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Lesbian couple files discrimination complaint against Target Field security

Jun 16, 2011, 1:33 PM EDT

Twins hitters want some tweaks to Target Field

Look, if I have to see fat hairy Bob and his wife Betty up on the jumbotron when they do the kiss cam thing, I had better not hear that ballpark security is out on the concourses trying to keep a couple of nice ladies who are in love from kissing one another.  Wait, what? Oh, Minnesota …

Taylor Campione and Kelsi Culpepper — two lesbian women from Minneapolis — were recently scolded by a Target Field security guard for what they call a “brief kiss.”  After seeing the quick peck on the lips, the guard told the women that “we don’t play grab ass here” and that they must “adhere to the 10 Commandments” while at the stadium.

The guard has been reprimanded and apologies issued, but Campione and Culpepper are going to pursue a discrimination complaint with the Minnesota Department of Human Rights.

But you know what gets me more angry here than the whole homophobia angle?  The 10 Commandments comment. Not because it brings religion into the ballpark, but because the Twins themselves are already violating them.  Take the second commandment:

Thou shalt not make for yourself a carved image–any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.’

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you a carved image of the likeness of something that — depending on what you think of him — is either in heaven or beneath the earth:

And I won’t even go in to the serial violations about keeping the Sabbath holy. Unless you count a 1pm start against the White Sox “holy.”  Which, frankly, it may be.

108 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. tomemos - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:38 PM

    Nicely said. Plus the 10 Commandments say absolutely nothing about gay people. Unless those women were committing adultery…

  2. phukyouk - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:42 PM

    wait… i thought there were 15 commandments?

    • The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:49 PM

      There were:

      • phukyouk - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM


  3. jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    Read an article a couple weeks ago claiming Minneapolis as the #1 gayest city in US. Guess the Twins missed it.

    • kopy - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 PM

      And Minnesota is about to vote on an amendment that would ban gay marriage. The political rage is already flying. This is definitely going to stir the coals.

      • royalsfaninfargo - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM

        Kopy, agreed. I am on the other side of the border in ND, but MN is one of the most tolerant and PC states in the Union. I would guess this guy wont have job for much longer.

    • jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:47 PM

      strike Twins replace with rent a cop.

  4. cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    I may or may not be in favor of this article depending on what the 2 ladies in question look like…
    Aw, heck, I can’t even type it with a straight face; who gives a toss what kind consenting adult kisses another consenting adult? Like, really? That’s what you go after people for? Why not go down on the field and give all those guys adjusting their junk heck too? That’s far more egregious IMO.

    • IdahoMariner - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:47 PM

      that was EXACTLY what I was thinking. That, and, um, yeah, there is all kinds of “grab-ass” happening, it’s just on the field, all the time.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:01 PM

        Quite a lot of grabbing um…other things, as well.

  5. CJ - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM

    no stolen bases either, I presume?

    • proudlycanadian - Jun 16, 2011 at 5:39 PM

      Thou shalt not steal. That is a tough one. All baseball players are sinners except AL pitchers.

  6. The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:46 PM

    As a Twins fan, this makes me incredibly sad. Shame on the stadium security person involved, and I am glad to hear the team has taken some action. I hope the team makes it clear to its employees that legal, non-gratuitous shows of affection are welcome at Target Field, regardless of who is kissing whom.

    • Jonny 5 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      I wouldn’t take it too hard common man. It’s not really an issue with the Twins, but an issue one dude has with women kissing (he must be gay). J/K .

      No, but really I guess somehow they must screen the employees on their acceptance of homosexuals and kissing? I don’t see this as a “Twins were discriminatory” story line although an attorney has written it as such. It’s just one guy who obviously did not put anything on his resume about not liking homosexuals.

      • The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM

        I don’t think this is a Twins issue either, Jonny, provided it doesn’t happen again and the message got through to this security guard and other team employees that bigotry will not be tolerated.

      • seeingwhatsticks - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:32 PM

        He’s free to not like homosexuals, he’s just not free to do it at Twins games. The only way it’s an issue with the Twins is if they never mentioned to employees that they can’t do stuff like this, or if they don’t take appropriate action against the security guard in question.

