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	<title>Comments on: Is the Dodgers&#8217; bankruptcy one of the worst moments in baseball history?</title>
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		<title>By: mvd513</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shit. Where is beer only $4?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shit. Where is beer only $4?</p>
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		<title>By: sportsdrenched</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sportsdrenched]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The winner of the All-Star Game determining home field of the World Series is pretty bad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The winner of the All-Star Game determining home field of the World Series is pretty bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t stand it over &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; speakers - especially not the ones in the car that pulls up next to me at the traffic light. I doubt I would like its vibrations through the floor if I were deaf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand it over <i>any</i> speakers &#8211; especially not the ones in the car that pulls up next to me at the traffic light. I doubt I would like its vibrations through the floor if I were deaf.</p>
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		<title>By: royalsfaninfargo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[royalsfaninfargo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome! I have always wondered if she beat up David Coverdale as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! I have always wondered if she beat up David Coverdale as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Detroit Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Detroit Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must really dislike hip hop over jumbotron speakers.  That item really stands out on your list.  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must really dislike hip hop over jumbotron speakers.  That item really stands out on your list.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: simon94022</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[simon94022]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I have nothing against the Yankees (seriously), but that kind of competitive imbalance was ridiculous.  22 pennants in 29 seasons, and in almost all if those years the AL race was over by August.  Of the 7 non-Yankee pennant seasons, two were war time years with replacement players.  And another was 1954, when the Yankees lost the pennant despite going 101-53.  

The fact that fans outside New York had basically no reason to be excited about baseball for several decades played a big role in the massive relocation of teams that began in the 50s, as well as the rise of football which eventually passed baseball in popularity.

The other American League teams developed a kind of sick codependence on the Yankee dynasty.  While it was killing their fanbases, they depended on the attendance bump that home games against the Yankees brought.  And in the worst cases, like the Kansas City A&#039;s, they grew dependent on the cash the Yankees could pay them for their players.

