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And That Happened: Wednesday’s scores and highlights

Jul 21, 2011, 5:51 AM EDT

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Dodgers 1, Giants 0: In 1968, a gallon of gas cost 34 cents, the average cost of a car was $2,282 and the federal minimum wage was $1.60.  In other news, Clayton Kershaw (8 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 12K)  beat Tim Lincecum (7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 7K).

Mets 6, Cardinals 5:  The walkoff homer from Angel Pagan in the bottom of the tenth. But he doesn’t get all of the kudos. Some are owed to Jason Isringhausen, who gave a valiant effort in two innings of relief, including striking out Albert Pujols, Matt Holliday and Lance Berkman consecutively between the ninth and tenth innings.

Rockies 3, Braves 2: Carlos Gonzalez with the walkoff RBI single off Eric O’Flaherty. Why was Eric O’Flaherty, the Braves third best reliever, pitching with runners on in the ninth inning instead of one of the Braves’ All-Star relievers? Because the damn book says you (a) use your setup man in the eighth inning, so yep, Johnny Venters had to be in there in the eighth; and (b) you never use your closer in a tie game on the road because then the gods up on Olympus will release the friggin’ Kraken and innocent women and children will be killed. Or at least that’s what Fredi Gonzalez’ book says, because that’s the way he manages.

Angels 9, Rangers 8: A six-run sixth inning brings the Angles back to beat the Rangers, ending their winning streak. All good things must come to an end. Or, if you’re an Angels fan, all bad things, I suppose.

Twins 7, Indians 5: Danny Valencia was the hero  For the second day in row, singling in what proved to be the winning run. The Twins and Tribe split the series, further establishing that no one really wants to win the AL Central.

Phillies 9, Cubs 1: Two homers for Jimmy Rollins.  Vance Worley gave up one run over eight innings as the Phillies win it in a laugher.  Game time temperature was 97 degrees with high humidity and the Phillies had a huge lead all game, so why Worley pitched eight innings I have no idea. I mean, it’s not like Phillies pitchers have been affected by the heat in Chicago already or anything.

Red Sox 4, Orioles 0: Andrew Miller walked six guys in five and two-thirds innings and the Orioles still couldn’t score. That’s just kinda sad.

Astros 3, Nationals 2: Break up the Astros. They’ve won two in a row — and a series —  for the first time in a month. Jason Michaels with the game-winning single in the 11th.

Reds 3, Pirates 1: Chase d’Arnaud had two critical errors, one in the first, one in the fifth, that let the Reds score a couple of runs.  Of course, when you only score one run yourself, you don’t leave yourself that much of a margin for such things.

Yankees 4, Rays 0: Anyone else getting the distinct impression that the Rays are falling out contention? Freddy Garcia is no slouch, but he shouldn’t shut you out into the seventh inning if you have any designs on contending.

Padres 14, Marlins 3: Not Ricky Nolasco‘s night (1.1 IP, 9 H, 9 ER). And, mere hours after I voiced dread over the prospect of Ryan Ludwick being traded to the Braves, he drives in four runs.

Blue Jays 11, Mariners 6: It just keeps getting worse for the Mariners, who drop their 11th straight. A three-run homer for Travis Snider, who drove in five on the night. Homers for Adam Lind and Edwin Encarnacion as well.

Athletics 7, Tigers 5: Hideki Matsui hit his 500th career home run (NPB + MLB of course). He also hit the go-ahead-for-good RBI single in the seventh. Eleven pitchers were used in this one. I note that because it seems odd to see that this season. It’s far less common than it was even just a couple of years ago. I suppose depressed offense will do that for you.

Royals 2, White Sox 1: Runners at first and third with two out in the 11th, and Ozzie Guillen calls for Sergio Santos.  Santos goes 3-1 to Billy Butler and then throws a wild pitch, allowing Alex Gordon to score from third. Ozzie probably blew a gasket.

Brewers 5, Diamondbacks 2: Nyjer Morgan, Ryan Braun and Rickie Weeks all hit RBI singles in the 10th inning.  Academic though given the carnage in this one: Stephen Drew broke his ankle and Carlos Gomez broke his collarbone. This obviously hurts both teams playoff chances.

