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UPDATE: The Yankees have ruled out Carlos Beltran

Jul 19, 2011, 10:34 AM EDT

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Ah, late July. When a perfectly good blog post I spend several minutes on (as far as you know) gets mooted just a few minutes later.

Regarding that report about the Yankees talking to the Mets about Carlos Beltran: yeah, forget it.  Bob Klapsich reports that the Yankees have ruled him out as “not a fit.”

Expect this kind of report/update/counter-update stuff to rule the day for the next couple of weeks.  And don’t you dare complain. I see the traffic and I know that someone eats this stuff up.

  1. uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM

    He may not be a fit for this season because the Yankees have 2 stellar performers already (Jones and Posada) doing what they would want Beltran to do. I’m being sarcastic, in case no one realizes it. But who knows for the 2012 season. Could be an ideal fit. Part time right fielder and part time DH. Stranger things have happened.

    • deathmonkey41 - Jul 19, 2011 at 12:30 PM

      Hey, if it’s getting late and the Yanks are up big and want to call it a nite and go home, Jorge is invaluable. He can ground into a DP with the greatest of all time and kill a rally like nobody’s business.

    • pjmarn6 - Jul 19, 2011 at 6:08 PM

      Did Craig Calcaterra write this cream puff piece because he was invited to Jeter´s $20,000,000 tampa house warming party?

  2. yankeesfanlen - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 AM

    Ruling out Ubaldo Jimenez would be a much better blog post to see.

  3. entersandman42ny - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    I don’t think the Yankees need a bat like Carlos Beltran to fill in at dh/corner outfield, I think they need someone less expensive that can play against left handed pitching. Andruw Jones isn’t playing up to what was expected and Girardi insists on playing him over Gardner and Posada. If Girardi allows Posada to play everyday against both lefties and righties, he will be alright and the Yankees offensive will be ok.

    • jimfowler1 - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:45 AM

      As much as I love Jorge, I think sentiment may be clouding your judgment regarding his effectiveness as an everyday hitter this year. It’s sad to see our favorites age and struggle, but I’m not sure more at-bats are going to change anything for Posada at this point.

    • spindervish - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:55 AM

      It seems to me Yankee fans need to relax on Andruw. The guy has an .861 OPS against left-handed pitching with 6 home runs in 72 ABs. How the hell is that “not playing up to what was expected”? True, he’s been completely worthless against righties, but that should’ve been expected as well and he’s only received 23 ABs against them as a result. What the hell do you people want from him?

  4. yankeesfanlen - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:43 AM

    By the way, it’s “Lyin’ Time” again for two weeks for Cashman.
    We’ll probably get King Felix or something
    [ducks bricks and bats thrown with obviously intended malice]

    • tigertigerwoodsyall - Jul 19, 2011 at 3:18 PM

      they’d win it all at that point. their offense plus CC and Felix as number 1 & 2…..they can line up with anyone (and they should be able to if they’re spending that much loot!)

  5. kopy - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:43 AM

    I’d be really curious to know what precludes someone from being a “fit” with the Yankees. I’ve always thought they’ll take anything.

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:46 AM

      They have to be able to handle NY media is what I’m always hearing. Greinke is a good example of “not a good fit” b/c he’d probably go all fetal position during his first Yankees press conference.

    • Ari Collins - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:54 AM

      Just not a great fit for their roster. Swisher’s been hitting like Swisher since a slow start, and Beltran wouldn’t be that big an upgrade.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:57 AM

        Swisher hitting like Swisher? I hate that dude so much. He is such a Yankee. I hated on the White Sox too, but now he’s just pure douche. Got, what a freakin’ douche. I can’t tell you how much Swisher sucks, all I can say is that he is so terrible. Puke.

        None of this is fact-based, I just find him repulsive. I do know that Swisher is complete garbage compared to Beltran.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:59 AM

        So angry about Swisher in my previous comment that it is riddled with more typos than Swisher is riddled with crabs. What a scrote that guy is.

      • kopy - Jul 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM

        I’ve always hated the guy too, way back to his Athletics days. All he does is play for teams that beat the Twins in playoffs and game 163s, while being a douche. Saying he is “such a Yankee” is a really apt observation.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 19, 2011 at 11:06 AM

        You don’t have Swish on you fantasy team Bravo?

      • yankeesfanlen - Jul 19, 2011 at 11:17 AM

        He’s on mine.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jul 19, 2011 at 11:41 AM

        The day I put Swisher on my fantasy team is the same day I have a Cubs player on my squad. Remember, I’m good at this.

  6. yournuts - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:47 AM

    Who really wants to give the farm system to an aging outfielder who spends more time on the DL than the field? Even if the Mets pick up the balance of his contract, they will need to get a couple of pitchers in return. Perhaps the Giants will part with Madison Bumgardner or Matt Cain.

    • Ari Collins - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:55 AM

      You have literally no idea how to value players.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 19, 2011 at 10:55 AM

      I thought that the Giants were buyers not sellers. There goes another illusion. Lets get this 2 weeks over with. The stories get more strange as we go on.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 19, 2011 at 2:20 PM

      “Perhaps the Giants will part with Madison Bumgardner or Matt Cain.”

      I believe this sentence is what LMFAO was invented for……..

  7. genericcommenter - Jul 19, 2011 at 12:21 PM

    Because they don’t want to give up prospects for a rental who has no position ( fit) on the team. Sure, they could possibly upgrade the Andruw Jones role ( though, as mentioned, he has been pretty good against lefties..and, uh, that was supposed to be his only role), but you don’t give up so much value for a marginal improvement of a niche role. A top of the line starting pitcher is a completely different scenario.

