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UPDATE: Buster Posey is out for the year with a fractured bone “in his lower left leg”

May 26, 2011, 1:47 PM EDT

Scott Cousins, Buster Posey AP

UPDATE: Posey has officially been diagnosed with a fractured left fibula and “severely strained” ligaments in his left ankle. It may be a longshot, but he could return later this season.

UPDATE: Now the Giants are terming it a fractured bone “in his lower left leg.”  Depending on your definition of leg, that could include the ankle. Although at the moment it hardly seems to matter. Why? Because the Giants are now confirming that Posey is out for the year.

UPDATE: Mychael Urban of CSN Bay Area updates the earlier report, noting that the information about Posey’s broken bone — an ankle, not the leg — is based on x-rays performed at the park which revealed the fracture. The ligament tears are not yet confirmed, but will be looked at in today’s MRI.  Earlier today Brian Sabean said of Amy Gutierrez’s report (below) that “it’s probably half right.”  My guess is that he knows about the broken bone part but is unwilling to say anything about the ligaments until later.

11:30 AM: As I watched the Buster Posey play this morning I thought “man, he’s gonna have a broken leg. Or maybe some torn ligaments.”  Of course those things aren’t mutually-exclusive, which is something we learned from CSN Bay Area’s Amy Gutierrez moments ago: Posey has a broken leg and torn ligaments. As everyone has been saying all morning: not good. It’s hard to see how his season isn’t over.

In response to Posey’s imminent trip to the DL, and Darren Ford‘s trip to the DL announced yesterday, Gutierrez reports that the Giants have called up Chris Stewart and Brandon Belt.  Stewart fills the catching hole.  Belt is the hope to fill in for the offense that Posey would almost certainly have been producing soon.

A bad scene for Buster Posey and the Giants. An opportunity for Brandon Belt. But one that no one, including Belt himself, likely wanted to have happen under these circumstances.

  1. buckybadger - May 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM

    Sorry to hear this. Young promising player will now have to prove all over again he can come back and be the player he was. Even as a Rockies fan I am disappointed to hear this.

    Don’t think the rule has to change however. Maybe enforced better but not changed. Than again what do I know, my primary sports are boxing and football.

    • sometimesphylan - May 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM

      I don’t think there is a rule problem here, catchers just shouldn’t be blocking the plate when they don’t have the ball, or this will inevitably happen.

      • heynerdlinger - May 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM

        Watch the video. Posey is not blocking the plate when he gets flattened.

      • buckybadger - May 26, 2011 at 12:32 PM

        How is not blocking the plate? He doesn’t even catch the ball and after he drops it he turns into the base line.

      • jimbo1949 - May 26, 2011 at 12:41 PM

        bucky, his entire body is forward of the plate and onto the infield surface with plenty of room to slide and touch home plate. Cousins goes for a knockout instead of the score, dirty play.

      • marshmallowsnake - May 26, 2011 at 1:09 PM

        He was not blocking the plate, but he was at the same time. Let me explain…

        He thought he had the ball…he turned to make the tag and get in front of the runner, which is allowed if he has the ball…so in that aspect, he did not think he blocking the plate…however…

        He did not catch the ball, so in fact, he was blocking the plate.

        Now, the bigger issue on my end here, is the way that the runner went in. He should have slid feet first instead of lowering his head and shoulder and trying to run through the catcher. At least make an attempt to slide!

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:14 PM

        If he goes in feet first and Posey catches the ball, he’s probably out

      • bdavis68 - May 26, 2011 at 1:21 PM

        heynerdlinger is right he is not blocking the plate and even when he turns back twords the baseline he still is not in the runers way it was not necessary for him to go in like he did he didnt even make an attempt to touch the base he when in like that just to hit Posey.

      • marshmallowsnake - May 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

        No..if he goes in feet first, he is still safe as Posey did not have the ball.

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:50 PM

        Which is why it says “if Posey catches the ball” since, ya know, none of us could know he was going to drop the ball. Maybe next time Cousins will fire up his DeLorean so he can re-do it.