  1. proudlycanadian - Jul 21, 2011 at 6:19 AM

    Things might be getting worse for the Mariners, but things are getting better for ex Mariner Brandon Morrow who beat his old team yesterday. Things are also looking much better for the Jays as Snider and Thames have been great since their recall from Triple A. The Jays have a couple of more fine hitting prospects (Lawrie and Cooper) at Triple A, which means that they can trade both Encarnacion (great game yesterday) and Patterson.
    I also want to congratulate former Expos broadcaster Dave Van Horne who just won the Ford C. Frick Award.

    • cur68 - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:20 AM

      Man you get up early PC. Do you just rise with the sun or are you afflicted with insomnia?

      Hey, great news about Dave Van Horne. Way to go Dave!

      As for the game, it was a laugher. Jays needed one of those after 15 innings of fight back against that brute Pineda. So the BeaverBoys are 7 – 3 in their last 10. Its a measure of how far they’ve slipped that this is only brings them back to .500. Now they go for the sweep against Fister.

      On the trade front, they don’t need Dotel or Patterson but Encarnacion is their stud DH now. His production is too good to trade, unless its for another reliever but whoever that might be needs to be a serious upgrade over both Give-up-a-Homer Dotel & Francisco. In fact Frankie is trade bait too. Bundle him with Dotel and try and get 1 one good pitcher for them both, but KEEP Encarnacion. Davis can platoon CF and pinch run while they get Cooper & Lawrie into games rotating them through CF, DH, and 3rd. Bautista’s ankle still looks tender. He wasn’t running any where near has hard as usual yesterday so he can play DH, 3rd and get half games off if they get big leads for the remainder of July.

      • proudlycanadian - Jul 21, 2011 at 11:44 AM

        I rise with the sun. I would rather have Lawrie and Cooper in the lineup than Encarnacion and Patterson. The latter 2 are on 1 year contracts and are not part of the future.

    • pjmarn6 - Jul 21, 2011 at 3:09 PM

      I remember when baseball games were free to watch on tv and hear on radio and seats were reasonably priced. Now we have $2000 seats at yankee stadium, no free radio or tv and players get multimillion dollar salaries for hitting .250 or having 5.00 era. How has this enourmous increase in salaries and forced payment to hear or watch the game benefitted the fan? What value extra has been added to the game to legitmatize this?

  2. kiwicricket - Jul 21, 2011 at 6:42 AM

    Question…How can Dan Uggla hit 17HR’s by July 11th, and still only have a .380 slugging percentage??? Does this not seem like a strange figure to you?

    • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:56 AM

      Not at all. It’s just an extreme form of the Uggla we knew here in Macondo for many years. Whereas Uggla is undeniably having a terrible year in most respects, he has always been a “swing hard in case you hit it” type of hitter. This season, he’s just not hitting it as often as he used to, but when he does, well, he’s got those huge arms and Popeye forearms. When he was with the Feesh, Uggla would go through long stretches of human windmillery, swinging at balls in the dirt, over his head, five feet th’ other side of th’ plate and behind him.

      I have a leucistic pet snapping turtle (who happens to be ivory white, like a netsuke) who snaps viciously at anything walking near his aquarium – you always hear a ‘toonk!’ when he bangs his idiot head against the glass as you go by. This used to remind me of Uggla’s batting philosophy before he was seconded to the Bravos.

      • kiwicricket - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:20 AM

        Ha ‘Human windmillery’ …..there are a few of those this year. Been meaning to ask actually Gator, spent any time in India by chance? Figured you might of tagged along with Harrison and co. for sitar lessons with Ravi Shankar at some point?

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:48 AM

        I have been to India, yes. I took a summer Sanskrit language seminar at Dharmaram College in Bangalore (I studied Sanskrit for four years in undergrad and grad school on the way to my MA in theology). I ate, I drank and I was merry, and I got typhoid and dysentery, la la la. I also traveled up to Nepal and Sikkim, where there was as yet no Maoist guerrilla movement. I brought back a genuine Yeti fur sherpa’s cap (with the little paper tag with the white footprint in a black circle to prove it was the real stuff). On a cold winter day at high altitude, nothing keeps your ears warm better than genuine Yeti. Not even beaver. But then, I always depended on beaver to keep my nose warm.

      • kiwicricket - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:06 AM

        Keeping your nose warm possibly helped enhance your culinary sensibilities then. And that is the neck of the woods I am to venture actually. Well, in the rural parts 100km out of Bangalore. Bright and shiny new winery with around 1000acres of vines needs looking after. Feel like I have bitten off more than I can chew this time though. Your local dish of choice?

