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Cole Hamels leaves Sox-Phillies game early

Jun 30, 2011, 2:30 PM EDT

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Cole Hamels was cruising along quite nicely against the Red Sox this afternoon, having shut out Boston on two hits over four innings, but then he faced Adrian Gonzalez for the second time and Gonzalez hit a line drive off Hamels’ hand, which required him to leave the game.

The good news: it was his right hand, and Mr. Hamels happens to pitch with his left.¬†The Phillies are calling it a contusion, and he’s getting some X-Rays. ¬†Updates as warranted, but no one seems to be all that concerned about it.

UPDATE: The Phillies just announced X-rays were negative and that Hamels is expected to make his next start Tuesday night.

  1. Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:32 PM

    Yeah, well as you know from your e-mail…I am concerned about it. The Phillies need Carlton as part of the big 3. Without him, it is Doc and Lee and…and…(puts head in hands and slowly sobs).

    And of course, the second he goes out, the Red Sox come up like wolves to the hen house and kill Herndon for 2 quick runs. Hide the women and children.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:42 PM

      I’m managing to watch the game on an illicit feed and those runs should be attributed to the misplayed ball by Francisco. Should have been a bloop double not a triple. Infield at normal depth with a runner on second gets the 2nd out with the runner moving up to 3rd, walk Scutaro, get Lester. Inning over…..X-rays on Hamels’ hand were negative. Expected to make his next start.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:47 PM

        I hope he does make his next start…Herndon sucks. Now a bomb to the weak-hitting Varitek? Seriously. Jesus.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:49 PM

        Yeah, yeah. I don’t want to bad mouth Herndon. I like him and think he will be a good pitcher. I am, however, all for bad mouthing Ben Francisco. My patience with him is wearing extremely thin.

      • aclassyguyfromaclassytown - Jun 30, 2011 at 6:49 PM

        Monkey, while at work, when I can’t comment on the post’s I skim through, I thumbs up whatever you post without even reading it. Thought you’d like to know.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 8:30 PM

        I appreciate that classguy. I need all the thumbs up I can get. In case you haven’t noticed my comments tend to trend toward getting way more thumbs downs then ups…I’m not sure why.

    • marshmallowsnake - Jun 30, 2011 at 5:27 PM

      Man I wish Biceps was able to log on today so that he could twist this into Adrian spitting on a child as he walked out of the dug-out, giving the bird to everyone in the stands from the batters box while adjusting his cup…and then promptly lining it off Hamels on purpose!

  2. bleedgreen - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:35 PM

    Looked PAINFUL. Knocked the glove off his hand, and bounced off the glove and hit him in the butt of his palm. Good news is that he was moving it around OK and the X-Rays are purely precautionary at this point.

  3. cup0pizza - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:39 PM

    Anything for yet another Phillies story, even a boo-boo on widdle Cole’s pinky finger.

    • Phillies Homer - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM

      I’m pretty sure any time there is any kind of injury to a Cy Young contender, its going to be a story, no matter the team.

      • nps6724 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:46 PM

        What does that hafta do with Hamels? :D

        Good to hear he’s okay. Those liners back at the pitcher can be awful scary.

    • mornelithe - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:01 PM

      Oh come on, be nice. That ball was hammered by Gonzalez, I’ll bet that hurt like a mofo, if not numbing his glove hand completely.

  4. Phillies Homer - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:40 PM

    I don’t fault him for leaving the game and get it checked out… but even if it’s broken, I don’t see why he can’t make his next start since it’s his non-pitching hand. Just “Jim Abbott” it out there!

  5. Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:43 PM

    No Break! Good news.

  6. bleedgreen - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:50 PM

    Wheres the a-holes telling me how Herndon worked out all his mechanical issues in Lehigh Valley? Dude straight up just isn’t that good.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM

      Man, the first two runs were not his fault at all. A mis-played bloop triple, followed by a string of not hard hit ground balls. Francisco was the culprit in that inning. The Varitek homer just carried and carried.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM

        dr, I hate Little Ben as much as the next guy…but you have to admit…Herndon sucks. Just because his degree of suckitutde isn’t as high as Ben’s doesn’t mean he is a legitimate MLB pitcher.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:59 PM

        I think he will be a legit major league reliever. He wasn’t last year and to start this year, but he is coming around. Ben is done. He is awful. It is time to recall Mayberry Jr. They can both barely hit, but at least Jr. is good to excellent defensively.

