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Nonsensical stuff about Jeremy Guthrie

Jul 22, 2011, 12:03 PM EDT

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Jeff Zrbiec of the Baltimore Sun has written recently that he didn’t think that the Oriole would trade starter Jeremy Guthrie, because they need to have an innings eater around to protect their young arms. Fair enough.

Today, however, he rethinks it a bit. He doesn’t change his general view of things, but does note the limited circumstances under which the O’s might trade Guthrie:

… the Orioles aren’t in a position to give away a pitcher who is on track to log more than 200 innings for a third straight year. They likely are going to have to get at least one Major League-ready starter as part of the package back for him.

Question: if you already had an expendable “Major League-reader starter” available, why in the hell would you be trading for Jeremy Guthrie?

  1. Panda Claus - Jul 22, 2011 at 12:56 PM

    It’s not that silly of a question. You trade a known commodity in Guthrie for a major-league “ready” starter, and maybe get another prospect thrown in to sweeten the deal.

    Since the O’s aren’t going anywhere but down this year, you trade current value for future value. And maybe when the future guy(s) is/are ready, the Orioles will be able to use them.

    • randomdigits - Jul 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM

      Panda is right Craig there is a large difference between “Major league-ready? starter” and someone that has put up a sub 4.00 ERA three of the past four years in the AL East.

      • ptho16 - Jul 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM

        except that Guthrie’s ERA is 4.35 this year, was 3.83 last year and was 5.04 in 2009..

      • randomdigits - Jul 22, 2011 at 3:05 PM

        Right, three of the past four. This year is not the past and 5.04 would be the one year it wasn’t under 4.00.

        Not sure why you bothered to try and correct me when nothing I said was incorrect.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 22, 2011 at 5:20 PM

        It’s not incorrect, but it is misleading. You ignored his entirely-relevant current performance and set your bar to de-emphasize his weaker season and make his stronger seasons look even better. Since he became a starter in 2007, he’s posted a 4.07 ERA. He’s good for 200 league-averagish innings a year. That’s valuable, but not worth the premium being discussed.

  2. tashkalucy - Jul 22, 2011 at 1:02 PM

    Wonder what Guthrie’s record would be if he were pitching for he Red Sox, Yankees, Rangers, etc.

    He’s been on an awful team for years.

  3. SusanEAC - Jul 23, 2011 at 6:05 PM

    Everyone wants arms; lots of teams will want Guthrie, maybe as their 3-5 starter, not bad but Baltimore can get a pretty penny back, if they are smart!

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