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UPDATE: New charges against Lenny Dykstra detailed

Jun 6, 2011, 2:42 PM EDT

*Nov 24 - 00:05*

UPDATE: The details are in: Dykstra is alleged to have fraudulently leased three high-end cars from a Southern California auto dealership. Then, when he was arrested for the car theft, police found cocaine, ecstasy and synthetic human growth hormone in his home.

In other news, Lenny Dykstra had a home as recently as April.

1:03 PM:  Lenny Dykstra is going to be charged with 25 criminal counts today, unrelated to the stuff he was arrested for back in April. Among the charges: auto theft, identity theft, and drug allegations.  TMZ has the story.

At this point all of the humor is gone. I just have sadness and pity.

  1. marshmallowsnake - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:07 PM

    Nails gets nailed!

  2. rebarratige - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM

    All the jokes worth making have already been made, I suppose.

  3. halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    Loved the guy as a player and grew to dislike him after his playing days with negative story after negative story that came out on him. First it was the teenage girl trouble at the car wash that he owned. Then this.

    25 counts? Any guesses on how much jail time he’s going to see after this all plays out over the next couple of years? 5-10 years?

    • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 2:51 PM

      UPDATE: “police found cocaine, ecstasy and synthetic human growth hormone in his home.”

      Here’s a question. I know he hangs around with Charlie Sheen. Can you imagine he and Charlie Sheen partying all coked up and roided out and on ecstasy at the same time? Unbelievable!!!

      • raysfan1 - Jun 6, 2011 at 10:33 PM

        HGH is not a steroid. HGH is a protein-based hormone. Steroids are based off the sterol molecule–a fat.
        Wonder if he is under the delusion that HGH is not merely a placebo to normal adults (it is), or if he was planning to sell it to some sucker who believes in snake oil.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:47 PM

      I’d say 10 years. 25 counts on top of the other charges. That is a problem for the guy. It also depends on how much cocaine and ecstasy he had. If he had enough to get him with intent to sell, then it could be more.

      • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:59 PM


        Good leadoff hitter. No question about that. Could hit, draw walks, steal bases, high percentage on base guy. What these current Phillies could use in the worst way.

        That arm was the worse I ever saw for an outfielder. EVER! What say you?

  4. Chris Fiorentino - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM

    1993. NLCS. Game 5. Top of the 10th inning. That’s all I’ve got left for Lenny.

  5. deathmonkey41 - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:21 PM

    You have to wonder if all those steroids ate away at his brain.

  6. Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM

    Still seems pretty funny to me, but perhaps I’m missing something.

    • micker716 - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:53 PM

      No. You’re right. Still funny.

      • Old Gator - Jun 6, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        Absolutely, still funny. Like a nun falling down a flight of stairs, or Gene Hackman lighting Peter Boyle’s finger.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:49 PM

      Taking amusement in another persons struggles with drug addiction and the self destructive behavior associated with it is disgusting. There is nothing funny about that. Sit at home and giggle all you want, but 1 in 6 people struggle with alcohol and or drugs. It ruins families and ruins lives. I’m sorry if I can’t find the humor in that.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:11 PM

        With all do respect (of which I have very little for you these days), Lenny Dykstra is a sexist, racist, piece of trash that has scammed countless people, so he can go f@ck himself and you can go with him if you’d like. I find it hilarious and fitting that he be put in jail for at least one of the hundred shitty and illegal things he’s done.

        Thanks for the stats on drug abuse. Next time I light a fatty and toss back some bourbon, I’ll try to determine if I’m the one of six OR part of the other five of the six. Addiction is a bitch but she’s my bitch.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:18 PM

        Seriously who gives a damn about his drug issues when all the other crap is listed? I take amusement in you for even trying to defend him.

      • seattlej - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:30 PM

        Let’s also not forget that Nails had all the resources in the world to help himself with any addictions that he might have had. He wasn’t someone living on the street with nowhere to turn, he was a person that had every chance in the world to do the right thing and repeatedly chose to spit in the face of the right thing and embrace the wrong thing with gusto. No sympathy here.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM

        You completely missed my point and resorted to insults and demean those with addiction problems. It won’t be so damn funny when somebody close to you dies or is affected by that stuff. Nobody is defending Dykstra…he is a scumbag and needs to face the consequences of his actions. But laughing at addicts and addiction is ridiculous and just shows your true character. It’s is funny…I just merely post that it is not a funny matter and this is the reply I get. Unbelievable.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:32 PM

