“In terms of Ramirez, the guy is a parolee, has a history of being on the street, and it could be that for whatever reason, cracking him was the key to getting these two. I’m no fan of LAPD (they tend to shoot people when they don’t have to), but if these ARE the guys, then I’m not going to fault them in how they were caught.”

You’re vague, which give you some after-the-fact wiggle room. But you seem to be arguing that arresting an innocent guy (you know, innocent, like, he didn’t beat up Brian Stow) was “the key to getting these two,” because the innocent guy might have “crack[ed].” I assume you mean that the innocent guy, in order to convince the cops that he was in fact innocent, gave up the next two guys arrested. Which is all fine – unless you’re the innocent guy. In which case you got arrested and dragged through the press for something you didn’t do, which is a shame. Again, I bet you hope you’re never that guy.

Utley’s Hair took the conspiracy theory one step further when he said, “Did you ever think that maybe the LAPD used his arrest to try to get the real culprits to slip up?” So his theory is that the cops arrested an innocent guy on purpose to try and convince the real bad guys to let their guard down, and it might have worked. Hey, great if you’re the LAPD! Not so great if you’re the innocent guy.

And to answer your question – yes, it does “really matter[]” when innocent people get arrested. What doesn’t matter is if there’s some “greater good” behind the arrest of an innocent person.

My points about Ramirez was to provide positive vibes that the latest arrests are the proper ones.

And seeing as how neither you nor me are members of the LAPD investigation team, we can only speculate as to why this case has gone the way it has.

But, hey, just keep arguing for no reason and continue telling the rest of the world that our heads are buried in the sand. Because you most definitely are the clearest thinking individual I’ve read on this here blog.

I hope that makes you feel better.

If there was more conclusive evidence, I’d want the charges to be two counts of attempted murder.

This is not “The CLoser,” LAPD, what ever you think about them try to follow the law when investigating cases.

Your speculation on Ramirez is completely unfounded. I am certain he had no hand assisting LAPD in this, I think his lawyer has made that pretty clear.

Get better Stow.

In terms of Ramirez, the guy is a parolee, has a history of being on the street, and it could be that for whatever reason, cracking him was the key to getting these two. I’m no fan of LAPD (they tend to shoot people when they don’t have to), but if these ARE the guys, then I’m not going to fault them in how they were caught.

Good vibes, people. This case needs to be solved.