      • jeffbbf - May 26, 2011 at 6:51 PM

        jimbo, et al; Posey was not blocking the baseline, but he was blocking the base. The baseline runs on the outside edge of the plate. Posey’s leg was in between Cousins and the middle of the plate. To say Posey was in fair territory, and thus not blocking the plate, is just incorrect. Home plate is fair territory. Cousins is aiming for the middle of the plate. Posey’s positioning forced Cousins to make a decision to either go through Posey or try to go around him and hook the plate. The 2nd option is no sure thing – if you’ve played the game you’d know that it is a difficult maneuver.

      • gowhitten - May 30, 2011 at 1:35 PM

        You should always slide into home plate ahnds first so you ahve a chance to avoid a tag. Sliding in feet first you have zero control (and bigger target).

    • The Dangerous Mabry - May 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM

      Just remember, in neither of those sports is it expected for a player to stand still and wait while someone running with a full head of steam is allowed to pummel them to try to knock a ball out of their hands. Think of the “fair catch” rule in football. Take that away, and the guy receiving a punt is now in a similar boat as an MLB catcher on a play at the plate.

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 11:59 AM

        QBs are expected to stand in the pocket and take hits all the time. While they don’t always stand still, they have to take vicious hits while delivering the ball multiple times every week. And they get blindsided far more than any MLB catcher.

      • saltwatertrout - May 26, 2011 at 12:06 PM

        As soon as the punt returner touches the ball he can be hit, often without even seeing the guy coming at him whose been running at top speed for 30 yards or more. Posey had touched the ball before he was hit. Pretty similar circumstances.

      • buckybadger - May 26, 2011 at 12:34 PM

        So what is your suggestion? The guy at home run around the catcher? That is the problem. There is a chance for a dangerous collision but there isn’t a great alternative. The baseline is there for the runner and he has the right to it.

      • nightman13 - May 26, 2011 at 12:57 PM

        @ nps6724

        QB’s have pads and the defender doesn’t hit them with a 30 yard head start at a dead sprint. I understand the reference you are trying to make but I think they are two entirely different circumstances even though they share similarities.

      • bdavis68 - May 26, 2011 at 1:23 PM

        Football players have alot more pads and their pads are made to take an impact

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:25 PM

        Football players also take multiple shots per game as hard or harder than yjr one Posey took while the average MLB catcher gets hit, what, maybe twice a month?

        And it’s not like catchers are unprotected. Otherwise all those foul balls off them would put them out of games daily.

      • bdavis68 - May 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM

        dont forget in the NFL it is a penalty and you will probably get fined if you hit a player on the ground like that

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:37 PM

        Except he wasn’t really “on the ground”; one knee touched the ground and only because he was trying to tag a runner. He would have no reason to do that in a football game, thus hitting him would be legal.

      • bdavis68 - May 26, 2011 at 1:50 PM

        ok so you have no clue about football rules is what you are telling me? In football it is an illegal hit if you hit someone who is on the ground!! The argument here is that football players can take hits but football players dont get hit when they are on the ground also football players wear pads that absorbe the hit more.

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:53 PM

        But he wasn’t down, negating your statement. He was down AFTER the hit, not before. One knee down doesn’t make you down since in the NFL you can get back up. You are thinking of college rules.

      • bdavis68 - May 26, 2011 at 1:54 PM

        Oh and watch it again his knee is “on the ground” and when the impact happend both of his knees were on the ground.

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:58 PM

        He wouldn’t be ruled down in any professional football game, period. One knee down does not constitute a play being over unless you are giving yourself up (which wouldn’t apply in this case). And since he was hit almost immediately upon his knee hitting the ground, no ref is going to throw a flag since Cousins would have had no time to redirect himself. Cousins took one step after Posey’s knee hits the ground.

        So again, your whining about it being illegal is wrong whether discussing baseball or football rules.

      • lakesidelakersfan - May 26, 2011 at 9:39 PM

        Make it that the runner can’t hit the catcher until he has the ball. This at least will give the catcher a chance to brace himself, and even give a shot.If the catcher blocks the path without the ball, the run scores anyway.

      • nps6724 - May 27, 2011 at 12:20 AM

        So you make it so the runner is basically guaranteed to be out. Because if fielders know they can’t run until the catcher has the ball, they will make more careful throws home. And how exactly do you expect runners to do all that as they’re running full speed?