Say what you will about competitive imbalance in the AL East today, it&#039;s nowhere near as bad as it used to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have nothing against the Yankees (seriously), but that kind of competitive imbalance was ridiculous.  22 pennants in 29 seasons, and in almost all if those years the AL race was over by August.  Of the 7 non-Yankee pennant seasons, two were war time years with replacement players.  And another was 1954, when the Yankees lost the pennant despite going 101-53.  </p>
<p>The fact that fans outside New York had basically no reason to be excited about baseball for several decades played a big role in the massive relocation of teams that began in the 50s, as well as the rise of football which eventually passed baseball in popularity.</p>
<p>The other American League teams developed a kind of sick codependence on the Yankee dynasty.  While it was killing their fanbases, they depended on the attendance bump that home games against the Yankees brought.  And in the worst cases, like the Kansas City A&#8217;s, they grew dependent on the cash the Yankees could pay them for their players.</p>
<p>Say what you will about competitive imbalance in the AL East today, it&#8217;s nowhere near as bad as it used to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, I&#039;ll be here all week!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, I&#8217;ll be here all week!</p>
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		<title>By: dirtyharry1971</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dirtyharry1971]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. bud selig
2. luxery tax
3. bud selig
4. citi field
5. bud selig
6.interleague play
7. bud selig
8.pete rose
9. ortiz taking pills trying to get preg
10 bud selig]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. bud selig<br />
2. luxery tax<br />
3. bud selig<br />
4. citi field<br />
5. bud selig<br />
6.interleague play<br />
7. bud selig<br />
8.pete rose<br />
9. ortiz taking pills trying to get preg<br />
10 bud selig</p>
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		<title>By: spudchukar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spudchukar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[11. The Designated Hitter]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11. The Designated Hitter</p>
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		<title>By: royalsfaninfargo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[royalsfaninfargo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had never heard of that. That is messed up. Although in this description the &quot;sniper&quot; is a 14 yr old boy who was shooting a .45 from his roof. Still how messed up is that?
http://articles.nydailynews.com/1998-08-30/news/18088663_1_new-yorkers-polo-grounds-mr-truman]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had never heard of that. That is messed up. Although in this description the &#8220;sniper&#8221; is a 14 yr old boy who was shooting a .45 from his roof. Still how messed up is that?<br />
<a href="http://articles.nydailynews.com/1998-08-30/news/18088663_1_new-yorkers-polo-grounds-mr-truman" rel="nofollow">http://articles.nydailynews.com/1998-08-30/news/18088663_1_new-yorkers-polo-grounds-mr-truman</a></p>
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		<title>By: simon94022</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[simon94022]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great point about the violence in late 19th century NL games.  Umpires were so openly intimidated with threats of assault that fans lost confidence in the integrity of their calls.  Ban Johnson smartly cracked down on this in his new American League, so that umpires were able to eject rulebreakers more easily, and threatening or bumping an umpire became grounds for suspension.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point about the violence in late 19th century NL games.  Umpires were so openly intimidated with threats of assault that fans lost confidence in the integrity of their calls.  Ban Johnson smartly cracked down on this in his new American League, so that umpires were able to eject rulebreakers more easily, and threatening or bumping an umpire became grounds for suspension.</p>
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		<title>By: brianpmoore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[brianpmoore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tawny Kitaen beating up Chuck Finley wasn&#039;t exactly a Cooperstown moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tawny Kitaen beating up Chuck Finley wasn&#8217;t exactly a Cooperstown moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. The designated hitter
2. Corporate naming of stadiums
2a The designated hitter
3. The carcinogenic baseball hot dog
3a The designated hitter
4. The four dollar beer
4a The designated hitter
5. Beanbag guns
5a The designated hitter
6. Hip hop over jumbotron speakers
6a Hip hop over jumbotron speakers
7. Scrooge McLoria and the Chihuahua
7a The designated hitter
8. Public financing of stadiums
8a The designated hitter
9. The absence of Mark Cuban
9a The designated hitter
10. The stale bun in which the carcinogenic baseball hotdog is secreted
10a - the loss of independence and integrity of the Commissioner&#039;s Office]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The designated hitter<br />
2. Corporate naming of stadiums<br />
2a The designated hitter<br />
3. The carcinogenic baseball hot dog<br />
3a The designated hitter<br />
4. The four dollar beer<br />
4a The designated hitter<br />
5. Beanbag guns<br />
5a The designated hitter<br />
6. Hip hop over jumbotron speakers<br />
6a Hip hop over jumbotron speakers<br />
7. Scrooge McLoria and the Chihuahua<br />
7a The designated hitter<br />
8. Public financing of stadiums<br />
8a The designated hitter<br />
9. The absence of Mark Cuban<br />
9a The designated hitter<br />
10. The stale bun in which the carcinogenic baseball hotdog is secreted<br />
10a &#8211; the loss of independence and integrity of the Commissioner&#8217;s Office</p>
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		<title>By: simon94022</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[simon94022]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, how about July 4, 1950.  Giants fan Barney Doyle is murdered in his seat at the Polo Grounds by a sniper on Coogan&#039;s Bluff.  The sniper had fired randomly into the crowd &quot;for fun&quot;.

According to Time magazine that week, as soon as police removed the dead body &quot;standees scrambled for the two vacant seats, and the game began&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, how about July 4, 1950.  Giants fan Barney Doyle is murdered in his seat at the Polo Grounds by a sniper on Coogan&#8217;s Bluff.  The sniper had fired randomly into the crowd &#8220;for fun&#8221;.</p>
<p>According to Time magazine that week, as soon as police removed the dead body &#8220;standees scrambled for the two vacant seats, and the game began&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: po8crg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[po8crg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of nineteenth century horrors that have been missed:

Dual ownership leading to the 1899 Cleveland Spiders (what was effectively a minor league team playing in the majors)

Routine violence in the NL at the end of the nineteenth century - one of the reasons the AL took off was that they cleaned the game up.