    I’ve been a lifetime Yankees fan ( They didn’t make playoffs at all until I was 16, so no bandwagon guy here), so I probably know more about their fans than any other team except the Orioles. Whenever I see fans ( or non-fans, since it’s the Yankees) speculating and agitating for upgrades of niche roles, I wonder if fans of any other teams give this much consideration to role players. I mean, most teams have a hard time fielding average starting players. The league is littered with failed Yankees who find a role somewhere, at least temporarily. You can’t expect (current) All-Stars to be bench players for the Yankees nor would they want to. Guys who could be the 2nd or 3rd best player on a lot of teams probably aren’t looking to be the 4th OF on the Yankees. That’s why you have specialists/role players/farm teams.

    • themanchine - Jul 19, 2011 at 12:28 PM

      Don’t you know, us level-headed and logical Yankee fans don’t really exist?

    • deathmonkey41 - Jul 19, 2011 at 1:36 PM

      Ha- I’m a bit older that you, but not old enough to remember the good Yankees teams of the late 70’s/ early 80’s. I spent many afternoons and nights at Yankees stadium seeing the likes of Tim Leary, Andy Hawkins, Matt Nokes, Pat Kelly, Claudelle Washington, Alvaro Espinoza, Steve Trout….ugh and the list seemed to go on and on. And then the young guns came blazing to the rescue, but unfortunately they came in the form of Wade Taylor, Jeff Johnson, and Scott Kamenicki (sp?). Then Brien Taylor was going to be the savior, but he got hurt in an underage bar fight, and then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, then the arabs bought Mercedes Benzes… Sorry, you got me reminiscing. People seem to forget that the Yankees went through many lean years there for a while, so I don’t pay much mind to all the “bandwagon” jibber-jabber. Philly fans are learning that having a good team that is a favorite to win it all will get you plenty of hanger-ons, but that doesn’t mean there weren’t fans there through the tough times.

    • uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2011 at 3:01 PM

      Gentlemen, I’m a bit older and have been a Yankees fan longer then many of the posters on this site have been alive. I certainly wouldn’t advocate the Yankees give up a bunch of prospects for Beltran be it as a rental or anything else. But Jones is terrible even as a platoon player for the Yankees. Yes, that’s just my opinion. But even just against lefties his numbers are not good. Yes, he has 6 HR’s but upon closer review 4 of those 6 HR’s are against 1 team the Jays in 2 games and 3 of those 4 are against one pitcher of the Jays (Reyes). If you take away those 2 games from his stats his stats so far this year against lefties has him batting .197 even for a niche player that’s not good. To say that Beltran wouldn’t be an upgrade over both Jones and Posada (assuming a reasonable cost) is close your eyes and mind to the reality of the players in question. And should Beltran be available at the start of FA in 2012 the Yankees would be foolish not to make him an offer to be a part time right fielder and part time DH. He is so much of an upgrade over the present players (Jones and Posada) it defies the imagination. That too is just my opinion.

    • tigertigerwoodsyall - Jul 19, 2011 at 3:28 PM

      I don’t doubt your fandom, but I’m having a hard time finding a 15 or 16 year stretch where the Yankees didn’t make it to the playoffs, unless you’re referring to the “dark years” from 82-93. They would have made the playoffs in 94 but we all know what happened there. Then they went on their playoff run in 95.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 19, 2011 at 5:03 PM

        True- but when you’re 10 yrs old and you started watching the Yankees at that time, losing is pretty much all you know- especially in the late 80’s/ early 90s. They put out some pretty attrocious teams. 18 yrs without a World Series might not been a lot- especially compared with the droughts other teams had, but damn it seemed like forever when I was growing up. Especially every time we played the Mariners and were reminded of one of the worst trades in baseball history…

  8. yankeesfanlen - Jul 19, 2011 at 3:51 PM

    uyf – You state that perfectly and thank you. The only point I might add is that on a team like the Yankees all players need to step up so that we have the “circular lineup” we are known for. Jones and Posada are “holes” in this lineup, and then as well a certain shortstop at the top of the order doesn’t help either.
    In other words, I want confidence in whoever comes up to bat to be able to get the merry-go-round rolling and not kill potential rallies. On the pitching portion, except for CC we can usually count on giving up +- 4 runs, we need to over-compensate by having capable hitters.
    And I always get a chuckle about posters who want to save the Yankees money. Sorry, that ain’t the problem.

    • uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2011 at 4:00 PM

      My friend here is a great link on Yankeeanalysts on evaluating the possibe Jimenez trade. I think you will find it interesting.

      http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/2011/07/ubaldo-and-the-trade-value-calculator-32198

      • yankeesfanlen - Jul 19, 2011 at 4:10 PM

        Thanks, that a good method of valuation. And of course, we shouldn’t bother with Jimenez anyway.
        Do you follow twitter? From that blog @MosheTYA is always clever during games.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2011 at 4:11 PM

        yankeesfanlen, no I don’t I do have a tweeter account. But more often then not I forget to look at it. Thanks though, I may take a look at your suggestion.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 19, 2011 at 4:14 PM

        “twitter” sorry.

  9. purnellmeagrejr - Jul 20, 2011 at 10:15 AM

    My post from yesterday, “The article seemed to be a lure to get Mets and Yankees followers to read it – in that it was successful.”
    Craig’s column today,” I see the traffic and I know that someone eats this stuff up.”

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