      • xmatt0926x - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:58 PM

        The best part about Herndon is his arrogant smirk as he walks off the mound after yet another pounding. you can bat him around for 10 runs and he never changes that expression. He has pitched better lately but I’m not convinced yet. As far as Francisco, all you need to do to understand him is watch that sequence in the 7th inning with men on 1st and 2nd, 1 out. The good hitter just wants to hit a solid line drive and keep the momentum going. The .220 hitter with 10 hr per season pop goes up there and thinks “I’m going to tie this game with a homer” and he then pops out. Which description best fits Francisco? But once every 50 or 60 at bats he’ll run into a bad fastball with that nice uppercut swing, hit a homer, and we have to hear for the next 2 weeks that ben is a good hitter who just needs more playing time.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:04 PM

        “ben is a good hitter who just needs more playing time.”

        I think the only people who would say this is Ben’s mom and his extremely hot wife.

  7. skerney - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:51 PM

    off topic, did bicepts get 86ed from HBT?

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:53 PM

      Yes.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:54 PM

      How did that happen??? Where’s the thread…what did he say?

      • Ari Collins - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:59 PM

        It was right at the end of the Adrian Gonzalez to RF thread. It was typical bicepts fare (insulting someone with every post, homophobic slurs, etc.), Craig had just had enough of it. Can’t say he didn’t give bicepts a chance.

      • Ari Collins - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:00 PM

        Maybe you’ll miss a Phillies-fan-in-arms, but he was giving you guys a bad name.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:01 PM

        http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/06/29/confirmed-adrian-gonzalez-to-play-right-field-tonight/

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:39 PM

        I can’t believe I went and got all drunk and left early on the very post that 86’d the bicepts. Now, if I leave early tomorrow to get wasted, who shall fall next?

  8. skerney - Jun 30, 2011 at 2:59 PM

    i’d like to know too.

  9. skerney - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM

    I just read the thread, bicepts was in rare form from the get go. I know there is lots of phillies back and forth here at HBT and most of it is good natured and amusing, but bicepts would go for the low blows every time. Goodt night sweet princet.

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:52 PM

      I’ve also noticed that the thumbs ups and downs have normalized again…hmmmmmmmmmmm

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 5:32 PM

        yep, back to normal.

  10. Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM

    Wow…Holy Crap!!! Just read that thread. I didn’t think bicepts was being any different than his usually asinine self, but I guess enough was enough for Craig. Most people here would probably say I am no better than him and I deserve the banning as well. If it went by thumbs down, I would have been gone the second day they started the thumb rating system. If I ever got banned from here, I would probably have to do actual work…God would that suck.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:16 PM

      I don’t recall you saying anything that would be ban worthy. Having a minority opinion and using personal insults are obviously two different things.

    • aceshigh11 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

      Usually, I’d kid around with the guy and we’d antagonize each other in a semi-friendly way, but yesterday he seemed WAY more out-of-control than usual.

      Maybe I took it more personally because it involved the Red Sox, but he dispensed with the hamfisted humor was just plain nasty.

    • Ari Collins - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:30 PM

      I’m thumbsdowning your self-assessment. I disagree with you about baseball a lot, but you’re not a worthless jerk. (Damning with faint praise, maybe, but there it is.)

    • Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:45 PM

      Craig surprised me big time in this Bicepts banning. He should have been banned long ago for his constant abuse of “the rules”, which are loose to begin with.

      Craig is that your first banned poster on this site?

    • Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:51 PM

      Chris, just because you’re an a-hole doesn’t mean you should be banned too.. ;)
      No lie. I told my brother in law the other day when he said “everyone in the family hates me.” Just because everyone thinks you’re an A-hole doesn’t mean they don’t love you.

    • bennyblanco1 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:58 PM

      Good riddance to bicepts. He had too much hate for anything non-phillie and very rarely said anything semi-intelligent.