For all who are saying that MLB had to go to California, they could have admitted the PCL as a third major league; it was remarkably close to matching the AL and NL until the Dodgers and Giants came West.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of nineteenth century horrors that have been missed:</p>
<p>Dual ownership leading to the 1899 Cleveland Spiders (what was effectively a minor league team playing in the majors)</p>
<p>Routine violence in the NL at the end of the nineteenth century &#8211; one of the reasons the AL took off was that they cleaned the game up.</p>
<p>For all who are saying that MLB had to go to California, they could have admitted the PCL as a third major league; it was remarkably close to matching the AL and NL until the Dodgers and Giants came West.</p>
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		<title>By: foreverchipper10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foreverchipper10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How the Brian Stow beating is not on here blows my mind. Also, a few years back I remember a father and son running onto the field and attacking and savagely beating the first base coach for the Royals I believe. That should be on here as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the Brian Stow beating is not on here blows my mind. Also, a few years back I remember a father and son running onto the field and attacking and savagely beating the first base coach for the Royals I believe. That should be on here as well.</p>
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		<title>By: frug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[frug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does &quot;Marge Schott&quot; qualify for individual entry?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does &#8220;Marge Schott&#8221; qualify for individual entry?</p>
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		<title>By: royalsfaninfargo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[royalsfaninfargo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great historical references. Not many people look at the entirety of Baseball history when thinking about it. The 1936-1964 Yankees total domination is one of the overlooked aspects of the decline in baseball&#039;s popularity after the 50&#039;s. Not to pick on the Yankees or New York because any team in that position would have done the same. There is a great book about this that came out not to long ago:
http://www.amazon.com/Bottom-Ninth-Branch-Stengel-Baseball/dp/0805092366/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1309280707&amp;sr=1-5]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great historical references. Not many people look at the entirety of Baseball history when thinking about it. The 1936-1964 Yankees total domination is one of the overlooked aspects of the decline in baseball&#8217;s popularity after the 50&#8242;s. Not to pick on the Yankees or New York because any team in that position would have done the same. There is a great book about this that came out not to long ago:
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<p style="margin: 10px 10px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bottom-Ninth-Branch-Stengel-Baseball/dp/0805092366/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1309280707&#038;sr=1-5" target="_blank"><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61BTTTMcAlL.jpg" height="500" width="328" alt="Bottom of the Ninth: Branch Rickey, Casey Stengel, and the Daring Scheme to Save Baseball from Itself" style="padding:0;margin:0;border:none;" /></a></p>
<p style="font-size: 10px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bottom-Ninth-Branch-Stengel-Baseball/dp/0805092366/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1309280707&#038;sr=1-5" target="_blank">Bottom of the Ninth: Branch Rickey, Casey Stengel, and the Daring Scheme to Save Baseball from Itself</a></p>
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<p style="margin: 10px 129px;"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Bottom-Ninth-Branch-Stengel-Baseball/dp/0805092366/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1309280707&#038;sr=1-5" target="_blank"><img alt="Buy from Amazon" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/buttons/buy-from-tan.gif"" style="padding:0;margin:0;border:none;" /></a></p>
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		<title>By: kirkmack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kirkmack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I re-read this, my list is really only 7, as the death of Giamatti resulted in Faye Vincent being the new lame duck commish, resulting in Bud Selig eventually forcing him out in his hostile takeover bid to take over MLB in order to push his small market agenda, resulting in the strike/lockout of 1994 that lead to the cancellation of the World Series, also resulting in the Expos being &#039;owned&#039; by MLB, moved to DC amidst contraction threats, the resulting ruination of small market teams like the Royals, Pirates, A&#039;s, Brewers (owned by Selig in a clear conflict of interest), and Twins, and causing Selig to be so obsessed with breaking the player&#039;s union that he turned a blind eye on the rise (or at least explosion of) of steroid use in baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I re-read this, my list is really only 7, as the death of Giamatti resulted in Faye Vincent being the new lame duck commish, resulting in Bud Selig eventually forcing him out in his hostile takeover bid to take over MLB in order to push his small market agenda, resulting in the strike/lockout of 1994 that lead to the cancellation of the World Series, also resulting in the Expos being &#8216;owned&#8217; by MLB, moved to DC amidst contraction threats, the resulting ruination of small market teams like the Royals, Pirates, A&#8217;s, Brewers (owned by Selig in a clear conflict of interest), and Twins, and causing Selig to be so obsessed with breaking the player&#8217;s union that he turned a blind eye on the rise (or at least explosion of) of steroid use in baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: foreverchipper10</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Randy Johnson hitting that bird was not a dark moment. It was incredible. I am not pro animal violence or anything but the odds of that happening are astronomical. It is and always will be a video clip to see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy Johnson hitting that bird was not a dark moment. It was incredible. I am not pro animal violence or anything but the odds of that happening are astronomical. It is and always will be a video clip to see.</p>
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		<title>By: simon94022</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few more:

