8221; refers to anabolic steroids.  (for reference, see an article such as <a href="http://arthritis.about.com/od/steroids/f/anabolicsteroid.htm" rel="nofollow">http://arthritis.about.com/od/steroids/f/anabolicsteroid.htm</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: xmatt0926x</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Makes sense. Bartolo Colon at the forefront of breakthrough treatment using stem cells yet he hasn&#039;t figured out the delicate balance of caloric intake and a gigantic belly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense. Bartolo Colon at the forefront of breakthrough treatment using stem cells yet he hasn&#8217;t figured out the delicate balance of caloric intake and a gigantic belly.</p>
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		<title>By: natstowngreg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[natstowngreg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 02:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It might be legal, but does it pass MLB muster? 

For example, I&#039;ve had 4 operations on one eye (for a retina detachment and other problems). After each operation, I was prescribed eye drops that had steroids in them. Perfectly legal, but I was taking an MLB-banned substance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be legal, but does it pass MLB muster? </p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;ve had 4 operations on one eye (for a retina detachment and other problems). After each operation, I was prescribed eye drops that had steroids in them. Perfectly legal, but I was taking an MLB-banned substance.</p>
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		<title>By: phukyouk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phukyouk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 02:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ok.... NOW he&#039;s not making into the Hall...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok&#8230;. NOW he&#8217;s not making into the Hall&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: drunkenhooliganism</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drunkenhooliganism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 02:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the New York Times question people, do HIPAA laws go out the window?  

This seems like an awesome procedure.  And as a guy who is at the forefront* of Cystic Fibrosis research, this is stuff I&#039;ve heard about for years.  But I still see this as a positive step to better medicine for everyone.

*I participate in walks and stuff]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the New York Times question people, do HIPAA laws go out the window?  </p>
<p>This seems like an awesome procedure.  And as a guy who is at the forefront* of Cystic Fibrosis research, this is stuff I&#8217;ve heard about for years.  But I still see this as a positive step to better medicine for everyone.</p>
<p>*I participate in walks and stuff</p>
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		<title>By: aceshigh11</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aceshigh11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 01:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s pretty amazing.

So he&#039;s basically the Six Million Dollar Man?

I guess he looks a little like Lee Majors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty amazing.</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s basically the Six Million Dollar Man?</p>
<p>I guess he looks a little like Lee Majors.</p>
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