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:11 AM

        I have come to know some people from India, from both sides of the Hindu and Sikh backgrounds. I’ve come to find out that the Hindus aren’t as peaceful as the western world has come to imagine. I also found out I never want to live in India.

      • cur68 - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM

        Hey some parts of India have achieved nearly 14% indoor toilet use. Natch this means ~ 86% of my grandfather’s people use . . . well I’m not sure what but I hear the smell is epic. Hits you as soon as you get off the plane. As for Hindus not being peaceful; yup. Easily among the scrappiest groups in Asia. Been going to war with everyone, including themselves, since records have been kept. Must be all that spicy food.

      • kiwicricket - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:28 AM

        But Jonny, they have cricket! (And dubious minor league Pirates pitching prospects if I remember correctly)

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM

        Cur, I have seen people look at toilets like they have never seen one before, because they haven’t. And I have heard stories about law enforcement that make the guys who beat Rodney king look like they were giving him felacio. I know a man who’s business partner was drinking and crashed his truck into a bus of Hindus killing some on board. He was shot in the head at the sight of the crime. The man I knew then fled the country after being subjected to extortion by these authorities that got to the point where his 8 year old son was murdered as a warning for him to pay up. The police killed his son and there isn’t anything short of hunting them down killing them himself that he could do.

      • cur68 - Jul 21, 2011 at 11:27 AM

        J5 a goodly portion of my genetic heritage was shanghaied out of India to go work in the West Indies and South America for the British. When I heard that story I was outraged. Then I did a little research and discovered what they were stolen from and taken too. Talk about a lucky break for me.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 12:06 PM

        That is an interesting and positive way to look at things Cur. You have indeed benefited more than likely in the long run. Not to take anything away from how disgustingly wrong the premise of how your ancestors were brought to the west indies in the first place was. The Damn British again. They pretty much started a complete economy that ran on the back of slavery in this country. What a tough thing it was to undo as well.

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 2:32 PM

        Kiwi:

        Masala dosa, definitely. I like them crunchy on the outside, which means leaving them on the griddle a little longer than usual before, and a little longer than usual after, stuffing them with the potatoes, peas and curries and rolling them. Sometimes I just like eating the dosa straight in place of, say, nan or paratha. Also very fond of Idli, which I liked in a raita that was both sweet and peppery at the same time, and/or a papri chaat with mango salsa and raita just hits the “on” button for breakfast.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 21, 2011 at 3:01 PM

        Holy Crap cur, I was just talking to someone yesterday about Indian food and I couldn’t think of the spice that I like, but I think Indian food usually contains too much of- then I read your post about India and saw your moniker- then I remembered- it’s freaking Curry! Thanks for helping a brother out.

  3. hittfamily - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:05 AM

    “In 1968, a gallon of gas cost 34 cents, the average cost of a car was $2,282 and the federal minimum wage was $1.60″

    The cost of gas has multiplied by 10. The cost of cars has multiplied by 10. The minimum wage has multiplied by 4. A great example of the “I got mine” philosophy of todays republican.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:54 AM

      What does this have to do with baseball?

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:58 AM

        It places it in its actual historical as well as current socio-economic perspective.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:59 AM

        Hey, Keith Olbermann has a lot of time on his hands nowdays. If he wants to come on a baseball blog and blow off some steam, you just ignore him and move on.

    • sportsdrenched - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM

      I thought this was HBT, not HuffingtonPost.

    • kcq101 - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:14 PM

      hittfamily –

      Politics, aside…

      The relative worth of a $1 in 1968 is equivalent to anywhere between ~$5-$6.50, in “today’s” dollars. So to compare using $5.50 as the multiple using “today’s” dollars, in 1968 vs. today a:

      -Gallon of Gas = $1.87 vs. $3.70 (Demand goes way up, production capacity can’t keep up, price goes up. And doesn’t your Prius get you farther than your 12-15mpg Firebird? Shouldn’t we compare the average cost per mile, including car costs, below? )
      -Car = $12,551 vs. $29,217 (Again, demand. Also regulation standards)
      -Minimum Wage = $ 8.80 per hour vs. $7.25 (Does the minimum wage worker really damn “the man” for not being able to buy his or her new car and drive across country? Maybe you should look at public transportation inflation)

      A lot more could be analyzed and explained to attribute to the cost-of fluctuations over the past 43 years to further reduce your comment to a zealous overstatement, void of any thought.