1876 -- the original New York and Philadelphia NL franchises do a crude cost-benefit analysis and refuse to play the remainder of their schedule.  They are expelled from the league.

1890s -- dual ownership.  12 franchises, 8 owners. Those who owned two teams could shift all the best players onto one.

1899 -- contraction.  To solve the dual ownership problem, the NL expels Baltimore, Washington, Louisville and Cleveland.

1910-1922 (approx) -- the gambling era.  It was a lot bigger problem than just the Black Sox.  Nothing before or since has done more to erode public confidence in the game&#039;s integrity.

1936-1964 - total Yankees domination.  It&#039;s not just that the Bombers had great teams, as they&#039;d had with Ruth in the 20s, but starting in the mid-1930s their domination of the game was so total that severely damaged the other 15 clubs, and especially the other 7 American League clubs whose fans had absolutely nothing to hope for.

1953-1971 - the relocation era.  Six of the original 16 teams left their home towns, and at least 6 others threatened to, alienating fans across the country.  The Giants/Dodgers move gets the most press today, but some of the worst moves included A&#039;s-to-Kansas City, Braves-to-Atlanta, and Senators-to-Texas.  Those moves didn&#039;t even result in successful franchises in the new cities until decades later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more:</p>
<p>1876 &#8212; the original New York and Philadelphia NL franchises do a crude cost-benefit analysis and refuse to play the remainder of their schedule.  They are expelled from the league.</p>
<p>1890s &#8212; dual ownership.  12 franchises, 8 owners. Those who owned two teams could shift all the best players onto one.</p>
<p>1899 &#8212; contraction.  To solve the dual ownership problem, the NL expels Baltimore, Washington, Louisville and Cleveland.</p>
<p>1910-1922 (approx) &#8212; the gambling era.  It was a lot bigger problem than just the Black Sox.  Nothing before or since has done more to erode public confidence in the game&#8217;s integrity.</p>
<p>1936-1964 &#8211; total Yankees domination.  It&#8217;s not just that the Bombers had great teams, as they&#8217;d had with Ruth in the 20s, but starting in the mid-1930s their domination of the game was so total that severely damaged the other 15 clubs, and especially the other 7 American League clubs whose fans had absolutely nothing to hope for.</p>
<p>1953-1971 &#8211; the relocation era.  Six of the original 16 teams left their home towns, and at least 6 others threatened to, alienating fans across the country.  The Giants/Dodgers move gets the most press today, but some of the worst moves included A&#8217;s-to-Kansas City, Braves-to-Atlanta, and Senators-to-Texas.  Those moves didn&#8217;t even result in successful franchises in the new cities until decades later.</p>
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		<title>By: tuftsb</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for Jeter, I wonder about his absence from the Old Timer&#039;s Day and the salute to trainer Gene Monahan - and return trips to NY by Williams and Torre.. 

