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Tony La Russa responds to criticism from Reds broadcaster Marty Brennaman

May 17, 2011, 10:35 PM EDT

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Thinking the Reds-Cardinals rivalry could use some more juice? Me neither. But this will certainly kick things up a notch.

Reds broadcaster Marty Brennaman was highly critical of the Cardinals on Monday, one day after the Reds completed a three-game sweep of their division rivals. Among other things, Brennaman┬ácalled Sunday’s starter Chris Carpenter a “whiner and excuse-maker” while describing Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan as “infantile” for yelling at Reds closer Francisco Cordero after he hit Albert Pujols with a pitch.

Cardinals manager Tony La Russa was away from the team during the series because a case of shingles, but told the Associated Press┬átoday that he didn’t appreciate Brennaman’s commentary.

“He earned the right to get into the Hall of Fame,” La Russa said. “And now he ought to keep earning that respect instead of abusing it.”

The Cardinals and Reds won’t meet again until until a three-game series beginning July 4 in St. Louis. Don’t worry, they’ll bring the fireworks.

  1. kmgannon - May 17, 2011 at 11:17 PM

    This is fantastic. Baseball needs a rivalry like this. Plus, LaRussa and the Cards annoy me to no end, so I’m with the Reds here. Though, in fairness, every time I listen to Marty Brennaman, he’s moved more and more into grumpy, “get off my lawn” territory.

  2. goldensombrero3000 - May 17, 2011 at 11:32 PM

    Marty should abuse it and make the Hall of Fame a joke so Pete can get in.

    • giboxer5 - May 18, 2011 at 11:22 AM

      Well, Pete should be in before once steroid now HGH pumping Albert does. At least Pete’s numbers were 100% clean. BTW, how many wins would Larussa actually have had he not been handing out steroids in Oakland and HGH in St. Louis?? TONY is the REAL face of the steroid era.

  3. goldensombrero3000 - May 18, 2011 at 12:06 AM

    Do people root for violence? I remember watching the brawl on FSN last year and I freaked out thinking about people getting hurt. It was a really stressfull moment. Cueto freaked out and acted inappropiately and unfortunately Jason LaRue got hurt. Chris Carpenter didn’t get hurt, he’s a whiny loser. I just find it uncomfortable seeing things like this. I’d rather see this “rivalry” be settled in between the lines. It would be unethical to make my dumbass “nba sexiness” co-workers tune into baseball for the wrong reasons. There isn’t an nba team in Cincinnati. Probably didn’t need to tell you that.

    • paperlions - May 18, 2011 at 7:35 AM

      Actually, Carpenter was kicked in the back several times by Cueto opening several gashes. He didn’t go on the DL, but he did get hurt.

      • giboxer5 - May 18, 2011 at 11:25 AM

        LIE!! SITE YOUR SOURCE. It never happened. Trust me, I’d have a poster of it on my wall!! Little Miss Priss Kristina Carpender was the one who escalated the entire situation, I totally wish he was the one catching cleats to the head. Larue was actually a class guy, he clearly hadn’t been with the Cards long.

      • paperlions - May 18, 2011 at 12:35 PM

        At the 3: 25 mark:

      • cur68 - May 18, 2011 at 12:37 PM

        giboxer5; how ’bout you cite (note the spelling of ‘cite’ there sport) your sources for all of your steroid claims?

  4. okwhitefalcon - May 18, 2011 at 12:18 AM

    The audio of this is flat out hysterical – sounds like ol’ Marty didn’t get his pregame nap.

  5. Mr. Furious - May 18, 2011 at 6:53 AM

    He earned the right to get into the Hall of Fame? Weird, I don’t see him on the list of inductees. He won the Frick Award (in 2000 or 2001, I think?), but Frick honorees aren’t Hall of Famers.

    • giboxer5 - May 18, 2011 at 11:25 AM

      Go educate yourself before showing your IQ to the world..