      Politics, back…

      Perhaps the Republican “got mine” philosophy has some responsibility in these changes. Nixon spent a ton, as well as Reagan and Bush, but counter to the “got mine” conservative principles. The growth of the public debt, relative to GDP, has hurt the U.S. $, especially in this, now, global economy.

      If your intent was to call today’s Republicans a bunch of poopie-heads, then your post was adequate. But if you’re trying to attribute their philsophy to “everything that went wrong” over the past 40 years, irrespective of a dynamic, global economy, a finite oil supply, a relative-decrease in minimum wage rates, and your personal/economic discontent, then you proved nothing. However, you do illustrate that the ~600% increase in Education Costs over the past 30 years have had its effects.

  4. preludetosmack - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:22 AM

    “The cost of gas has multiplied by 10. The cost of cars has multiplied by 10. The minimum wage has multiplied by 4. A great example of the “I got mine” philosophy of todays republican.”

    How about we look at the US government to get an example of the “yours is mine” philosophy of today’s democrap.

    1969 Federal Budget $183B
    Federal Surplus/Deficit $3B Surplus

    2010 Federal Budget $3.72TRILLION
    Federal Surplus/Deficit $1.6TRILLION

    So the government has grown by 20 times and the deficit has exploded to almost half of what the government spends.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:55 AM

      This board is not about politics.

      • kiwicricket - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:09 AM

        second

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:01 AM

        Huh? You’ve been with us long enough to know that this board is “about” whatever the discussion leads to, with certain broad limits on ad hominem and bigoted statements. Politics is certainly nothing new here and it will continue to crop up periodically, like it or not. I venture that way from time to time, will continue to do so, and don’t take my orders from you. Lighten up.

    • Ari Collins - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM

      You realize that Clinton handed Bush a budget surplus, which he turned into a deficit? But at least he gave a huge tax cut to the rich as part of that!

      • sportsdrenched - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:12 AM

        Awe yes, vaccum statements totally devoid of any reference or context. This is why I ignore most political comments.

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 2:37 PM

        Ari – I realize it, thanks in part to a ruinous and pointless war of lies and corruption that enriched his and Cheney’s pals while impoverishing most of the rest of the country and diverting immense resources away from the war we did need to fight and win. That’s not even to mention the educationally disastrous toehold he gave ignorance, stupidity and superstition in our grade school science curricula. He was a catastrophe at every level of governance. He was also doubtless the single dumbest and most suggestible weeble who ever infested the White House. We will be paying for his lies, cluelessness and blundering for generations.

        But having said that, his successor has been such a crashing disappointment that I am contemplating next November with unmitigated nausea.

  5. preludetosmack - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:23 AM

    btw, here’s the link.

    http://federal-budget.findthebest.com/

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:52 AM

      Baseball anyone?

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:09 AM

        Not this morning, thanks. Croissant?

  6. Reggie's Bush - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:40 AM

    Eww, politics.

    Beltran coming through with the clutch 2 run bomb to tie it up at 4. I cannot wait until D Wright comes back. Our best pitcher, Neise, going today at 12 going for the sweep – let’s just hope Braves keep losing.

    Let’s go Mets!

    • bleedgreen - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:01 AM

      Theres not much hope of the Mets winning the division, but I agree… lets just hope the Braves keep losing!

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:06 AM

        I read a post you wrote about Stewart Bradley yesterday. It was very well said. Much better than the usual garbage spewed over at PFT. And yes, keep losing Braves.

  7. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:40 AM

    Before this turns into a political debate…and I KNOW OG is out there right now putting together a manifesto that I will need a minimum of 2 cups of coffee before reading……..

    The Phillies once again remain “competitive” with their MLB leading 61st win, increasing their NL East lead to 4.5 games. Worley did something that NONE of the aces can say they ever did…6 straight games with 1 or 0 runs. Like I have said all along, give this freaking kid a chance. That being said, if the Dodgers came to me tomorrow and offered Kemp for Worley and a couple other high-level prospects, I would personally drive them all to PHL airport. That’s not going to happen, but short of that, there is no way I am trading him for a guy like Hunter Pence, which some Phillies fans are clamoring for right now.

    Me…I want something BIG or nothing at all when it comes to a right-handed bat. Frenchie…bleh. Cabrera? Seriously? He’s was nothing more than a switch-hitting John Mayberry Jr when he played in the NL last year. Why would I want him? I would take Pence off Fast Eddie’s hands for some A-ball talent, but I wouldn’t give up the farm for him.