        Preach on, preacher! You think I’m unaware of addiction or of people with addiction? That has little to do with my disgust at Nails. I mock you. I mock Nails. Clear enough? You call me “disgusting” and expect me to give you a backrub? Dick.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:37 PM

        Never called you disgusting….I said laughing at the situation is disgusting. There is a difference. Yeah, drug addiction and his other criminal activities are completely unrelated. I could care less if you mock me. I don’t care what you think of me. Your attitude regarding drug addiction and alcoholism is appalling, but that is your problem not mine. You are the one resorting to petty name calling not me. You don’t know me and I don’t know you…keep the childish nonsense for your dorm mates.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:48 PM

        PS. nuns falling down stairs is still funny as well. I wholeheartedly agree with the Gator. SO APPALLED!

      • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:57 PM

        El Bravo and Doctor,

        In my old days (which were a couple of days ago), I would love to get involved with this fight. But, I’m trying to turn over a new leaf. I would really love to add some gasoline to this.

        Man, so tempting though, so tempting….

      • cur68 - Jun 6, 2011 at 6:06 PM

        ‘bicepts; stay out of this one. Both guys got a point here and if they’re reasonable they’ll see each other’s side a bit. Let them sort it out.

        In the mean time, have you had a chance to get to work propping up the declining American birth rate yet? You guys are under performing in the children department by around 20% as compared to 20 years ago. This is why there are fewer kids playing little league, IMO. Not enough American’s doing it for Old Glory.

      • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 6:18 PM


        Go back to the thread where we were discussing that and you will see my response. I’m not reposting here.

      • cur68 - Jun 6, 2011 at 6:46 PM

        Actually I did see your reply & I do know the numbers are for 2002. The most recently available figures are from 2008 I think. It doesn’t matter; the American birth rate has been is relatively steady decline since 1990 or so (actually I’m only counting kids alive today of baseball playing years, hence 1990ish. Going from 1910, when accurate figures are first available, it’s declined relatively steadily). Now, 2006 saw what we called a ‘baby boomlet’ where there was a rise in the number of kids born as compared to previous years.

        This was described thusly “The nearly 4.3 million births in 2006 were mostly due to a bigger population, especially a growing number of Hispanics. That group accounted for nearly one-quarter of all U.S. births.” (

        Ironic, eh? The foreigners propped the American birth rate. Ha!

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 6, 2011 at 7:20 PM

        I don’t take enjoyment out of the misery and pain of others. I’ve seen and experienced enough pain because of that stuff. I don’t want others to go through it and find it sad when they do. It doesn’t justify his actions and he must face the consequences of those actions. I don’t appreciate being called names and insulted for that belief. It is childish and juvenile. You can say my ideas are dumb or whatever, but I draw the line at personal insults. I never once said anything about you while you used profane language directed as insults toward me. I admit I wind people up on this site, but I draw the line at personally insulting and using language toward them. It is called common decency.

      • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 7:40 PM


        Seriously, I feel I’m talking to a mental midget here. You have contradicted yourself. You now agree that there has been an increase in population in the U.S (which you said previously was not the case). But now you attribute it to Latinos, which is correct. Guess what, cur68, people born on US soil are Americans. Being Latino has nothing to do with anything.

        I’ll ask you for the 4th and final time. Why is there only 72.3% Americans playing in MLB when America has a population of over 300 million? The answer is because MLB allows it. The talent is here in the U.S. We don’t need that amount of foreign product. Any other answer you or anyone else says is bs and you know it.

      • cur68 - Jun 6, 2011 at 8:05 PM

        Ah ‘bicepts my boy, you relate the total population to the population of youngsters do you? The bulk of that 300 mill you cite are far too old for ball. It’s only people born in the last 20 years or so we are really talking about. That number has declined steadily for 30 years. That blip in the birth rate was one year. It’s fallen every other year. This is not a net increase in a 20 year span. I merely mention the foreigners having little Americans for the irony/humor value. You are otherwise correct about the wee American souls popping into existence; born there = American.

        Careful with the “mental midget” stuff, eh? I hear the rustle of turned leaves…anyhow, leave us not argue about the fecundity of you and your fellow Americans. The Jays are preparing to take on the Royals in no time flat here. I will view this as a litmus test for our friend drmonkeyarmy’s praising skills. How much will he have to pour it on I wonder?

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 6, 2011 at 8:09 PM

        I am a man of my word and if the unthinkable happens, there will not be sarcasm or other negative qualities to my praising.

      • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 10:05 PM


        Do me a favor. If you are that god-damn dumb with your appraisal of my country and the state of baseball, don’t respond to my posts anymore. You are not an American and have no clue as to the state of U.S. Baseball. I repeat cur68, U.S. baseball. Not Canadian Baseball, not World Baseball. U.S Baseball.

        I’m actually being kind with this post. Expect no further responses.

      • raysfan1 - Jun 6, 2011 at 10:57 PM

        ‘cepts sees you are Canadian and I guess thinks you can’t google the census bureau stats and see that US population percentage being children under 18 is 24% in 2010, down from 25.7% in 2000, or that the percentage dropped in 95%of counties nationwide. He sees that you disagree with him and thinks you are a “mental midget”–being a physician is a funny occupation for a mental midget though. He also often responds to disagreements by telling his counterpart in the disagreement to stop posting on his comments–as if he has any power to stop anyone, or any right to by our own 1st ammendment. Funny, really.
        Yes, there are more than emough young Americans to fill out our MLB rosters. We are also plenty affluent enough to have other interests to divert young Americans away from playing baseball–both good and bad diversions. MLB, meanwhile, doesn’t give a damn where someone is from. Teams scout everywhere to try to find the best talent to help win games, which is what they should do. I agree with them–I don’t give a damn where the talent comes from either.

      • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 11:11 PM


        Cute response. You don’t care where any MLB players come from? You must be a globalist? Where did that opinion come from? I hope your job isn’t outsourced.

        Your stats are wrong. U.S. population is up. Anyone will tell you that.

        You are probably so liberal that you don’t care. Sad. Be a little USA patriot and maybe you will have a different scope on American jobs.

        Be careful, raysfan1, your crowd support for that team is not very good. You “Team” may be outsourced to amother city, like American ballplayer jobs.

      • raysfan1 - Jun 7, 2011 at 6:59 PM


        1. Let me start by agreeing that I was a bit too cute in my response yesterday–for that I apologize.
        2. I did not (nor did Cur68 to my knowledge) ever say that the US population was in decline. I said the proportion of the population below age 18 was in decline. Cur68 was correct in stating also that the US birthrate has been in decline for decades. Overall US population continues to expand due primarily to immigration and to increased life expectancy. Regardless, I agree that the US youth population is plenty large enough for MLB to find all the talent they could really want in this country.
        3. However, I stand by my statement that I really don’t care where MLB players are born–I want to see the very best players wherever they are from.
        4. I am not a liberal. In fact, I am the opposite. I am a life-long Republican. What I espoused was not outsourcing, it was merit-based hiring practices…which has pretty much always been a key tenet of conservatism. If that merit-based hiring involves importing talent, okay. Outsourcing in baseball would be taking my beloved Rays and relocating them out of the country, or building baseball academies in other countries but not here as well. I do care about outsourcing, but it’s not the same as importation–at least in my eyes.

        5. You suggested I try to be more of a patriot. My reply is that disagreeing with some of what you say does not make me less patiotic than you. In fact, I have served this nation as a military physician for 25+ years. I am the 6th straight generation of my family that has served in the military. Recently I had the honor of swearing in my nephew to the Army as a 2nd Lt upon his graduation from West Point. I like to think that there are many that can tie my patriotism, but nobody and I mean nobody surpasses my love for my country.
        6. Re: insufficent crowd support of the Rays and the possibility that they may one day relocate–yep, could happen. That’s why I chose my moniker in the first place 2 years ago when I started reading/posting on this site, just to say we Rays’ actually do exist. If they do move, it will be sad, but that’s life.

  7. jamie54 - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM

    Sadness, no pity. The guy wronged a lot of people and deserves to be punished.

  8. bobwsc - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    the Mean Machine’s baseball squad should be pretty solid with Dykstra’s addition.

  9. royalsfaninfargo - Jun 6, 2011 at 1:48 PM

    He made his bed and now he has to sleep in it. I have no sympathy for for people who willingly break the law like he did. I would find it funny if he went into court with a big chaw in his mouth like he used to have on the baseball diamond!

  10. xmatt0926x - Jun 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM

    No sympathy at all. Just read the whole GQ or ESPN story that came out on him and you can’t have any sympathy. He has no problem stealing from anyone, including his own mother and employees. When these people are foolish enough to expect their money to be repaid he simply blows them off as people who are trying to take him down. He’s a total scum in all senses of the word. Thanks for 1993 though Lenny. You were a king to a large portion of Phillies fans who had no idea of what playoff baseball was in Philadelphia.