  6. paperlions - May 18, 2011 at 7:39 AM

    Brennaman has never been a distinguished broadcaster, and he’s been all kinds of horrible for quite some time now. They now give the FF Award to guys for simply having been around a long time. Sometimes there are no worthy recipients, so you shouldn’t give out the award, doing so only diminishes the prestige of the honor. Giving announcers like this guy the award is like electing Julio Franco to the HOF for having a long career. Career length does not equal greatness….it just means you haven’t died yet.

    • paperlions - May 18, 2011 at 9:11 AM

      I’m sorry, but Brennaman is just a horrible announcer. Brennaman doesn’t enhance the viewing experience and you won’t learn anything about baseball from him. The Cardinal announcer are horrible, so I typically choose the other teams broadcast when I watch games (and I actually watch a lot of non-Cardinal games as well), the Reds have always been one of the exceptions, the Diamondbacks are another, as were the Nats when Dibble was there and the White Sox.

  7. volsforever - May 18, 2011 at 7:52 AM

    The Reds broadcaster is as classless as their fans are.

  8. roadwearyaaron - May 18, 2011 at 8:10 AM

    During last night’s broadcast, Marty was talking about how proud he was that a Cardinals blog (On The Outside Corner) named him the clown of the week. He basically said he loves it and wears it as a badge of honor. He later went on to mention some of the great clowns of the past. I found it quite funny and entertaining.

  9. schmedley69 - May 18, 2011 at 8:49 AM

    The Cardinals fans were booing their own players again last night. I thought that kind of thing didn’t happen in baseball heaven? Animals!!!

    • paperlions - May 18, 2011 at 9:08 AM

      Yes, they booed a run scoring as a result of Tyler Greene dropping an easy pop-up at second. They generally don’t boo sucking that can’t be helped because…you know…the guys isn’t any good….they boo inexcusable sucking or lack of hustle (unless that lack of hustle involve Molina or Pujols jogging to 1st as a double play is turned, that they should boo but don’t…though there will be grumbling).

  10. technomatt1 - May 18, 2011 at 9:56 AM

    Marty is one of the best because he understands that his job is not to be objective, but to entertain. I’ve always thought an unofficial MLB radio broadcast by a couple of diligent, knowledgeable, and crass fans would have an immense following. Marty rubs up against that line on a nightly basis – and is always fun to listen to.

    If you are listening to sports on the radio, you won’t listen to an equivalent of Charlie Rose, you want personality, flash, controversy, and most of all subjectivity. Patrick, Cowherd, Mad Dog Russo, and Rome are who we all want to hear, and their ratings bear that out. Marty knows this, and executes his brand, and the Reds’ brand well on a nightly basis for half the year.

    • cintiphil - May 18, 2011 at 10:40 AM

      Guess what? You are wrong for the reasons you spouted. An announcer is not supposed to get in the game, that is for the players on the field. He is a homer, and that is fine here in Cinti. I understand that he should be making comments, but to try to stir up the pot is not his job. He should keep quiet off the field and not try to create some sort of hatred between the teams. And guess what? His son is worse. I know how he got a job, with daddy helping him out, but he is so unqualified to be an announcer it is not funny. Last night, he called two plays before the ump called them, and guess what? He was wrong. then he tried to justify his call by saying it looked to me he was out, or he should have been out or it should have been a strike or whatever the situation was. Thom does this game after game, apparently with no repercussions. I think that is why Fox uses him sparingly. And the worse thing about him is his stupid falsetto voice he uses to try to sound like a grown up man.

      It doesn’t matter who is right or wrong, but what matters is what role should an announcer play and what he should not play. Getting involved in fights between teams is not his role. For Marty, what now is he to do when he asks for in interview with Carpenter or TLR? Is he going to make an apology first, or get in their face further? He just put himself into a very bad light with other players and managers, making his real job of announcing much harder.

    • cur68 - May 18, 2011 at 10:45 AM

      tech; I agree. I like an announcer that shows some flair and chutzpah while announcing. The Blue Jays use Buck Martinez and Pat Tabler and, while both guys have pretty grating voices, they spend a lot of time making fun of how awful they were as hitters and how they might have fared against a current pitcher. In fact, they were at their absolute best with this schtick when the Jays went up against the Rangers and they were recounting their recollections of facing Nolan Ryan. Pat Tabler has the best whiskey laugh in all MLB broadcasting.