    This team is built to win a World Series as it is currently put together. No excuses. Pitch. Hit. Catch. Win. That would be my speech if I were NinJr.(I love the nickname, UH)

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 7:45 AM

      Top notch post. I agree with everything you said.

    • bleedgreen - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:05 AM

      Agree. The only way I go for Pence is if they take either Brown + some mid level prospects, or we can package some bench players with 1 top prospect. Francisco, Ibanez, Cosart and eat half of what Ibanez is left owed, and maybe throw in Blanton + half of what he’s owed? We can unload guys, get someone quality back and it own’t cost much more than we’d already be paying.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:11 AM

        No way I include Brown in a deal for Pence. If he can be had for 2 top prospects and a mid tier prospect, fine. Something like Singleton, Cosart (or Colvin, May, Pettibone,Biddle) and Austin Hyatt. I think Brown will be a better player than Pence sooner rather then later. No way anybody takes on Ibanez or Blanton. Blanton will not pitch again this year and Ibanez is too costly and old.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:12 AM

        There’s no way I am doing Brown for Pence…even straight up. The upside on Brown is way too high, even though he is struggling right now. If NinJr offered Brown for Pence, I believe Fast Eddie would drive Pence to HOU personally…and I wouldn’t blame him.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:21 AM

        I agree. Only way I’m dealing Brown is if the trade has Matt Kemp coming this way.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:23 AM

        Yeah, and like I said…Kemp being traded is not going to happen so it’s not even worth debating…unless NinJr is doing his stealth routine behind the scenes. Would you do Brown and Worley for Kemp?

      • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:27 AM

        Yes, I’d even pay for the car service to the airport. I’d prefer to only give up one of Worley/Brown and package a “Baby Ace” with Jon Singleton for Kemp….Like you said though, just not going to happen, at least not this year. What would you give up for Hunter Pence?

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:34 AM

        I’d rather rent Beltran for the season and loose some lower level talent than loose either Brown or Worley in a Pence deal. That is all. And I am disgusted by the taste in my mouth now that I said that.

      • FC - Jul 21, 2011 at 1:05 PM

        Would you do Brown and Worley for Kemp?
        Not me personally, but I’m sure I could convince a couple of grad school hotties to do them both so Kemp can come to play in Philly.

    • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:23 AM

      Nope, no political manifestos this AM – when the debate gets as bogged down as it is in Washington these days, it’s for accountants, not for backbench bombthrowers like yours truly – especially with the trade deadline approaching, and with a new semiotic toy like “competitive” to play with. In fact, I just got myself a little rubber “competitive” that goes skweeeeeeeee when I bite down on it.

      • Utley's Hair - Jul 21, 2011 at 11:58 AM

        Debate? When did that start?

  8. Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:40 AM

    “Would you do Brown and Worley for Kemp?”

    Hell no. The Phills need some salary relief somewhere. You can’t trade guys who can play competitively and draw little salary when there are so many big salaries already. Ibanez is done after this season and they can dabble in the FA market then or do a trade next season. You have to keep these guys imo. You trade a duo of lower talent to rent Beltran before you go all in for Kemp like that.

    • bigxrob - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:45 AM

      Good point J5. Pay roll is the reason I think they will let Madson walk at the end of the year. They will save a lot by having younger/less expensive guys in the pen.
      Bastardo
      Stutes
      Herndon
      Defratus
      KK

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:50 AM

      J5, I probably wouldn’t either. But that’s only because I think they should be good enough, as constituted, to win the World Series.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:23 AM

        Chris, it’s easy to say when you look at their record, but when you look in the rear view mirror, and see it’s the Braves and the Giants in the mirror, not all that far back mind you, and look at the pitching they can throw at you for a series in the playoffs, you have to think to get a guy who can hit from the Right side has got to be a “need” right now. The AL isn’t the Phillies biggest hurdle to get the crown, it’s the dominant pitching in the NL. I think they NEED to address this. But not at the cost of Worley or Brown.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:48 AM

        J5, the Phillies won’t have to deal with both the Braves and Giants. Those two can beat each other up in the NLDS while the Phillies feast on those over-achieving Pirates.