    • kopy - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:24 PM

      I’m a Twins fan too, luckily the precedent for this is quite clear, and will surely be executed:

      1. Issue (truthful) statement that the opinions of the employee in question do not reflect the opinions of the Minnesota Twins, and that the employee will no longer work for the Minnesota Twins.
      2. Fire Employee
      3. Win Central Division???

  7. deathmonkey41 - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:48 PM

    I dunno- my whole image of lesbians has been distorted by watching porn. It’s also why I believe that pizza delivery guy and cable repairman are the two greatest jobs EVER.

    • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:53 PM

      Ok. You got your first + thumb from me. I always thought auto mechanic was a good fall back job based on the exact same reasoning.

      • professorperry - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:17 PM

        Must read –,10841/

    • aceshigh11 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:04 PM

      Heh, that was really funny.

  8. Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:49 PM

    Baseball parks are my church, but that doesn’t make the parks a Christian church. It’s a polytheistic religion that refers often to the baseball gods. The gods that write the unwritten rules. The gods that make it rain on ballgames when they feel the need to do so. The gods that punish the Cubs and Indians for reasons we may never know. The gods that put hot dogs, beer, and baseball in the same location. The gods that allow small market teams to compete against large market teams w/o a salary cap. I pray to them daily, even in the off-season. Some may not know this, but the saying “good luck and Gods’ speed” is referring to the luck that is defined by sabermetric algorithms and the speed as defined by Ricky Henderson.

    • paperlions - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:04 PM

      Did the baseball gods erase the unwritten rules? Is that how they became unwritten instead of simply non-written.

      • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM

        I think Mel Brooks dropped them too.

      • lanflfan - Jun 16, 2011 at 5:29 PM

        The baseball gods wrote them in invisible ink.

    • bklynbaseball - Jun 22, 2011 at 2:12 PM

      That is the best paragraph I have read in a very long time.

  9. dlevalley - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:49 PM

    This happened in Seattle a couple of years ago too (without the 10 commandments part). IIRC, the couple was escorted out of the stadium for ‘inappropriate behavior.’

    • frommsb - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:21 PM

      They were not escorted out. They were just asked to stop, in theory because of the park’s “code of conduct — announced before each game — specifically mentions public displays of affection that are “not appropriate in a public, family setting.”

      • IdahoMariner - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM

        and they, also, were simply engaged in a brief kiss, nothing too involved or “inappropriate in a family setting” unless you just can’t stand the thought of homosexuality, period.

      • frommsb - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM

        If I remember correctly, she said they were eating garlic fries and occasionally kissing each other. The problem was that someone else in the section complained to an usher…

  10. seeingwhatsticks - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:52 PM

    How was the security guard not fired immediately?

    • dianagram - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:39 PM

      He was reassigned …. to backup catcher.

    • kopy - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:36 PM

      This usher must be one of Gardenhire’s “guys”. Probably shows an extraordinary amount of hustle, grit, and the ability to “get-after-it” while ushing.

  11. dianagram - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:53 PM

    Guard is claiming he isn’t used to seeing anyone reach first base at Target Field.

    • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM

      Uh. . .hi Diana. What is your opinion on a fall back job? Cable guy, pizza delivery guy or auto mechanic? I shall be setting my career path accordingly.

      • dianagram - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:09 PM

        Sandwich Board guy standing on streetcorner in 90+ degree weather.

      • jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:14 PM

        Cur, buddy you been pwned.

      • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:18 PM

        No no, I’m buying it. Got the makings of a great board already; see “washboard” (heh). I know just what the board will say too; “I make 185K/year and I lost a bet so I have to stand here with this stupid board”. That should do the trick.

    • The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM


    • scatterbrian - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:09 PM

      Oh dear lord that rules!

    • Jonny 5 - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:12 PM

      Aaron Gleeman just virtualy punched you Dianagram. LMAO!

      • dianagram - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:15 PM

        Oh really? :-)

  12. hawknut - Jun 16, 2011 at 1:57 PM

    Not wanting to see public displays of affection whether they are homosexual or not doesn’t automatically make them a homophobe. Even if they are anti-gay it doesn’t automatically make the a homophobe. A person who is a homophobe either hates or fears gay people. Look it up in the dictionary and learn how to use the English language you IDIOT FAILED LAWYER!

