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Joe Maddon tells us the real reason why he didn’t want a split-doubleheader today

Jul 9, 2011, 1:02 PM EST

Joe Maddon

As you’re probably aware, a mini-controversy brewed following last night’s rainout at Yankee Stadium. The Yankees could have opted for a single-admission doubleheader today without the Rays’ permission, but Brian Cashman admitted that they didn’t want to lose the gate for an 81st home game. However, they were unable to convince the Rays to play a split-doubleheader. Hence, the game will be made up on September 22.

The Rays’ decision obviously upset many Yankees’ fans who paid a premium to Derek Jeter‘s latest attempt at 3,000 hits. It also gives Jeter just two games to reach the milestone at home before the Yankees go out on the road following the All-Star break.

Fortunately, Rays manager Joe Maddon took to Twitter this morning to give us his side of the story.

“Real reason we didn’t want the doubleheader? I had dinner reservations tonight. Been looking forward to it for months!”

Nicely played, Joe. But hasn’t anyone ever told you to not feed the trolls?

  1. spudchukar - Jul 9, 2011 at 1:21 PM

    As usual, Maddon’s decision to postpone game 2 until late September comes with strategic and political smarts. The Yankees have a brutal August schedule, they are old, they are starting to mount injuries, their pitching is questionable and they have already lost the first game in this series of scheduled 4. Come September, aided by late-season call-ups the Rays have the edge. So with Price and Shields scheduled to go in the final two games a series win in New York is possible. Plus this allows Hellickson, who, as a rookie, is not used to major innings to get some time off before his next start.

    On the political front the Yankees can bitch all they want. If they really cared about those fans with tickets to see Jeter and the Why3K, then schedule the single admission double-header. But as usual, New York only sees it through Pinstripe Eyes, and expect the Rays to bend over. And as usual, the Rays are having none of it.

    • screename529 - Jul 9, 2011 at 1:50 PM

      With the Yankees mounting injuries, wouldn’t it be better to play them with those guys out, instead of theoretically in September when the Yankees are as likely to be healthy as the Rays (age notwithstanding- again, those guys are actually out right now)? Also the Yankees will most likely have traded for someone and filled out the holes in the roster by then. So it’s possible, if not likely, that the Yankees have a much stronger roster than they do now, whereas the Rays, limited by their budget, can’t improve as much. Honestly, I don’t see any reason for the Rays to do this other than to prove they won’t be “bullied” which seems childish.

    • bigharold - Jul 9, 2011 at 2:03 PM

      “The Yankees have a brutal August schedule, they are old, they are starting to mount injuries, ..”

      They got guys that are hurting now. It’s a great big assumption that they will be hurting in September. In fact, if A-Rod does get his knee scoped he’ll likely be 100% by then.

      “Come September, aided by late-season call-ups the Rays have the edge.”

      Come September the Yankees will have call up too, … like Nova and Montero, … The Rays have zero edge.

      “… Yankees can bitch all they want. If they really cared about those fans with tickets to see Jeter and the Why3K, then schedule the single admission double-header.”

      If they scheduled a double header, than either Friday’s ticket holders or Saturday’s would have been left out so your point has no merit. They couldn’t get ticket holders from both games in at the same time.

      I’m a not annoyed about this because I in fact had tickets to last nights game. My daughter got last nights tickets months ago and came from Albany for the weekend to see the game. If they had played a day night double header I would be going to the game today or tomorrow with my daughter. This is important not because of Jeter’s 3000 hit but because now she won’t because as a school teacher and now she can’t go.

      And, that’s the way it goes sometimes. What is annoying is Madden’s asinine remark that he didn’t choose to play a day nighter because he had dinner reservations. That is a horse’s ass statement directed at Yankee fans that Madden probably thinks is very funny. It just reinforces my opinion that while he might be a good baseball manager he’s an ASS too.

  2. jimbo1949 - Jul 9, 2011 at 2:21 PM

    Yeah, I called this earlier, big plans in the Big Apple on Saturday Night. Didn’t think it would be the manager though.

    .
    however, POINT IS MOOT

  3. crankyfrankie - Jul 9, 2011 at 2:26 PM

    The yankees did not want to lose a home game gate. Thats all. The expanded rosters will help both teams , perhaps the Rays a bit more with Jennings. I am sure the dinner reservations line was a joke and humor is too subjective to be successful all of the time.

    • nixonotis - Jul 9, 2011 at 2:46 PM

      I laughed.

  4. spudchukar - Jul 9, 2011 at 3:03 PM

    The argument that the Yankees are hurting now, and perhaps it is better to play them now is valid. But when weighed against other factors, the scale still tips in the Rays direction with a later date. By forcing the Yankees to play on Sept. 22, it takes away the Yankees last day off in the final two weeks of the season. It also means the Yanks play ten straight before the final 3 in Tampa. Advantage Rays.

    It is hardly some grand leap of faith to believe the Yankees will be as injured later then now. Only A-Rod is out of the line-up, and the notion that he will be 100%, 2 months after meniscus surgery comes from someone who has never had meniscus surgery. He may well be better than he is right now, but 100% is risible.