        If you look at the 2010 NLCS, the two biggest reasons the Giants won were…Cody F’ing Ross and the horrible pitching in game 4. Everyone talks about how awesome the Giants pitching was, but the Phillies did outscore them in the series. And if Cody Ross doesn’t hit two bombs in game 1 the Giants don’t win game 1. And if Oswalt is pitching game 4 instead of Blanton/Contreras/Durbin, followed by the assanine decision to put Oswalt in for the 9th inning, they don’t lose game 4 either.

        Yeah, I know what if’s don’t mean much. But I don’t think we should all be so afraid of the Giants come playoff time. Cain’s game 3 was a freaking masterpiece. Otherwise, the Phillies starters pitched every bit as good as the Giants.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:54 AM

      I think that is the issue. The Mets are holding out for a top end young prospect. I’m not so sure that Beltran can be gotten without having to deal a Worley or Brown. Both of which would make the deal a non-starter in my opinion.

  9. yankeesfanlen - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:45 AM

    Another fine effort by Granderson – his 2 run homer had to be the scoring til the 9th, and what a catch at the wall off Longoria’s bat. Has anyone seen Tex? Sure, he’s a scoop-o-matic at first but where is he in the lineup?So, no getaway day for us, it’s Cap’n Crunch vs. Big Game James tonight- they must use the Trop as a cooling center during the day.

    • proudlycanadian - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:58 AM

      Tex has been MIA for a while.

    • jimbo1949 - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM

      Tex must think it’s April.

  10. uyf1950 - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:47 AM

    Good game by both teams Wednesday night. Fortunately the Yankees were just a little better. It looks like both Garcia and Colon are out of their funk and back to pre All Star break form, and that’s a good sign for the Yankees. With CC his usual dominate self, Colon, Garcia and Hughes improving the next 67 games should be a lot of fun and very interesting. Now if only AJ could turn the corner. But 4 out of 5 ain’t bad.
    …And with the series finale tonight, we could see another epic pitchers duel Sabathia versus Shields.

    • yankeesfanlen - Jul 21, 2011 at 8:58 AM

      Morning, uyf, looks like we overlapped today in a complementary way. Certainly looks like we can survive with the pitching even Boone seems to be catching on.
      But we need more runs. Can’t figure Gardner out just hope he stays in high gear and nasty on the basepaths.
      Since I’ve given up on Beep-beep and The One We Leave Alone is missing, my admonition is:
      Tex and Swish- Find your bats!!!!

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:13 AM

        At least Swish is hitter from the right side. Texieria just goes up hacking away at everything in any situation. He really needs to be moved from the 3rd spot.

      • deathmonkey41 - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:14 AM

        At least Swish is hitter from the right side. Texieria just goes up hacking away at everything in any situation. He really needs to be moved from the 3rd spot. I’m thinking Swisher should give up the switch hitting and just become a righty.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:35 AM

        yankeesfanlen – Good morning, my friend. I agree with everything you said. But I still would like to the Yankees to pursue Jimenez if the cost isn’t out of line. If for nothing else then the 2012 season. Maybe then they can jettison Burnett to some NL team and eat part of his salary for his last 2 years. That’s just my hope and opinion.

  11. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:15 AM

    One thing the fans of the Phillies/Red Sox/Yankees are not talking about is the fact that, barring a miracle, all three of those teams will be playing in the 2011 playoffs. The Red Sox are not only 1 up in the loss column in the Al East, they are 9 games up in the loss column for the Wild Card. The Phillies are not only 5 up in the loss column over the Braves, they are 9 up in the loss column for the Wild Card. Even the Braves are 5 games up in the Wild Card right now, so you can almost include them in the 2011 Playoffs already themselves.

    So while it is fun to come on and talk about the Phillies/Yankees/Red Sox, none of this really matters(except injuries) until October baseball is being played. And October baseball is all but a foregone conclusion for those three teams.

    • Ari Collins - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:13 AM

      Yeah, that’s why any trade by those teams is more about October than anything else. And why fans are salivating at the idea of a Pence or a Garza or (especially) a Jimenez: a guy who you can get for this October and for next year too.

      Although for my Sox, Reddick is making a Pence deal look less and less appealing.

  12. uberfatty - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:17 AM

    Vance Worley:

    80% LOB
    .254 BABIP (with low FB%)
    3.1% HR/FB
    1.85 K/BB

    discuss.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:21 AM

      I see what you are getting at. By throwing out various sabermetric statistics you are implying that Vanimal is over rated and is likely due some type of statistical regression in his ERA.

      • uberfatty - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:39 AM

        I’d argue that K/BB and HR/FB are pretty basic, but yeah we have a winner.