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:02 PM

      If we’re going to get technical about definitions, I suggest you look up “idiot failed lawyer.”

      Because I just have a hunch that I’ve made my career path work out a bit more satisfyingly than you’ve made yours work.

    • tomemos - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:06 PM

      Oh good, another discussion of what “homophobia” means. Everyone pull up a chair and let’s get to the bottom of this once and for all!

    • aceshigh11 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:07 PM

      Wow, what scintillating commentary.

    • seeingwhatsticks - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:07 PM

      So why should I have to watch ugly people showing public displays of affection? What about fat people? We are all stuck seeing things that we don’t really enjoy seeing on a daily basis because that’s part of living in a free society where people have the ability to make decisions that others wouldn’t make for themselves.

      And oh by the way, being anti-gay DOES make you a homophobe. Why would you be against gays unless you were afraid of them? This is where I just don’t understand the anti gay rights movement: why do you care so much? If you’re not afraid of anything where does all the passion for the issue come from?

    • thefalcon123 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:07 PM

      So, you are just against people kissing in public in general and feel it should be punished? What are you, the f**king Taliban?

    • jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM

      anyone who singles out two women for kissing each other is definitely hating or fearing that act.

    • The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM

      You are indeed appropriately monikered, Mr. Nut. This security guard didn’t scold them because they were kissing, he scolded them because they were kissing and that somehow violated the 10 commandments (which say nothing about being gay or kissing, unless you interpret the adultery commandment exceptionally broadly, and then is he also scolding straight couples?). It’s described as a “brief kiss”, which doesn’t fall under most definitions of annoying PDA.

    • paperlions - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:12 PM

      Hawknut, you might want to learn the language yourself, a phobia doesn’t only manifest as fear or hate. Indeed, the word really means to have an aversion or dread of something, which has been twisted to mean fear. Specifically, homophobia refers to negative attitudes and feelings, typically those that manifest as discrimination. Unless this guard goes around telling everyone he seems kiss at the stadium to stop it and wrongly invokes Judaic lore in the process, then he is a homophobe by definition.

    • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:13 PM

      Oh, Enlightened One, did you actually read the linked article?

      From said article:
      “I saw you kissing that girl, you can’t do that,” the security guard said.
      “I can kiss whoever I want to,” Campione replied.
      “Well, we don’t play grab ass here,” the guard answered.

      Does THAT clear up the “homophobia angle” for you? Now, why not go get bent back into shape?

      • seeingwhatsticks - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM

        The only thing I will defend about that security guard is his use of the term “grab ass.” I need to use that more often.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:19 PM

        “Use” or “do” it more often? But I question his eyesight, since there was apparently no actual grabbing of a$$ occurring—until the Twins got their hands on him, maybe.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:25 PM

        I play grab ass like it’s my job. Actually Sexual Harasser IS my official job title. I’m non-biased about it, everyone gets a “shake”.

      • seeingwhatsticks - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        Uhh, both? Mainly use it more but I’m not opposed to doing it more either. It’s just a great phrase.

        Tobias: You are playing adults…with fully. Pick that up. Pick that up, please. …with fully formed libidos, not two young men playing grab-ass in the shower.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        I absolutely have a problem with Heyward grabbing my a$$.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:34 PM

        It doesn’t matter if you do have a problem with it b/c it’s not harassment if you don’t. In fact, it’s preferable that you do have a problem with it from my perspective.

  13. Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:00 PM

    You are the idiot, sir, if you cannot see the quite obvious “homophobia angle” of this incident.

  14. cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    WTF? Who the HELL are you? In case you didn’t notice this isn’t your private grammar forum, nor is it a place where you get to tell the guy what to do on his blog. The term is likely uses for the sake of clarity not necessarily to appease douches with little sense of tone, common manners, or the fact that they are clearly unaware of how big an ass they themselves are. Get lost.

  15. hawknut - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:04 PM

    Mr. Jason “El Bravo” Heyward – Re-read my post and go buy a dictionary.

    • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:05 PM

      No, ass. He shouldn’t. You go learn some damn manners then get back to us. Prick.

    • tomemos - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:10 PM

      Why do you even care whether it’s “homophobia” or not? There isn’t another word that means “discrimination against gay people,” so you knew what Craig meant, right?