    • lust4kix - May 26, 2011 at 1:46 PM

      Cousins went from outside the foul line to onto the field of play, inside the 3rd baseline, a then put a malicious hit on Posey, leading with his shoulder football style. He ought to be suspended for as long as Posey is out. He should have been called out and ejected! It’s baseball, not football! It’s time to put an end to this type of dirty play.

      • hernanferrea - May 26, 2011 at 6:57 PM

        What about the 2003 NLCS (game 5) when J.T. Snows slams on Pudge Rodriguez for the last out of the series????

        http://www.bobrosato.com/#/collisions/pudge-collision

        This, as painful as it is, is baseball, and those are the risks that you take when you wear a uniform. Otherwise, play domino or chess, that are safer……

  2. bigxrob - May 26, 2011 at 11:37 AM

    That sucks. Is it too much of a leap to say his career as a catcher is in jeopardy? Santana is catching again for the Indians, but I can’t remember if he broke his leg, tore ligaments or both.

  3. BaseballTown - May 26, 2011 at 11:44 AM

    Amy G on radio in Bay Area saying broken ankle. Not broken leg as she Tweeted. Still horrible news.

    • cur68 - May 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM

      Be better if it was a tib/fib. Busted thru the ankle and it’s a long way back from there. See Kendreys Morales. Ligaments and the like could also include the knee, but definitely the ankle. From the angle; it’s a dislocation of the ankle, break is likely going to be at the end of the tibia. He is might be done as a catcher. Damn shame.

      Cousins had no call to roll the kid. He had a clear path to the plate. He oughta be fined and suspended for this.

      • Old Gator - May 26, 2011 at 11:52 AM

        Watch the play again in slo-mo. Posey was in the process of shifting to his left to cover the plate when Cousins hit him and Cousins crossed directly over the plate during the collision. It was a completely clean play; the unfortunate part was where Posey had his legs placed.

      • cur68 - May 26, 2011 at 12:31 PM

        Did watch the play Gator. He could have slid ’round the kid. Had tons of room. The rule is the fielder without the ball can’t block and the runner can’t interfere. Posey had a leg in the path, no ball. Cousins is just inside the line, lining up Posey, not outside the line at all. Sure they slide across the plate; the deflection of hitting 220lbs of catcher takes them across it. The point is Cousins could have been safe going wide and swiping the plate. He risked both of them doing what he did. What if he’d broken his shoulder? Neither of them is wearing any padding.

      • drmonkeyarmy - May 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM

        Just watched the play….He could have and probably should have slid around Posey. There was plenty of the plate showing. There was no reason to bowl him over. Cur68 is right.

      • Old Gator - May 26, 2011 at 4:04 PM

        Sorry guys, look yet again. He’s coming full tilt boogie with his head down and upper body angled forward – same way we’d all run hard at something – by the time the ball actually enters his approximate field of vision. Try running fult tilt head down at a target ten feet away and then suddenly reconfigure your posture for a slide. You’d be in traction with three popped disks in your lower back even if you could manage the maneuver.

        As far as using his shoulder, of course he used it. Asking him not to would be like asking your pet triceratops to use his asshole instead of his frill when he collides with a T-rex.

    • Old Gator - May 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM

      Still horrible? More like worse. Talk about a sophomore jinx. And no, bigxrob, it’s not too much of a leap to say that his career is in jeopardy. Anyone remember Bobby Valentine’s accident?

    • Old Gator - May 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM

      Still horrible? More like worse. Talk about a sophomore jinx. And no, bigxrob, it’s not too much of a leap to say that his career is in jeopardy. Anyone remember Bobby Valentine’s accident?

    • marshmallowsnake - May 26, 2011 at 1:10 PM

      Yeah, it looked like a broken ankle…watch the video and on the last replay of it, in slow motion, Buster’s ankle takes a beating…too bad :(

  4. sdelmonte - May 26, 2011 at 11:48 AM

    Weren’t we just talking about whether Posey should be moved?

    The sound you hear is Mike Rizzo telling his staff to move Bryce Harper to another position.

    • rebarratige - May 26, 2011 at 11:57 AM

      A position other than the outfield?

    • b7p19 - May 26, 2011 at 11:58 AM

      They drafted Harper as an OFer. He was moved before he ever signed a contract.