      Brennamn isn’t everybody’s cup of tea, but give the devil his due; he makes a lot of news and creates some neat sound bites.

      • cintiphil - May 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM

        The comments by Brennaman are totally inappropriate, as he is critical only of the Cardinals players and coaches. Dusty Baker is in the face of umps as much as any other manager in the game. Marty is not critical of that. If he was consistent, he would call out all of the players and managers who complain about calls on the field. But it is justified in Marty’s eyes if the Reds are doing it. Baker and players complain a lot during the games when they feel a wrong call is made. And that is OK by me if done by the players. A case in point now is that they (father & son) are saying that Cueto was only defending himself by kicking Carpenter in the back & LaRue in the face with his cleats. Why do you have to defend yourself against a guy with his back to you? And why do you have to try to kill someone in this type of sissy fight? Almost no one gets injured in the typical baseball pushing and shoving melee, until some nut like Cueto starts with the violent stuff. Why not pull out a gun or knife and really get into it? There is or never was a place for this in baseball. Marty and Son should not excuse it. Cueto was not defending himself. He was trying to do great physical damage to another player. That is the sin…

  11. metalhead65 - May 18, 2011 at 10:18 AM

    the bottom line his Marty is right. whenever they play the reds win or lose they find something to whine about. last year carpenter whined about the condition of the baseballs even as he continued his domination of the reds. did any other pitcher say anything about them? larussa accused Arroyo of cheating everytime they played win or lose. did amybody else who played the reds? the answer of course is no on both counts. this year carpenter whined about the mound,the same mound Travis Wood pitched on that night and if that was not enough he whined about the smoke from the fireworks after a home run. pretty sure I have not heard anybody else whine about that. then you had the cards hitting Ryan Hannigan fri nite in the first game of the series causing him to miss the next 2 games. did he or the reds scream from the dugout?anybody make accusations about it after the game?the answer is no. but when a reds pitcher hits albert at a time he can least afford to,thier pitching coach of all people and a guy who doesn’t play are sceaming at him from the bench during and after the game. the acting mgr. has to take the larussa role and say it is always something when you play them. he is right it is, by them! if that is not an example of whining I do not know what is.

  12. The Baseball Idiot - May 18, 2011 at 12:15 PM

    I guess when you have the most World Series championships of all the teams in the National League, you can afford to be a little arrogant at times.

    I realize the Reds won one or two, but the Cardinals actually won theirs on the field, and not because the other team laid down for the money.

    • bovice23 - May 18, 2011 at 12:26 PM

      The Cards have won 4 titles in the past 50 years, the reds have won 3. Your franchise is not that great. Well except at complaining, you guys are in a league of your own at that.

      • okwhitefalcon - May 18, 2011 at 1:32 PM

        So you’re truncating a time frame to suit your stance, how convenient.

        Love ’em or hate ’em, the Cards are the winningest franchise in National League history – period.

        Moving on..

        Carpenter is a handful – competitive to Cards fans and a tantrum thrower to others.
        Brennaman is an icon to Reds fans, utter buffoon to others.

        For anyone to deny Queto’s cowardly kicking ENDED Jason LaRue’s career is living in absolute denial. With LaRue being a beloved former Red, I would think both Reds fans and Cardinal fans alike would agree Johnny get his due, one directly in the ear courtesy of LaRue’s best friend, competitive whiner Chris Carpenter.

        Nothing was going to happen this past weekend with Don Tony not being present, that was a given.

        The July 4th weekend should be interesting, I would assume innocent bystander Joey Votto will get one in the ribs as retribution for going high and tight to Albert as well..

      • cur68 - May 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM

        No plunking Canadians!

        Actually Votto’s pretty safe to plunk; he’d just apologize for being in the way. Deep sigh. But its still wrong.