    To suggest the Yankees have a minor league system that mirrors the Rays is preposterous. Plus the Rays have better major league ready call-ups. You truly want to defend the abilities of Nova, and a struggling Montero, with the likes of Archer, Bush, Cobb, Jennings, Guyer, McGee et al?

    I sympathize with you and your daughter’s and inability to see the game, but if the Yankees weren’t all about the cash, today’s ticket holders would have doubled their chances of seeing #3000. This is a small microcosm that illustrates why so many past Yankee fans are so disillusioned by the current Yankee arrogance. What we hear is, Yes we expect to keep our financial advantage, and still expect our competition to acquiesce to our demands, and if we do not get our way, then we bitch to high heaven, and castigate our foes for the gall to expect equal treatment or fair play. It is similar, when trade discussions are commented on here at HBT. Over and Over again, certain players become rumored to have gained interest by the Yankee front office, but when valuable minor league assets are mentioned as possible trade partners, they become untouchable. Yankee fans want their cake(or pie) and eat it too.

    As for Madden’s answer I find it clever, diplomatic, and discussion-ending. Had the situation been reversed, and Girardi made a similar, but undoubtedly less artful remark, I am sure you would have found it to be hysterical.

    • bigharold - Jul 9, 2011 at 3:47 PM

      “As for Madden’s answer I find it clever, diplomatic, and discussion-ending.”

      What is was, and is, disrespectful of fans. As in, some minor dining consideration is more important than what 45-50K fans, you know the people that play the bills, plans for the weekend. It was completely uncalled for and therefore makes him an ass. And, no had Girardi made a similarly stupid remark I what have that that asinine too. Of course, Girardi has more intelligence then that so he wouldn’t have need to be “artful”.

      Regardless of the real reason the Rays chose to play the game in September Madden comes across as jerk. I wonder if his remark was just as funny to a Rays fan that had tickets to last nights, … forget that. The Rays can’t get their “fans” to go to the games in Tampa, .. they sure aren’t traveling to the Bronx for a game.

      • spudchukar - Jul 9, 2011 at 4:40 PM

        Once again this goes to the solipsistic Yankee fan mind. Anyone with any sense of perspective knows that Madden wasn’t serious about delaying the game for a future date so he could keep his dinner commitment. He was being coy. He also has zero obligation to Yankee fans. This is what is so appalling. That you would even consider or mention that Madden should give a rats ass about what is good for your team. And that is why his comment becomes even more humorous in light of your Yankee-first, spoiled-ass attitude. It is exactly the type of response that would be expected by Yankees managers, only in all seriousness. And it is why it plays so well to those who aren’t comically blinded by your sense of entitlement.

        Incidentally, congratulations on Jeter’s fabulous day, he did it with style, but that has generally been his way. Too bad Yankee fans are incapable of emulating his grace.

        And I hope you beat the crap out of Red Sox the next time you play them, and not just for the Rays sake.

      • spudchukar - Jul 9, 2011 at 4:42 PM

        Er, *Rays’

      • bigharold - Jul 9, 2011 at 4:59 PM

        “Once again this goes to the solipsistic Yankee fan mind. Anyone with any sense of perspective knows that Madden wasn’t serious about delaying the game for a future date so he could keep his dinner commitment.”

        Then all the more reason he should have kept his idiotic remark to himself. Snarky remarks to the paying customers is generally something that gets people fired in the real world! Of course he’s a MLB manager he doesn’t really live in the “real world”. Yet his complete disregard for or inability to comprehend that his remarks could be offensive is as mind boggling. And, this has nothing to do with me or even Yankee fans. So it has nothing to do with being self absorbed. It’s not considered smart to piss off the people that pay the bills.

        You comment that “…clever, diplomatic, and discussion-ending.” yeah that’s true, .. sort of like telling somebody to go eff themselves.

        You are entitled to your opinion but in mine, .. Madden once again acted like an ass. No surprise there at all.

      • spudchukar - Jul 9, 2011 at 5:25 PM

        A) You will keep paying the bills, regardless what Joe Madden says. B) He knows this. C) His responsibility is to those paying him directly. D) A fairly good definition of solipsistic is the belief that “your world” is the “real world”. E) Your view of Madden seems to be a minority one, held primarily by Yankee and Red Sox fans whose perception is distorted by his teams’ consistent whipping of your high paid franchises in the years 2008-2011.

    • jwbiii - Jul 9, 2011 at 4:15 PM

      “Only A-Rod is out of the line-up, and the notion that he will be 100%, 2 months after meniscus surgery comes from someone who has never had meniscus surgery”

      I have. It was done with an arthroscope. I was good enough to play in three weeks, as good as new in six (I was also running track, so I have objective evidence of this). Two other factors:
      1) I was 16
      2) I bet Rodriguez gets better PT than I did 30+ years ago

      • spudchukar - Jul 9, 2011 at 4:22 PM

        You were 16.

  5. Reflex - Jul 9, 2011 at 5:55 PM

    Just gotta say, to people like me who are not Sox or Yanks fans, Maddon is like a more intelligent version of Guillen. Amusing as hell, and not nearly so offensive. Love his comments.

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