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And That Happened: Sunday’s scores and highlights

Jul 25, 2011, 5:30 AM EDT

Jason Bourgeois

Cubs 5, Astros 4: The Astros should be bottled like some 19th Century patent medicine, guaranteed to cure all!  They can call it “Dr. Mills’ Blood, Liver and Stomach Invigorational Tincture” or something. Jeff Baker took a swig of it, obviously, and it gave him the gumption and pep to hit the game-winning single in the 10th. Or maybe Hunter Pence forgot to take it, causing bad humours and vexation to build up in his ocular region, this leading to him missing Marlon Byrd‘s fly ball, which put Byrd on third base for the waiting Baker.  The Cubs take all three from Houston.

Reds 4, Braves 3: Drew Stubbs: walkoff homer. And for the second time in a week, when the game was on the line, the Braves lost it because Fredi Gonzalez has a pathological aversion to using his best reliever in a tie game on the road.  But hey, at least the feelings of whoever wrote The Book weren’t hurt.

Giants 2, Brewers 1: Madison Bumgarner outduels Yovani Gallardo. Pfun Pfact: I misspell Bumgarner’s and Gallardo’s names 100% of the time I write them, having to go back and change them. Every single time. And half the time I change them to another misspelling.

Yankees 7, Athletics 5: Bartolo Colon had a nice outing, suggesting that the “oh noes, he’s turning back into a pumpkin” fears are either overstated or premature.  Oakland had a chance to tie or win this one in the ninth, loading the bases against Mariano Rivera. The one-out line drive off the bat of David DeJesus found Mark Teixeira‘s glove, however, and he turned the double play.

White Sox 4, Indians 2Ezequiel Carrera woofed a simple Adam Dunn fly ball with two runners on in the sixth, scoring the Sox’ second and third runs of the game. But hey, when you’re a household name like Ezequiel Carrera, you can shake those sorts of things off, secure in the knowledge that you won’t get benched tomorrow or anything.

Diamondbacks 7, Rockies 0:  Justin Upton went 4 for 4 with two doubles, a triple and three RBIs and Micah Owings — really? — threw five shutout innings. He also had an RBI single, natch, because that’s what Micah Owings does.

Pirates 4, Cardinals 3: The Pirates needed this one. And they got the winning run small-ball style, which is about the only style they have at the moment: infield hit, steal of second, advance to third on a throwing error and in to score on a sac fly.

Rays 5, Royals 0: Alex Cobb throws seven shutout innings and three relievers carry the final two.

Red Sox 12, Mariners 8: The Red Sox were none too impressed with Michael Pineda (4.1 IP, 8 H, 7 ER).  Tim Wakefield got beat up too, but he’s been taking punches like that for years, so it was no sweat to him. Fifteen (15) (XV) straight losses for the M’s.

Phillies 5, Padres 3: Five in a row for Philly and seven of nine since the break. They’re just making it look easy.

Marlins 5, Mets 4: A great day for David Wright — homer, double and a single — but Bobby Parnell went kablooey in the eighth, giving up a Logan Morrison homer and a John Buck RBI double.

Angels 9, Orioles 3: The Angels put up a five-spot in the eighth, turning a close one into a not-so-close one, thanks in part to Mike Trout and Torii Hunter homers. Trout’s first one, by the way.

Dodgers 3, Nationals 1: Chad Billingsley struck out 10 over seven innings. The Nats have dropped six of nine since the break.

Blue Jays 4, Rangers 0: Brett Cecil threw a four-hit shutout against the Rangers in Arlington? All singles? Only one runner reaches second base? That’s pretty cool.

 

  1. uyf1950 - Jul 25, 2011 at 6:10 AM

    The Yankees won a game that wasn’t as close as the score would indicate. At least it wasn’t as close until the 8th and 9th innings. The Yankees now get the Mariners. The Mariners in hopes of ending their historic losing streak and the Yankees intent on adding to it. We shall see which team prevails.

    • phukyouk - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM

      much as it hurts me to say this the Yanks have been playing Slumpbuster for 2 seasons now so i’m afraid that the M’s are going to take 2 of 3 with the Yanks only win coming in tomorrows game. I hope I’m wrong…..