  11. dirtyharry1971 - Jun 6, 2011 at 2:38 PM

    craig has pity for this guy? a ballplayer who made million(s) but obviously threw it all away? I can think of many others who are more worthy of pity then this guy

    • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:16 PM

      Dirty Harry,

      I love your screen name. You make sense in most of your posts. I agree with you. There should be no pity shown towards this guy. I loved watching him as a player but he sucks as a human being.

      And, by the way, he had the “WORSE” defensive arm that I have ever seen from a centerfielder. My sister could throw better than him.

      • royalsfaninfargo - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:20 PM

        Two words. Johnny. Damon………I dont think Dykstra and Damon combined could throw a ball from center to home to save their lives.

      • spudchukar - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:42 PM

        You can add Juan Pierre to the list.

    • halladaysbicepts - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM

      Yeah. Damon doesn’t have the greatest arm either. But, no one had a worse arm than Dykstra. It’s not even close. I swear, it was girl-like. Please, any Philly or Mets fans that watch him throw from centerfield, you have to chime in.

      His throwing was even worse after taking the roids. I swear royalsfan, his arm length was short to begin with. And, when his arms exploded on the roids, it was almost like he could not move his arm into a good throwing motion.

      It was borderline ridiculous.

      • royalsfaninfargo - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:32 PM

        I remember. My 4 yr old would make Lenny jealous of her arm strength.

  12. henryd3rd - Jun 6, 2011 at 2:38 PM

    This dude stole his son’s bonus money; so I feel nothing but contempt for him and wish that he hadn’t been bailed out so he could have stayed behind bars prior to his trial. I know you are innocent until proven guilty; but how do you steal from your son? The LA Times story referred to him as a former Met. Yes he was a Met; but his most memorable days were with the Phillies. If convicted he’s facing 12+ years.

    • xmatt0926x - Jun 6, 2011 at 7:48 PM

      It’s the infamy of that ’86 Mets team that gives Lenny such importance to a team he never really played full time with. The ’93 Phillies had some characters but that ’86 Mets team was legendary and memorable for all things good and bad.

  13. Jonny 5 - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:10 PM

    It seems that about 10% of the population could be considered mentally inept for a number of reasons. Why do we think this wouldn’t apply to sports figures? Money?
    Not very shocked

    • SmackSaw - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:23 PM

      10%? It’s a lot more than that. Goodnight Lenny.

  14. aceshigh11 - Jun 6, 2011 at 3:31 PM

    Survey says?


    He’s clearly a very sick individual. Hopefully he straightens his life out before it’s too late, but it most likely IS too late.

  15. opiedamus - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:04 PM

    This just in: Carlos Zambranno just called Nails an embarrassment…..

    And I can attest to his lack of arm. It would’ve been better if he put the ball in his mouth and spit it to 2nd base….would’ve gotten there a lot faster and with better aim….albeit a little moist from the chew…

  16. baseballisboring - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:06 PM

    We all know he’s a scumbag, but it’s just too easy to stand on a moral high ground and say “Screw him, he did the crime he’s gotta do the time…” yada yada. I really just can’t cheer for anyone to get locked up for 12 years. That’s such an unbelievable hell and I couldn’t wish it on anyone.

    Do I *really* feel sorry for him? Nah, I don’t know the guy…but guys like this, with all the drugs and the rest of his off the wall behavior…I can’t help but think about what could have made him the way he is. I’m not losing sleep. But I don’t have the “lock him up and throw away the key” attitude about it either.

    • ditto65 - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:28 PM

      Different tune if you were one of the many he screwed, I bet.

      • baseballisboring - Jun 6, 2011 at 4:41 PM

        To a certain degree…but I’d never cheer for him to go to prison for that long unless it was something incredibly extreme. Such vitriol for a guy we don’t know who clearly has severe mental issues.

    • whiskeyontherox - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:22 PM

      You are absolutely correct it is very easy to stand on moral high ground and say screw him.

  17. whiskeyontherox - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    I just read the GQ Article. I have NO SYMPATHY for Lenny Dykstra. Another person who got over by taking advantage of others because he felt entitled. He is about to learn the hard way that karma is BEEYOTCH…I take that back he is too stoned and stupid to get the concept.

  18. smarterthangirardi - Jun 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM

    oh Lenny…your finally gonna have that NAIL in the coffin arent you? huh. say hi to elijah dukes and willy aybar for me

  19. jwbiii - Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM

    What the hell league you been playing in?
    California Penal…
    Never heard of it. How’d you end up playing there?
    Stole some cars.

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