      Seriously, I’m asking. Why is it that people who defend anti-gay discrimination are obsessed with splitting hairs over “homophobia”? (See the Roger McDowell incident as well.) Is it just that, if there isn’t a name for it, it must be okay?

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:31 PM

      Who buys a dictionary? The internet killed that business twenty years ago. I can look it up for YOU though.

         /ˌhoʊməˈfoʊbiə/ Show Spelled[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh]
      –noun – unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

      That may confuse you, so here’s the definition of “antipathy”:

         /ænˈtɪpəθi/ Show Spelled[an-tip-uh-thee]
      –noun, plural -thies.
      1. a natural, basic, or habitual repugnance; aversion.
      2. an instinctive contrariety or opposition in feeling.
      3. an object of natural aversion or habitual dislike.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:22 PM

      Whoa nut…settle down. I’m all for giving El Bravo shit but you are off base on this topic. Bigotry and like topics is not something to go winding people up about, particularly on a baseball forum. I mean if you want to start a rousing argument accuse somebody of being on steroids or bad mouth sabermetrics.

      • umrguy42 - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:46 PM

        …or take a side in the ever present cake vs pie dispute.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:55 PM

        Oh, now you did it….

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:16 PM

        Yippy PIE Yay Mother Cakesters!

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:52 PM

        You pie molester.

      • The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 5:20 PM

        Cakety, cakety, cake, cake, cake. Delicious cake.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 5:40 PM

        The Common Man and Ron Burgundy vote for lovely cake.

  16. ck101 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:07 PM

    In defense of the Twins, there is not a uniform message of intolerance being sent at Target Field. In fact, a few Sundays ago the game production crew livened up the Kiss-Cam by selecting as one of the couples Dan Gladden and Jack Morris in the Twins radio broadcast booth; the two complied with a surprisingly long kiss. That this was not the source of any public comment that I’m aware of indicates to me that (a) times have changed considerably, and (b) the problematic treatment the couple received here was the work of a rogue usher, who is most likely going to be doing his ushing somewhere else in the near future.

    • tomemos - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:11 PM

      Thumbs-up for “ushing.”

    • The Common Man/ - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:14 PM

      Yet another case of an idiot “going rogue.” Best not to be rogue-ish, unless you’re Sawyer from Lost.

    • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:14 PM

      Damn man, I could have gone the rest of my life cheerfully not knowing Gladden & Morris were smooching. Eeew. Does Jack still have that big handle bar mustache he used to have? That must have been awful for Gladden with that broom scraping away at his face. Next time, post something less offensive that Morris kissing anyone.

  17. skerney - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:11 PM

    There is nothing about kissing in the 10 commandments.

    • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM

      But is it in the unwritten rules?

      • skerney - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:23 PM

        I knew La Russa had a hand in this!

      • umrguy42 - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:48 PM

        It’s unwritten commandment #3a: “Thou shalt not engage in PDAs with a member of the same sex, unless both of you are blonde 18 year old roommates and look good in bikinis.”

      • cur68 - Jun 17, 2011 at 12:00 AM

        That’s my favorite commandment, right there.

  18. Jonny 5 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:32 PM

    In other News, this type of behavior is fine in Philly.

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM

      That’s cuz Phillies fans blow.

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM

        yesterday we suck, today we blow. Which one is it Elbravo??? We also do other things…..

        Please don’t click the link if you are offended by “dirty stadium not nearly but almost porn”

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:00 PM

        Jonny, he’s just Phantasizing about Phightins Phans again.

      • sasquash20 - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:21 PM

        A Braves fan talking smack on Phillies fans? Please you wormburners couldn’t even sell out all your playoff games. Talk about fraud fans, Atlanta is a fraud sports city. Atlanta is just a joke period.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:18 PM

        Geez sasquash, didn’t I ruffle your fur? I’ve been giving these Phils fans a hard time since I’ve been perusing HBT. Relax and go watch your team win the division.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:54 PM

        Or at least watch Cliffy uncork a CG 2-hit shutout of the Sardines.

      • Utley's Hair - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:56 PM

        Oh, and he also helped his own cause (hehhehheh) by going 2-for-3 with an RBI double for the first and only run he needed.