      • hittfamily - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:01 AM

        Then the Rays will put them right back in the slump

    • APBA Guy - Jul 25, 2011 at 12:43 PM

      uyf- You are exactly right that the game wasn’t as close as the score would indicate. It never is when the A’s are the opposition. Once the other team gets to 5 runs the game is essentially over.

      Two observations about the game: As I said before, this road swing is a showcase series for the A’s, in that they are showcasing their veteran players. One of whom, Willingham, showed his good points (homerun to left center in NYS, a blast by anybody’s standards) and his bad (trying to track back on a fly ball while positioning himself too shallow in left). He screamed “DH” to clubs scouting him.

      Second, the A’s are so bad that their fundamentals are failing them. In the 5th, Sogard walked to lead off the inning. He failed to advance on two very deep fly balls, so when Matsui doubled, Sogard was thrown out at the plate. That would have tied the score, and who knows after that.

      With Seattle the Yanks will face an offense even worse than the A’s and they draw Vargas, Fister, and the King. So I’m going to say 2 of 3 for the Yankees again because there’s a high probability one of the Seattle pitchers will throw a very good game.

      • adowding3 - Jul 25, 2011 at 12:53 PM

        I dont know that you can blame Sogard for not tagging. As you said he was on first, and the balls were hit deep. If they get over the head of Grandy or Jones (more likely), he could have scored. On the flip side, you wanted him to try to take second when a good throw could have had him. Its tough to say if he should have tagged or not. I just dont think you can fault him for trying to score from first.

        Look at the play with Laird and Jeter a couple inninngs earlier. Laird (on second) should have been tagging because a) the throw to third is an extra 90′ away and b) if he’s tagging and the ball gets by Crisp in CF, he still scores easily. Jeter on first, would have scored had the ball dropped because he was off on contact.

  2. uyf1950 - Jul 25, 2011 at 6:17 AM

    I would be remiss if I didn’t add an obligatory comment about the Mariners and the fact that they might become sellers anytime soon with the trade deadline looming. Dare we think that there might be some consideration by the Mariners ownership/management to trade a premier pitcher in an effort to field a respectable/competitive team in the foreseeable future. Just a general observation and opinion.

    • hittfamily - Jul 25, 2011 at 6:52 AM

      I would hope they entertain offers. They are years away from being competitive, and about 4 terrible contracts hold up their immediate growth.

    • easports82 - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:58 AM

      Fine, I’ll take the bait.. again.

      It’s not obligatory, it’s stupid.
      1) Felix isn’t a trade-chip for the next two years, he’s a building block. You don’t trade the best player on your team when he’s young and affordable and one of the only draws to get people to the park.
      2) No contender is going to give up the requisite MLB and AAA talent to get him right now; the price tag is going to be way too high for any sane GM to try.
      3) No rebuilding team is going to give up their prospects to land Felix and drop them into a similar place as to where the Mariners are now.
      4) Unless the franchise picks up 3 MLB producing players, with at least one potential super star, in the deal, there is no way they could sell the trade to the fanbase and continue to expect anyone to support the team any further.

      Just specific points to debunk your general observations.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:03 AM

        ea, you are forgetting the most important thing…Felix Hernandez must pitch for the Yankees ASAFP. It is Manifest Destiny and nothing is going to stop it. Don’t fight it…accept it!!!!!

      • easports82 - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:06 AM

        As Old Gator would put it, Resistance is Futile.

      • Old Gator - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:39 AM

        Yes he would, but I have other ideas too. Try this one: remember how Bud Light pulled off that double switch that sent Espanglish-challenged Feesh owner John Henry to Boston (with historical results), and sent the Feesh Scrooge McLoria.

        Howsabout MLB takes over the Dodgers and arranges a loan for Frank McCourt to buy the Mariners?

        Well?

        No applause?

        Huh.

