Comments on: Mariano Rivera becomes 15th pitcher in MLB history to make 1,000 appearances http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: yankeesjetsknicksrangers http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/comment-page-1/#comment-141698 Wed, 25 May 2011 22:43:27 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=59676#comment-141698 Fatso said on WFAN that he was the first to do it with the same team. Any-who thanks Mo.

]]> By: jwbiii http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/comment-page-1/#comment-141682 Wed, 25 May 2011 22:13:44 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=59676#comment-141682 Valid points. But if Farnsworth lasts the five years or so it will take him get to 1,000 games, I’ll bet there will be some drop in his effectiveness.

]]> By: buddaley http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/comment-page-1/#comment-141674 Wed, 25 May 2011 21:56:59 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=59676#comment-141674 Maybe. But if the measurement is ERA+ he has at least as good a chance to be far better. Since 2005, his ERA+/year have been 197, 104, 95, 101, 97, 124 and currently 222. In two cases, he was traded mid-year when he had an excellent ERA+ and fell off dramatically in less than half the innings for his new team. To wit, in 2008 he was dealt from NY to Detroit when his ERA+ was 124 in 44.1 innings, but he flopped in his 16 innings in Detroit with a 68 ERA+ that dropped his overall number dramatically. And again, in 2010, he was running a 174 ERA+ after 44.2 innings with KC but his last 20 innings in Atlanta it fell to 74. There is some evidence that the addition of an effective cutter may have made him a more consistently effective pitcher.

There are more significant ways to measure the worth of a reliever, but if the standard is ERA+ as used here, Farnsworth has a chance to be at least middle of the pack in the 1000 appearance club.

]]> By: sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/comment-page-1/#comment-141667 Wed, 25 May 2011 21:41:33 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=59676#comment-141667 A stat is a stat, but it seems wrong for lefty specialists to appear on this list mixes with the likes of Mariano and Gossage. I’d love to see the total innings pitched alongside these numbers. The guys who do it 1/3 at a time had it pretty easy…

]]> By: jwbiii http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/comment-page-1/#comment-141645 Wed, 25 May 2011 21:01:02 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=59676#comment-141645 Kyle Farnsworth is at 733 games, so he could wind up as the worst pitcher with 1,000.

]]> By: kopy http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/25/mariano-rivera-becomes-15th-pitcher-in-mlb-history-to-make-1000-appearances/comment-page-1/#comment-141637 Wed, 25 May 2011 20:47:19 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=59676#comment-141637 I guess the reason why he’s so popular is because all of his appearances are so fashionably late!

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