  5. bringpudgebacktotx - May 26, 2011 at 11:49 AM

    Man, the way his leg and ankle bent back I am shocked his ankle isn’t broken. Poor guy. He has such a promising career ahead of him. I hope this doesn’t de-rail it.

  6. thetid - May 26, 2011 at 11:54 AM

    He put himself in an awful position. Catchers are taught how to safely blick the blate and he didnt do it

    • aceshigh11 - May 26, 2011 at 12:19 PM

      “blick”

      Who the hell are you, the South African immigration officer from Lethal Weapon 2?

      “But…you’re BLICK!”

  7. addictedzone - May 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM

    As a baseball fan I see nothing wrong with the play by either Posey or Cousins. The end result may have been far different though if baseball still taught fundamentals to outfielders preparing to make throws on tag plays. Schierholtz made the initial catch on his non throwing side making the play far closer than it should have been, and probably giving the Marlins the victory and costing Posey the season.

    The reaction of Cousins as soon as the play ended pretty much said everything we now know today. His reaction was that of someone that heard something snap.

    • mcs7584 - May 26, 2011 at 12:12 PM

      Regardless of how Cousins reacted, a base runner should not be allowed to steamroll the catcher the way he did. From the way he lowered his shoulder, he had every intent of taking Posey out. Perhaps not out for the season, but out on that play. Such plays should be treated like flagrant fouls in the NBA or unnecessary roughness in the NFL. Don’t ban catchers blocking the plate but make it clear that if a base runner does that again, it’s an automatic ejection and, perhaps, suspension and fine.

      I can see the promo for the memoir now: “From ROY and WS champ to … ”

      Just a shame. Hopefully he heals enough to play first base. I doubt he’ll have the speed to even be considered for the OF and if he makes it back and if I’m the Giants, I’m sure as heck not putting him back behind the plate.

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 12:18 PM

        Why would catchers need to block the plate if runners could only slide? And if you make it where runners have to slide into home, you give catchers every incentive to block the plate MORE.

      • buckybadger - May 26, 2011 at 12:37 PM

        So Posey can stand there without the ball? Sorry you stand there without catching the ball you will get steam rolled. Sucks horribly he got hurt but you can’t blame the base runner here.

      • drmonkeyarmy - May 26, 2011 at 1:25 PM

        Posey gave him the outside of the plate. A hook slide and he is in there sans contact. Steamrolling Posey was completely unnecessary and I disdain the Giants.

      • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 1:41 PM

        When Posey first touches the ball, Cousins is right at the start of the circle that encompasses home plate. Posey could’ve easily dove all the way across the plate, negating any hook slide, especially since Posey wasn’t hunkered down in any single spot (giving himself the freedom to move around once the ball is caught).

        And if you re-watch the play, Cousins stays even with the baseline the entire way. The baseline takes him right to where Posey was standing.

        Could Cousins have gone around Posey? Yes. Would it have made it more difficult for Cousins to score? Yes. Did Cousins stay within the baseline? Yes. Cousins was well within his right to bowl him over. It sucks Posey got hurt, but it happens. We don’t need to change rules just because one guy who happens to be a young star in the making gets hurt. When Darin Erstad gave Johnny Estrada a concussion by forearming him in the head, no one demanded a rule change.

      • drmonkeyarmy - May 26, 2011 at 1:47 PM

        NPS,
        I don’t think there should be a rule change, I just think he had room to slide around him which would have made it easier for him to score. You disagree. That’s cool.

  8. SmackSaw - May 26, 2011 at 12:35 PM

    I can’t help but think “Ray Fosse”.

  9. cup0pizza - May 26, 2011 at 12:40 PM

    See ya, chump!

    • cur68 - May 26, 2011 at 12:48 PM

      0pizza; you still suck.

    • bdavis68 - May 26, 2011 at 1:30 PM

      you must be a gay ass dodgers fan

  10. bobulated - May 26, 2011 at 12:58 PM

    This play has become acceptable withing the rules as called, much like a SS or 2B getting hammered on a double play, if the catcher is in the vicinity of the plate and gets hit the umpire is not going to call interference. It’s a terrible blow for Posey and the Giants but I don’t think it was any dirtier than the many other catcher take outs we see.