Did Jeter believe that Monahan did not treat his bruised ego correctly after the off-season contract kerfuffle? Was it because Minka Kelly&#039;s birthday was Friday the 24th and his birthday was Sunday the 26th and he wanted to spend time with her and not the Yanks?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Jeter, I wonder about his absence from the Old Timer&#8217;s Day and the salute to trainer Gene Monahan &#8211; and return trips to NY by Williams and Torre.. </p>
<p>Did Jeter believe that Monahan did not treat his bruised ego correctly after the off-season contract kerfuffle? Was it because Minka Kelly&#8217;s birthday was Friday the 24th and his birthday was Sunday the 26th and he wanted to spend time with her and not the Yanks?</p>
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		<title>By: writtenbyross</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done, sir. Well done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, sir. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The eviction of poor people from Chavez Ravine is unfairly laid at the Dodgers&#039; feet.  The eviction was planned as part of another redevelopment project well before the Dodgers moved, but was stalled by problems with the planned redevelopment.  It probably would have gone through eventually even if the Dodgers had stayed in Brooklyn.  It was only rich, white neighborhoods like South Pasadena that were able to block those kinds of projects indefinitely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The eviction of poor people from Chavez Ravine is unfairly laid at the Dodgers&#8217; feet.  The eviction was planned as part of another redevelopment project well before the Dodgers moved, but was stalled by problems with the planned redevelopment.  It probably would have gone through eventually even if the Dodgers had stayed in Brooklyn.  It was only rich, white neighborhoods like South Pasadena that were able to block those kinds of projects indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo1949</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bright Side

2 Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa&#039;s home run chase of the Roger Maris record.

Dark Side

Mention of drug abuse in the 80s, nothing about PEDs]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bright Side</p>
<p>2 Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa&#8217;s home run chase of the Roger Maris record.</p>
<p>Dark Side</p>
<p>Mention of drug abuse in the 80s, nothing about PEDs</p>
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		<title>By: mkd</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think for the Dodgers thing to crack the Top 10 you need to lump it in with what&#039;s happening with the Mets, what just happened with the Rangers, what goes on anywhere Jeffery Loiria is and whatever the hell has been going on in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Kansas City, Washington DC, Oakland and Chicago (Cubs version) the last few years. 

The people Bud Selig has approved to be in The Club have been almost uniformly disastrous not just for the teams they own but for baseball in general. It would be naive to think that this is the worse bunch of owners in history, since owners have always been terrible no-goodniks, but this latest batch seems to be hitting new lows. This is what happens when you prize personal fidelity to the commissioner&#039;s office over liquidity and competence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think for the Dodgers thing to crack the Top 10 you need to lump it in with what&#8217;s happening with the Mets, what just happened with the Rangers, what goes on anywhere Jeffery Loiria is and whatever the hell has been going on in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Kansas City, Washington DC, Oakland and Chicago (Cubs version) the last few years. </p>
<p>The people Bud Selig has approved to be in The Club have been almost uniformly disastrous not just for the teams they own but for baseball in general. It would be naive to think that this is the worse bunch of owners in history, since owners have always been terrible no-goodniks, but this latest batch seems to be hitting new lows. This is what happens when you prize personal fidelity to the commissioner&#8217;s office over liquidity and competence.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brooklyn Dodgers 2012..]]></description>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is that bad, because he can&#039;t ruin the Yankees 2011 season now? :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is that bad, because he can&#8217;t ruin the Yankees 2011 season now? <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree about Bartman. To this day I don&#039;t like when a fan gets involved in a play by accident and is vilified. Bartman did something that lots of people have done. It wound up &#039;seeming&#039; to make a difference but the outcome of that Cubs game had more to do with lousy Cubs D than Bartman maybe interfering with a ball that looked more in the seats than in the field.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree about Bartman. To this day I don&#8217;t like when a fan gets involved in a play by accident and is vilified. Bartman did something that lots of people have done. It wound up &#8216;seeming&#8217; to make a difference but the outcome of that Cubs game had more to do with lousy Cubs D than Bartman maybe interfering with a ball that looked more in the seats than in the field.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How does Derek Jeter&#039;s calf injury not make the list?]]></description>
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