        I suppose this should have gone above where the discussion was how Worley is some sort of uber-prospect because of 62 innings of average baseball without a strong MiLB performance either.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:55 AM

        Yeah, I guess 62 innings with a 2.02 ERA, and ERA+ of 190, is really nothing more than “average baseball” That’s where you SABR guys lose people like me. When you spout a couple stats and think a guy with those #’s is pitching “average”. Ridiculous.

      • Ari Collins - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM

        Fiorentino: the issue is that those numbers are the result, but the way Worley has gotten there, as shown by the things he’s done and not the things his fielders have done, has been pretty messy. Stats like xFIP have been proven to be a better predictor of future ERA than the numbers you gave. And his xFIP is a still-good 3.99. His ERA from this point on is likely to be much closer to 3.99 than 2.02. Or possibly worse, if you believe that the major league hitters have room to adjust to his stuff.

        Which doesn’t take away from what Worley’s done so far. Celebrate it! He’s been a great surprise for Phillies fans, no doubt. But you shouldn’t expect him to keep going like that, either. He’s likely to regress greatly.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:19 AM

        “Expect” him to regress from his rookie season? Nolan Ryan and Greg Maddux would not agree with your assessment Ari. See the guy’s 23 and improving. Wait, did you get his little league numbers in there as well to judge his ceiling?
        I don’t know if he’s going to be great or a dud, but I do know it’s much too soon to predict how good or bad he’ll be in a season or two.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:20 AM

        Ari, if you want to judge “future results” then by all means, spout as many stats as you want. But for someone to say that Worley has been playing “average baseball for 62 innings” is about a stupid as one can sound. If you want to say “Worley has been pitching way above his head and he is due to come down”, then by all means, shout it from the rafters. And if/when he comes down, you can say “I told you so!!!” But right NOW, TODAY, his line is 6-1 2.02 ERA, 190 ERA+, & a not-too-shabby 7 SO/9. Sure, he walks more guys than I would like. But there is NO QUESTION that he has thrown 6 starts together that are far far far better than “average baseball”

      • uberfatty - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:36 AM

        Ok Chris, I admit I misstated the 62 innings/avergage thing above and it could be taken to mean something different than I intended. Worleys results so far have been fantastic – great ERA, fantastic winning %. I meant to say his peripheral numbers were average and thus moving forward we can expect him to be an average pitcher (xFIP is one of the best predictors of future ERA). I think Ari basically said everything that I was thinking in that regard.

        One thing to add about trade value though (which is where this started above): GM’s don’t trade based on to-date performance, they trade based on projected future performance. And Worley’s current peripherals, in a tiny sample size, suggest a league average pitcher not a future ace. That being said, a league average pitcher with many years of control is pretty kickass.

        Quick Poll: What does everyone think Worley’s year-end ERA will end up at? I’ll lock in at 2.99.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM

        Well, I am glad you didn’t stick to your guns on the whole “average baseball” thing, because if that’s average, then I can’t imagine what great would be. I agree that he may not be able to keep up this pace, and I don’t really care what his ERA is at the end of the season. What it is right now is 2.01 as a starter, his ERA+ is 190 and his BABIP as a starter is .265, which isn’t all that bad. I also think that 7K’s per 9 isn’t all that bad either. If I had to guess, I would say his ERA will end up closer to 3, only because as a young pitcher, he is bound to have one or two really bad starts between now and the end of the season. But the nice part about baseball is that all the stats in the world don’t define how a guy is truly pitching right now. And right now, Worley is pitching as well as anybody in baseball over his last 6 starts.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:21 AM

      To borrow a quote from one of the greatest films ever made…”In English Please”

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:36 AM

        Which in Japanese would be 英語お願いします。

      • kiwicricket - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:49 AM

        You are NOT getting an edit function after writing that Gator.

      • spudchukar - Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM

        That is Japanese for Phillies aren’t competive.

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 2:49 PM

        No, this is: 雌の子馬は競争ではない

    • Jonny 5 - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:45 AM

      Discuss? He’s better than Kendrick, and he’s better than Blanton, He’s cheaper than both so I say he’s a keeper. His numbers do tell us he’s due to regress in his dominance once scouting gets better on him. But nonetheless the man is a solid 3-4 career starter imo. His latest streak has shown his numbers improve and many people fail to recognize just how young this kid is, he’s only 23. He’s still getting better and still learning. You can’t take his numbers now and predict what this kid’s ceiling is, not yet. Looking at his rookie season he appears to be as good as any HOF’er was in their rookie season, if not better than most. I say, he’s good enough to keep for now.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:53 AM

        J5, just like they are doing with the Bastid, the Sabremetric geniuses are going to downplay Worley like he is doing it with no talent and nothing but smoke and mirrors. Whatever…I choose to just leave them to their silliness a Worley racks up the 7 IP, 1 ER performances.