  11. gogigantos - May 26, 2011 at 1:21 PM

    plate was not blocked half way down the line,, O.G. decision was made to go for the kill, not the plate before the Posey had the ball and turned to make a tag like an infielder there was plenty of plate to get to,, this was ugly stuff,, I remember Pudge sitting on the plate, may be wrong on that, memory cells aren’t what they ever should have been, I also know that J.T. was on his last legs as a player and his dad taught him well to hit guys in the head with your forearms, linebacker was old man Snow? ,, I remember in a fog of clear young cells Pete Rose being wrong about it too,,, On all sides they say this was a clean funeral, said so too for Mr Fosse,, and next time it won’t be any more right

  12. spudchukar - May 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM

    The problem here is that you have to make your decision 10 feet up the line. What you try to judge is the catcher’s reaction to the throw. In this instance, if Posey catches the throw, slides to the outside part of the plate as he is wont to do, he blocks the sliding runner off the plate. What happens here is the ball bounces slightly more to his right than anticipated, which causes Posey to slightly tangle his feet, while reaching for the ball. The collision didn’t really cause the injury as much as Posey getting his spike caught, or foot twisted under him. That is why we call it an accident. It was a freak play. It is very unfortunate to Posey, the Giants, and fans everywhere, especially in San Francisco. But baseball is a violent game at times, the players know this, accept it, and the fans must also.

  13. coryeuc - May 26, 2011 at 2:02 PM

    Obviously what happened to Posey is terrible. The play was clean, and until the rules (or enforcement of the rules) is cleaned up there is really nobody to blame. But one has to wonder what sort of attention the issue would get if the catcher hadn’t been such a young star and reigning ROY. For example, if the teams were reversed. Pat Burrell (unlikely, but its hypothetical) plows into and breaks the leg of John Buck. Scratch that, Buck recently signed a big contract so it might garner a bit more attention. Let’s say Brett Hayes had gotten the start for the Fish, breaks his ankle, and is out for the year. What then?

    Again, this isn’t to say that the hype is overblown. What happened sucks, and we can only hope it never happens again. But you have to wonder how much “concern” over catcher safety from the “media,” and I would expect soon from the league, is more about the specific player involved.

    • coryeuc - May 26, 2011 at 2:03 PM

      And hopefully, it is in fact all genuine and translates into some action or at least a clarification of how the rule ought to be applied.

    • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 2:13 PM

      In 2005, Darin Erstad put his forearm across Johnny Estrada’s head and no one cared.

      Last year, Nyjer Morgan ran into catchers unnecessarily a few times and no one cared. At least not about the catchers, everything focused on what a douche Morgan is.

      If it wasn’t a young star, no one would’ve batted an eye.

      • coryeuc - May 26, 2011 at 2:16 PM

        Hayes actually had his shoulder separated by Morgan in one of those colissions. Led to a big brawl and a glorious clothesline from Gaby Sanchez, but not much concern for catcher safety.

  14. mike105451 - May 26, 2011 at 3:27 PM

    Tough collision to watch…. But that’s MLBaseball as we know it. It’s always been that way!! I’m a huge Little League baseball fan, Coach, and UMPIRE where the rules are different. Per the LL rule book, “contact much be avoided” (by the base runner) in situations like this. It’s a myth that base runners “must slide” at 8 or 12 yrs old, but they “must avoid contact” or they’re automatically out. If they lower their shoulder and run a catcher or 2nd baseman over, it’s probable ejection from me!!!
    “WE” (I guess) want to see if the runner can knock the ball out of the catcher’s glove at the MLB level – we’re all grown men…. It’s not fair in my view, but that’s the rules….

  15. Nick - May 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM

    Posey and Cousins were both playing the game the right way. Cousins could have slid for the plate but then if Posey catches the ball he would have been out. It’s terrible news for all baseball fans but the last thing we need is Bud Selig killing baseball with even more rule changes. Bottom line is that the runner can take out anyone in the base path and, blocking the plate or not, Posey was in the base path.

    Let’s just hope that Posey recovers swiftly and comes back even stronger.

  16. danberman4 - May 26, 2011 at 4:17 PM

    Should the rules be changed to protect catchers? The NCAA already has such a rule in place.

    http://pinetarandbrickbats.blogspot.com/2011/05/excuse-me-i-want-to-score.html

    • Nick - May 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM

      It was a clean hit under NCAA rules as well. It was even clean under park and rec rules. You can’t block the base path without control of the ball. The runner has 3 feet from either side of the baseline that is his to run in and if catchers left this path clear they would not get hit.