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:48 PM

      Chris, I’m pretty sure no one has argued with you more than myself on here. Knowing this, I’m an expert on the topic. You sir, cannot hold a candle to bicepts’ vitriol that he spewed in the comments nearly every day for the last few months. Even when I would tone my own comments down a couple notches, he’d come back guns blazing with “facts” and name-calling. You’ve been nothing but civil in our arguments, even when you’re wrong every single time (you see what I did there?). That makes for good dialog in the comments and I enjoy the banter. I’ve never once enjoyed the banter with the commenter formally know as halladaysbicepts.

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:49 PM

      PS. My mind is still exploding that I missed this in real time yesterday and that CC banned him. Quite a nice pick me up this afternoon while I nurse this Maker’s hangover.

  11. skerney - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:17 PM

    He’ not going out like that, $50 says he’s out buying a new laptop or is creating a new handle down at the public library.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:19 PM

      All he would have to do is change is IP address. I’m not sure how one goes about doing that, but it can probably be done. Honestly, I don’t even know what an IP address is.

      • aceshigh11 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:21 PM

        Be thankful you don’t…we software guys are a weird bunch.

      • mornelithe - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:28 PM

        Your external IP address is typically assigned by your ISP (Service provider), so you’d really have to discuss with them the possibility of getting it changed. As Skerney said, he could simply go to another PC outside of his home/work (whichever IP was in use), and create a new handle. Though, he’d still have to leave the house every time he wanted to post heh.

        IP = Internet Protocol Address, common home networks use 192.168.0.1 or somewhere in that range.

      • FC - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:47 PM

        You could also mask it with a proxy server.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:57 PM

        Guys, stop given bicepts ideas.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:58 PM

        Man, I’m useless today. I can’t even type. BOURBON!!!!!! Damn you!!!!

      • mornelithe - Jul 1, 2011 at 8:37 AM

        @ Heyward: Honestly, this isn’t like we’re revealing a trove of top secret internet info. Most people are aware of these things already.

  12. seanmk - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:18 PM

    talk radio is going to be fun the rest of the day and tommorow when people question hamel’s toughness. this wll be annoying

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

      Not this year…there will always be the idiots out there. But this year, the guy has given everything he had and nobody will doubt his toughness after he just pitched with 103 fever and poison oak the other night. Like I said…there will always be the fringe a-hole. 99% of Phillies fans don’t question Carlton’s toughness anymore.

    • mornelithe - Jul 1, 2011 at 10:39 AM

      Yeah…but those people can be taken with a grain of salt, and simply ignored. I’m a Boston fan, but I don’t blame Hamels (or the teams management, for that matter), for wanting to make sure he wasn’t continuing to play in an injured state. That shot had to hurt, and it’s much better to take him out, and make sure he’s ok, rather than risk exacerbating an injury.

  13. dirtyharry1971 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:20 PM

    this is the same guy who couldnt wait for the season to be over when he was playing in the world series right? LOL

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:22 PM

      Don’t be an ass. That whole thing was taken way out of context. He has grown up and matured as a pitcher and person since then.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:25 PM

        Like I said dr…fringe a-hole. Plus this guy is a Yankers fan…

      • Ari Collins - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:31 PM

        And one of the more insulting Yankee fans.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jun 30, 2011 at 5:05 PM

        And one of the more insulting Yankee fans.

        Don’t knock all of us for one comment. I think most rational people understood that Hamels was having a [relatively] bad year and was just hoping for a new start.

        Oh and btw, it gave me a little chuckle to see all those comments from Fiorentino about Yankees whining over injuries, only to see the first comment :)

      • Ari Collins - Jun 30, 2011 at 5:11 PM

        Oh, I wasn’t saying that Yankee fans are particularly insulting. I was just saying that out of Yankee fans, dirtyharry is one of the more insulting ones.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Jun 30, 2011 at 8:46 PM

        No it was pretty loud and clear, Cole just doesnt have the heart and how do you know how much he has grown up? You stop by his house? Please your a clown

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 1, 2011 at 9:59 AM

        That is typical nonsense coming from you. You can absolutely tell how much somebody has grown up by such things as demeanor, mound presence, post game interviews, etc. Instead of realizing the obvious you decide to call me a clown and make comments with vague homophobic undertones. Do me a favor and find a FULL transcript or youtube of the interchange and get back to me.