      • sasquash20 - Jun 17, 2011 at 1:49 AM

        You said Phillies fans blow. That may be the dumbest statement ever made. We are very passionate, loyal, and yes sometimes crazy fans. But blow we do not. Tell me the last regular season game we didn’t sell out? How about playoff game? Suck on it EL nut tickler. Philly fans are light years better then Atlanta fans.

      • cur68 - Jun 17, 2011 at 2:34 AM

        S20; as usual you have a tin ear for the conversation. Everybody’s friends here. We all get along with each other. Except for you. You I think we (and by ‘we’ I mean us Philly, Jays, Braves, Cubs, Cake and Pie fans) you we’d cheerfully drop in a cold sewer somewhere. Get lost you ridiculous jerk.

      • sasquash20 - Jun 20, 2011 at 1:13 AM

        I’m glad I’m the one ridiculous jerk that no one likes. I will continue to be a ridiculous jerk as much as possible. Thanks cur68 for being a total douche bag and motivating me to be the best ridiculous jerk I can be.

    • jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM

      But is he ‘in’ the stadium?

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:53 PM


      • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:05 PM

        jimbo, if you have to ask then you really need to get away from the computer, and meet a nice a girl, and have her ‘splain some stuff to you. He’s got excellent seats at the stadium IMO.

      • jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:58 PM

        Dear Cur,
        methinks you got lost in the thread. I was referring to the mutt fan picture, not the stink finger.

      • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 5:07 PM

        Oh. Well good luck with the nice girl anyways.

      • jimbo1949 - Jun 16, 2011 at 5:26 PM

        I’m amenable, but my wife’s not :-)

  19. ck101 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:37 PM

    At risk of disturbing you even more, cur68, Jack has a full, bushy goatee/mustache combo these days, which is fully grey. I was having some difficulty explaining to my wife, who’s not much of a baseball fan, the unique irony of having those two, out of all former Twins, be the ones kissing, given their reputations for being macho men. I did, however, get to regale her with Jack’s famous quote, regarding women reporters in the locker room, that he only talks to women when he’s naked if they’re on top of him or he’s on top of them.

    • cur68 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:45 PM

      It’s lunch time here. I was going to start my diet tomorrow. Now, thanks to you and Jack, today will day 1.

      • ck101 - Jun 16, 2011 at 2:52 PM

        This story really does make one look at the picture at the top of this page in a whole new light:

  20. ThatGuy - Jun 16, 2011 at 3:41 PM

    This is actually kind of wierd, and definatly all security guard. I was at Target field on May 23rd, and during the usauly kiss cam, they showed a pair of ladies(although to be fair one was kind of butch so the camera guy could have thought it was a dude) and they did the obligatory kiss. So one day they are showing girls on the kiss cam and 5 days later a guard makes a bad decision.

  21. Senor Cardgage - Jun 16, 2011 at 4:24 PM

    What about “Thou shalt not steal”?

  22. ezwriter69 - Jun 16, 2011 at 10:26 PM

    One more piece of evidence that Roger McDowell had at least one thing exactly right… a ballpark is NO place to take your kids. Not anymore. Leave the kids at home. If it isn’t drunks cussing and fighting, it’s Lady Gaga flashing the world, and now lezzies making out in the grandstands… What a bleeping world. Leave the kids home, please.

    • The Common Man/ - Jun 17, 2011 at 4:13 PM

      How about you stay at home, and I take my kids wherever the hell I want. But we’d rather not interact with you while we’re there. Thanks.

  23. dirtyharry1971 - Jun 16, 2011 at 11:07 PM

    If they two ladies did this in fenway park that kinda thing can legally get you married there!! these ladies need to become redsox fans ASAP!!

    • spudchukar - Jun 17, 2011 at 2:44 PM

      They are gay; not dense.

  24. nocryinginbaseball07 - Jun 18, 2011 at 6:45 PM

    Thanks for putting that so well, cur. As a Philly fan, I’ve found that you can’t be thin-skinned and had better keep your sense of humor dusted off…also, for the life of me I can’t figure out the correlation between selling out seats and blowing. We can’t blow or suck because we sell out the stadium? Seems unfair.

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