  17. djwhite2710 - May 26, 2011 at 5:32 PM

    Nick – Your wrong that this play is legal in NCAA and Park and Rec Rules.

    Only in the MLB can a player attempt to dislodge the ball from a catcher by making contact on purpose to try to dislodge that.

    See the NCAA rule ““If the runner can avoid a collision when the catcher clearly has possession of the ball, the runner is called for interference if he attempts to dislodge the ball without making a bona fide effort to reach the plate” (8-7a; A.R. 1).

    If you pulled what Cousins did in a college game you are out, immediately ejected and immediately involved in the brawl as a result since college, that IS a dirty play in that you are not allowed to do it.

    • Nick - May 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM

      “If the runner can avoid a collision when the catcher clearly has possession of the ball”

      Posey did not have possession of the ball yet he was still in the base path. Also known as being in the way. There was a UT game a few years back in the post season where a runner trucked the catcher while he did not have the ball and it was ruled a clean hit.

      You are always allowed to hit the catcher for being in your way if he does not have the ball.

  18. djwhite2710 - May 26, 2011 at 5:35 PM

    I apologize – here is the rule I meant to refer to…

    “Both NCAA and NFHS rules agree that if the flagrant or malicious contact by the runner was before the runner’s touching the plate, the runner shall be declared out and also ejected from the contest. The ball is dead immediately and all other base runners shall return to the bases they occupied at the time of the interference (NCAA8-7a AR2; NFHS 3-3-1n).

    • Nick - May 26, 2011 at 5:51 PM

      “flagrant or malicious”

      Flagrant: conspicuously offensive ; especially : so obviously inconsistent with what is right or proper as to appear to be a flouting of law or morality

      Malicious: having or showing a desire to cause harm to someone : given to, marked by, or arising from malice

      In this situation I would still call the play clean as I do not think Cousins intent was to hurt Posey nor was it inconsistent with what is right or proper.

      I love Buster Posey but even as a San Franciscan I’m saying clean hit.

  19. misterkase - May 26, 2011 at 7:54 PM

    It doesn’t take much to recognize that Cousins deliberately veered from the base line to barrel into Posey. A simply hook slide would have been more than adequate. Instead, Cousins make angles left and throws a shoulder into Posey, who was two feet onto the infield. If I were the Commissioner, I’d suspend Cousins immediately, pending a full investigation.

    “Clean hit”, states Nick… This isn’t Ice Hockey. Cousins action was not only completely unnecessary, it was a clear violation of the rules and the spirit of the game. The plate was wide open and his path unobstructed. If MLB doesn’t deal with this, I might accept a little Don Drysdale justice. If you never saw Drysdale pitch, you can’t relate. However, if you did, you’d know that you never, ever took a cheap shot at one of his team mates and got away without payback.

    • nps6724 - May 26, 2011 at 8:48 PM

      He didn’t deliberately veer toward Posey; he stays right on the baseline al the way through the plate. Watch it again, pause it as he enters the circle surrounding the plate, and draw a line with your finger from the baseline to where he makes contact with Posey. It’s almost perfectly straight.

      The plate wasn’t wide-open at all; if Posey catches the ball cleanly, he tags Cousins out on any hook slide because Posey was in position to cover the entirety of the plate.

      Like I’ve said before, could he have avoided Posey? Yes. But was he likely to be out if he does (assuming Posey catches the ball which you have to do as a runner)? Yes.

      I don’t remember Giants fans crying about JT Snow’s hit on Pudge. If that play was fine and dandy, so is this one.

      • misterkase - May 26, 2011 at 9:18 PM

        I examined the video frame by frame and posted the damning image to Facebook. Cousins never, ever made any attempt to go for the plate. He zeroed in on Posey specifically to “knock the ball loose”, in his own words. See the image here… It tells the entire story. http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/251278_2068931088259_1394292441_32433217_3291623_n.jpg

    • Nick - May 27, 2011 at 2:52 AM

      If Cousins slides and Posey comes up with the ball he could have been out at home. Two feet from the base line is still the base path which extends 3 feet on each side of the base line. I live in SF and Posey is one of my favorite players but that is 100% clean baseball.