  14. aceshigh11 - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:23 PM

    It’s unfortunate that Hamels got injured…this could have shaped up to be one helluva pitcher’s duel given how Lester is dealing so far.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 3:36 PM

      Given how the bullpen has performed this game, plus the lack of any discernible offense from the Phillies, this is the reason why watching Cole shake his hand the way he did had me on the phone to everyone I could contact to find out what the prognosis was. Thankfully it is only a bruise and he is expected to make his next start. But considering the way the Phillies like to downplay injuries…I won’t be 100% comfortable until I see him on the mound again next Tuesday or Wednesday.

      • dirtyharry1971 - Jun 30, 2011 at 8:49 PM

        Dont worry i called Cole’s dad after the game and he swears he will make his next start so you can get a good night sleep tonight. pathetic already!

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 1, 2011 at 10:00 AM

        I am usually not bothered by internet trolls and people who get “internet muscles” but this dirtyharry guy really pisses me off. He gives New Yorkers a bad name.

      • mornelithe - Jul 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM

        @ Dr: That’s exactly the kind of response trolls look for. Just ignore him.

  15. FC - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:03 PM

    Adrian Gonzalez applies the old saying: If you can’t beat’em, hit him with a line drive and take him out. Then score runs off the Bullpen :) J/K That was a bad piece of luck for the Phillies and a good piece of luck for the Red Sox as it turned out.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:07 PM

      For the sabre guys out there, even though A-Gon went 0-4 with a walk and 2 k’s today, his WAR has to go up by one after knocking out Hamels, right? Provided of course that Papelbon can save this game today.

  16. Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM

    Look out! Is this a 9th inning rally?

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:08 PM

      With little Ben coming up, I doubt it.

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:09 PM

        You nailed it. He did not.

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:10 PM

        Seriously, would you start BF or Mayberry?

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:12 PM

        I’d probably be more inclined to start a pitching machine over either of those two guys actually. But why not PH Brown in that spot against Paps?

      • Jonny 5 - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:17 PM

        He faced Jenks. Either way BF is a dud.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:21 PM

        I’d go with Mayberry. I think he is a better hitter and I know he is a far superior outfielder.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:29 PM

        BF faced Jenks? MLB.com had Papelbon coming in after Victorino got on base. Guess they were wrong.

      • FC - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:54 PM

        The Box Score says Jenks only pitched 0.1 IP, And Howard homered with Polanco on base so Utley was the out Jenks got. Ben Francisco had to have faced Papelbon. I think Charlie should have PH Brown in that situation. Who knows, maybe Brown delivers or maybe not.

  17. aceshigh11 - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:14 PM

    Papelbon never fails to make it interesting. What a lunk he is.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 4:50 PM

      Papelbon came in and got the two batters he faced. I agree he is a lunk but he did nothing wrong today.

  18. steve959 - Jun 30, 2011 at 6:23 PM

    Been reading this site for a long time and never commented, but just had to now. Thank you Craig for ridding the site of bicepts! He really ruined some great conversations.

    One other thing I noticed in that other thread was everyone clamoring for an “edit comment” option. That is indeed possible in wordpress, as Ive implemented it for several of my clients. Craig, if you are interested in adding that feature let me know as I would be happy to help out.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 6:42 PM

      I’ve been championing the cause for an edit feature and would like to personally thank you for knowledge regarding the situation. One can only hope that Craig takes you up on your offer. Hey, did you happen to read my theory on Aroldis Chapman’s control problems? If so, what do you think?

      • steve959 - Jun 30, 2011 at 6:57 PM

        mattafact i did and was thoroughly impressed with your dedication to helping solve a problem with a player thats not on the phils roster.

        Now maybe you should see what you can surmise about benny fresh’s suckitude, though I think he chews big league chew.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jun 30, 2011 at 8:34 PM

        I just think he sucks. Can’t help him out there. I do, however, think Ibanez needs to cut down on the chewing tobacco. When he was younger he could make up for it with better reflexes. At this point the added distraction of trying not to choke on that much tobacco has to be adversely affecting his batting. I’d do an experiment on that, but I would probably throw up.

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