      • cintiphil - May 18, 2011 at 2:26 PM

        Think about your comment. Why do we praise the exploits of the former Reds who did great things like Johnny Vandemere and others? Your analysis it totally stupid. I am one of the few Reds fans who are totally embarrassed by exploits of Rose and this nut Cueto. Get it straight. We don’t want a Giants Dodgers type of fan hatred.

  13. metalhead65 - May 18, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    you still son’t get it and that is why reds fans hate the cards.hitting albert was totaly unintentional but votto or somebody will pay for it the next series? so what you are saying is it was ok for hannigan to be hit because that’s baseball but hitting king albert in that situation was on purpose? that shows that you know nothing about baseball and are a whiner just like your team! I gave you examples of what makes you guys and carpenter in particular whiny bitches but you can’t defend them so you fall back on the brawl from a year ago or slam the reds announcer,typical cardinal whiny bitch.

    • okwhitefalcon - May 18, 2011 at 3:29 PM

      I have no doubt Cordero wasn’t trying to hit Albert, it makes no sense.

      That said, if you’re gonna go high and tight you better know where it’s going and if it does get away, someone’s gonna get one in the ribs to even up.

      That’s baseball policing itself, always been that way and always will.

      I still see you refuse to acknowledge Queto ENDED Jason LaRue’s career, why is that?

      As I’ve said before, the Reds seem to be a classy bunch for the most part – well, less Queto and now the crazy, old broom stick waving announcer…

      • metalhead65 - May 18, 2011 at 5:15 PM

        no that is not baseball you moron! it evens out when you get hit on purpose,and it ws not even that far inside!maybe if he was not leaning in he could have avoided it. go on and hit votto on purpose and see what happens. only this time try not pin anybody against the wall so they have kick thier out of it. face the reds are no longer your bitches and will not vack to your whiny ones. to bad about larue but let’s face it he was not an all time great and probly would have been vut before the season ended. he would not have neen kicked if your cowerdly boys had not put him up against the wall and beat on him.

      • cur68 - May 18, 2011 at 5:22 PM

        WTF was all that? Do you even read this stuff before you post it metalhead65? Please repost that lot so I can figure out WTF you are talking about. Actually don’t bother; I’m sure that’s as coherent as you get and fixing your typos would only reveal more about you than you’d care to have known or I would care to know about you.

        Do go have a nice lie down in the shade; clearly you’ve been in the strong sunlight too long. There’s a good chap.

  14. okwhitefalcon - May 18, 2011 at 6:16 PM

    From what I can decipher, I think metalhead just went anonymous message board name calling guy.


    Let’s summarize..

    Baseball has never policed itself with one equal value player getting drilled as retribution for another getting hit, purposeful or not.

    The pile that drove Johnny Queto to intentionally kick Jason LaRue in the head ending his career prematurely was soley Cardinal driven.

    It’s fine that LaRue didn’t have the opportunity to go out on his own terms because “he was not an all time great and probly would have been vut before the season ended”? (I had to go with the quote from metalhead, apologies to those who speak and read english as their main language.)

    Dude, your shoe size is probably somewhere north of your baseball acumen.

    I think there’s a very good chance we maybe dealing with the bastard son of Marty Brennaman and the family maid…

    ^^Not so veiled reference to Arnold and his out of wedlock activity although the comparison might be a bit harsh on Arnold’s newly discovered offspring, he’s only 10 and all…

    • metalhead65 - May 18, 2011 at 7:58 PM

      ok using your logic wouldn’t hitting Albert even things up for Hannigan? according to your logic then nobody else has to hit the next time they play correct? if you are going to try and “even” things up for the brawl shouldn”t that have already happened by now? did they not play each other again after it last year? have they not played 2 series this year? and they did face Cueto this past series and did nothing to him and only scored any runs due to reds errors. so to say they will wait until July is just wrong by baseball policing standards and if they do hit somebody on the reds they will be starting more trouble. and know reds fans are not happy Larue had his career ended but are just sick of hearing about you cards fans whining about it!

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