      Here are some quotes from Giants players and coaches about the play.

      “I hate what happened last night but it was a clean play. The law of the land. It was a hard, aggressive play, and hell, it won the game (7-6) for them. What, you change the rules so no contact is allowed? No way to do that. Tell you what, though, When I pitch against that guy , I drill him. Oh, yeah, I’m smokin’ him. That’s legal, too, last time I checked.” – Mike Krukow

      “From looking at the replays, we (the giants) think it was a clean play” – Freddy Sanchez

      “There are times when the only way to score is to knock that ball out of the catcher’s hands. I did it. Didn’t always work out. But the play was clean. Remember, too, that as soon as Buster went down on one knee, he was in position to really get hurt.” – JT Snow

      “It’s baseball.” – Nate Schierholtz

      Here is the whole article from the SF Chronicle

      http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/26/MN6J1JLDD8.DTL&ao=2

  20. manhandler1 - May 27, 2011 at 3:48 AM

    Posey was NOT blocking the plate. Cousins deliberately changed course and veered away from the plate in order to complete his criminal assault on Posey. I could give one big crap what Schierholtz or Sanchez or any other player has to say about it. Cousins should be suspended for as long as it takes for Posey to fully recover. Hammering Posey like that was COMPLETELY unnecessary in order to score a run. Cousins wasn’t interested in scoring, he was interested in creaming Posey.
    Now the promising career of an incredible player is forever changed and who knows if he will ever get back to where he was…..and all this by a second rate nothing trying to make a name for himself.
    I don’t watch baseball to see mayhem and brutality….I watch it to see athletic ability. What Cousins pulled has no relation whatsoever to anything athletic. Cousins should go into extreme fighting if he’s so interested in blood and broken bones.

  21. gowhitten - May 27, 2011 at 1:01 PM

    Posey did not catch the ball and he knew it (it hit him on the leg) and turned into Cousins’ path hoping to force him away from the plate and then try to find the ball before Cousins touched the plate. Good try, bad result (for Posey).

    He should have done what Bill Freehan (a real catcher) would have done: cold-cocked him on the base path, picked up the abll and tagged him out.

    • misterkase - May 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM

      LOLOLOL Nonsense…..

      • gowhitten - May 30, 2011 at 1:30 PM

        Idiot! I guess you have not watched much pro baseball. Young catchers should learn how to move their legs so they do not get them broken. Any boxer or martial arts fighter would never have moved his legs the way Posey did.

  22. Nick - May 27, 2011 at 3:16 PM

    I feel like all these people saying it was a dirty play are very casual baseball fans who just hopped on the Giants bandwagon last season. Anyone who has been watching baseball their whole life knows that the sport has contact. It is not a traditional contact sport meaning that there is not contact on every play but there has always been contact in baseball and where there is it always makes you cringe. Outfielders collide with walls, infielders, and each other and runners collide with catchers. No one watches baseball to see these plays but they do happen.

    EVERY ONE KNOWS COUSINS COULD HAVE SLID AROUND POSEY! But then if Posey get the ball cleanly he could have tagged him out. Cousins went for the play that gave him the highest chance of scoring which was to take out the catcher. THAT IS BASEBALL. If he slides and is out everyone would have gotten on him for not taking out the catcher. Could he have gone around? Yes. Did he go out of his way to cream the catcher? Yes. Is that allowed in baseball? Yes. Is that a clean play when you are trying to score and might be out if you just slide? YES. I’ve talked with all my friends about this who are Giants fans and all of them who have been following baseball since childhood agree it’s a clean play.

    All these bandwagon Giants fans that feel entitled to a rule change need to wake up. Contact is a part of baseball. If you don’t like it watch another sport. I hear lawn bowling is lovely and contact free.

  23. lgwelsh1 - May 27, 2011 at 4:08 PM

    It’s been part of the game for 100 years, the runner did exactly as he was supposed to do. These guys get paid millions of dollars and know the risks, it was not a dirty play by any means. Tough break for Posey ( No pun intended ) but he will be back.

  24. hardjudge - May 27, 2011 at 6:02 PM

    Question simply put is baseball tradition more important than player safety? Your answers below.

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