Comments on: Chien-Ming Wang makes first professional start since July of 2009

By: phukyouk

phukyouk — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:58:36 +0000

If i have a million Dollars and you have a million and 1 who’s richer? all im saying is that every team has ONE ace no matter how good or bad. Wang was that ace at the time. Doc IS the ace of the Phillies staff plain and simple. if he goes down for the season and Oswalt makes a miraculous recovery Philly would still be in a shiton of trouble as opposed to Hamels or Lee going down.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:34:24 +0000

Then we are definitely arguing two different definitions of “ace.” I’d argue that the Yankees didn’t really have an ace in the middle of the decade. Likewise, I would argue the Phillies currently have three. It would seem to me that you would argue that Roy Halladay is an ace, because he’s the best pitcher on the staff, but that Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels are not aces. Is that correct? I understand that is a usage, but for me, I can’t get behind the idea that each team has one and only one ace on its staff.

By: foreverchipper10

foreverchipper10 — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:38:47 +0000

At 31 if he can get healthy he should still have a few good years left to contribute to what is a promising Nationals roster. Slot him after Strasberg and Zimmermann. Quite the solid top 3 in the rotation.

By: phukyouk

phukyouk — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:24:29 +0000

so at that time who was the Ace of the yanks staff? Moose? Randy Johnson? andy wasnt on the yanks at the time so who was it? it was Wang… im not saying that hes an Ace on any staff but those yrs he WAS the yanks ace.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:42:20 +0000

Because he was second in the league in Run Support in 2007, and pretty high up there in 2006 as well? I said he was a pretty good pitcher, not a great one Those ERA’s support my point, not disprove it. Being a solid #2 has no shame involved, and that’s what Wang was. My point was only that he “won” so many games because he had a great offense behind him as well as being a good pitcher.

By: phukyouk

phukyouk — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:30:45 +0000

he had a 3.63, 370, 4.07 ERA before getting injured. how does that translate into great offense?

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:38:57 +0000

No, that simply means a good pitcher with a great offense will produce gaudy win totals. It’s why pitcher record is a terrible way of evaluating pitchers.

By: phukyouk

phukyouk — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:19:04 +0000

back to back 19 win seasons with an 18win before that = ACE

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:05:28 +0000

Here’s to hoping the Wanger can make it back to the bigs as an effective starter. He was never the ace some of my fellow Yankee fans made him out to be, but his solid control along with his extreme ground-ball tendencies made for a pretty good pitcher. Best of luck, buddy.

By: virusgvr

virusgvr — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 06:42:53 +0000

I gotta say that when I saw this article I raised my eyes. First off I thought this guy was to never be heard from again. It would be really nice to see him make it back to the majors after such a long layoff. I do have to say that it was pretty funny watching his ERA shoot through the roof back in 2009. I think it got up to like 21 or something.

By: kinggeorge96

kinggeorge96 — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 02:00:31 +0000

I wish they had held on to him… if he’s ever healthy again he’ll be a groundball machine.

By: pisano

pisano — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:53:50 +0000

I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for him. It’s a damn shame, because he was a horse for the Yankees before the injury. I hope the best for him he was stopper for the Yanks. Good Luck to him.

By: yankeesfanlen

yankeesfanlen — Tue, 28 Jun 2011 01:44:40 +0000

I go AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHH every time I think of interleague play because of this man.