      • FC - Jul 21, 2011 at 1:18 PM

        I wonder what Sabremetrics has to say about Jose Bautista…..

  13. Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:34 AM

    Okay, I’ve had a little liquid pacemaker and can now discourse incoherently on that statistical oxymoron known as the Feesh.

    All that you need to know about last night’s massacre in the mud is that outfield perpetual prospect Bryan Petersen found his true calling and pitched a 1-2-3-3 scoreless ninth inning in support of the boolpen boys who were black and blue and bruised and bloody (viz. Tom Paxton, “the night nurse is gone / and the sexy one’s here / and she tells us such beautiful lies / her uniform’s tight on her marvelous rear / and you’ve only to open your eyes”).

    Which leads me to an interesting question. Well, to me anyway. I’ve got a very sensitive olfactory center in my brain, probably as a result of my highly refined culinary sensibilities, definitely not genetic (as a cook my mother, may she rest in mink, could burn water), so I’ve never ventured into a locker room after a game in hot humid weather, but – when peetchers get beaten up as badly as Nolasco and much of the Feesh boolpen, do they develop parasympathetic welts and bruises, you know, like baseball stigmata all over themselves?

  14. rmalmstrom - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM

    Don’t sell him short! Freddy Garcia is a tremendous slouch.

  15. APBA Guy - Jul 21, 2011 at 11:46 AM

    The mob is harsh with OG this morning, as the road has been with the A’s this year (17-33). But yesterday the A’s took advantage of some weak middle relief, including David “Big Foot” Purcey walking the bases loaded followed by Joaquin Benoit throwing mushballs down the middle so the A’s could plate every one of those walks. Jim Leyland, already of indeterminate age, aged visibly as that sequence unfolded, despite his Venezuelan middle of the lineup going an astonishing 8-17 in the game.

    The A’s now travel to New York with Cahill, Harden, and Gio scheduled in a series which begins Friday. Just based on the A’s record you’d expect the A’s to drop two of three. This really is a showcase series for the A’s in that they will be showcasing their veterans to see if anyone will take their salary off the A’s hands.

    • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 2:47 PM

      That’s not the “mob,” for the most part. Aside from one or two otherwise silent or inarticulate knuckledraggers, that’s probably the work of one particular juvenile case of mildly sociopathic arrested development we all know and love. I’ve noticed that he or (gagg) someone equally stupid has figured out how to add a dozen thumbs down at one shot. It must be simple to do because he surely hasn’t got the mental acuity to master anything complicated.

      Anyway, I generally ignore him. It needs to be a really, really slow news day to take time off from whatever else I have to do to remind him about what a dummy he is.

      But while we’re on this subject, the whole thumbs up or down thing is assinine anyway. We would be better served if it were scrapped altogether and replaced with an – everyone ready? –

      Edit function!
      Edit function!
      EDIT FUNCTION!

      • APBA Guy - Jul 21, 2011 at 3:18 PM

        How do you highlight and bold?

        I was surprised we both abstained from any serious political stuff this morning. In my case I blame the weather. It’s just too nice. While the East and Midwest are wilting it’s about 78 here, cloudless sky, slight cool breeze from the Northwest. Maybe next time.

      • Old Gator - Jul 21, 2011 at 4:31 PM

        Damn, lost your email address. Email me and I’ll explain the bold and highlight stuff.

  16. foreverchipper10 - Jul 21, 2011 at 1:09 PM

    Danny Valencia got some serious pie love last night.

  17. brewcrewchamps - Jul 21, 2011 at 3:41 PM

    If Nyjer Morgan is gonna step up for the crew, right about now is a good time to start

  18. macjacmccoy - Jul 21, 2011 at 9:01 PM

    They pitched Worley 8 bc he has been struggling past 6. They figured they had a big enough lead they could let him figure it out and push through the wall hes been hitting in previous starts. It seemed to work out too. He allowed the bases to get loaded in the 7th with no outs and worked through it and came back and pitched a better 8th.

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