      • easports82 - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:44 AM

        Nah, we’ll stick with the deep pockets of Nintendo over Frank’s mountain of debt, thank you.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 25, 2011 at 12:21 PM

        To easports82 – Perhaps my comment was stupid as you suggest. But I’m amazed at your great wealth of knowledge. Not only based on your points above do you know what Felix means to the team is as you so cleverly point out but based on your 2nd and 3rd points you know what every other ML Team is willing to do or not do to secure his services. And of course lastly as a GM in training which apparently you must because you know exactly what the Mariners will want should they decide to trade him which you acknowledged in your 1st point they wouldn’t do.
        BTW, as for your comment about him being one of the only draws to get people into the park. Here the 3 most current years average stadium crowd percentage for Mariners home games:
        2011 – 48.8%
        2010 – 53.9%
        2009 – 56.8%
        I’m glad to see King Felix has been so instrumental in drawing fans to the ballpark. Just so you know the 2 years prior to Felix joining the the Mariners on a full time basis the average stadium crowd percentage for Mariners home games:
        2005 – 70.4%
        2004 – 76 %
        …and their records were not appreciably any better then they are today. Now I’m sure there other reasons that could have affected the attendance drop off. But on the surface it doesn’t seem to me Felix has been a significant draw/reason for fans to attend Mariners home games. That’s just my opinion.

      • easports82 - Jul 25, 2011 at 12:34 PM

        And here’s why you’re wrong again:
        Attendance for 04 and 05 are higher because the M’s were winning over 90 a year from 2000-03. Attendance has dwindled the last 3 years because of a disasterous 2008, with a brief respite in 2009, followed by the calamity of last year which is starting to be repeated this year. One player in baseball will not keep the fans coming, but you can’t sell a team that has no stars either. I’ll concede that he can’t fill the entire park, though the King’s Court section for his starts are sold out and has been expanded since it started.

        As far as what other teams are going to give up:
        Look at the bounty the Orioles got for Bedard in 2008 from the M’s. Now multiply that by 10 and that’s what a team would most likely need to get the M’s to give up Felix right now. Do I know what any of these GM’s are thinking? Of course not. But use some reason when you throw out you’re stupid statement. What motivation do the M’s have to trade Felix? None. He’s under contract until 2014, he’s an Ace, people want to watch him pitch. So do a little research and try to put together a non-video game-esque package which makes any sense in the short and long term for the M’s to consider and a the trading team would be OK with also.

      • marinersnate - Jul 25, 2011 at 1:14 PM

        “Fine, I’ll take the bait.. again.”

        Well EA it is your turn. I have taken the bait the last couple of days to no avail.

        When it comes to the subject of trading Felix (to the Yankees of course), UYF is like the Bronx answer to the Terminator.

        It can’t be bargained with.

        It can’t be reasoned with.

        It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear.

        And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

      • uyf1950 - Jul 25, 2011 at 6:16 PM

        easports82 – In your most recent reply you have proven my point about the attendance of the Mariners without realizing it. That is fans will come out when the team wins and is competitive consistently. As you have clearly indicated in your attempt to prove my conclusion wrong. Clearly the Mariners are not competitive and haven’t been for a few years with Felix on the roster. Clearly King Felix for whatever qualities fans bestow upon him (the best pitcher, etc…) has note provided an uptick in attendance or the competitiveness of the Mariners. You ask what motivation do the Mariners have for trading him? How about fielding a competitive with an eye on winning they clearly are not doing it with him.

      • easports82 - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:20 PM

        Though I’m sure everyone else who’ve been reading this thread are sick of it, I’m gonna try a new tact. I’ll play along. Felix is on the market.

        Make an offer.

    • deathmonkey41 - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:42 AM

      This Mariners misery was a curse brought upon the organization from screwing the Yankees in the 12th hour last year in the Cliff Lee trade! Don’t cross the Pin Stripes!

      • Utley's Hair - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM

        If you cross the pinstripes, doesn’t that make it gingham…or window pane…or some other fashiony term?

      • easports82 - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:22 AM

        This Mariners misery began in 2004, with brief pauses in 2007, 2009, and for the first half of 2011. Once again, proof that the universe does not revolve around the Yankees.

  3. hittfamily - Jul 25, 2011 at 6:46 AM

    The Phils look untouchable in the National League. If San Fran wants to compete with them for a 2nd title, they need to pick up some offense. Their starting pitching isn’t as good, and are worlds behind offensively. They need Beltran or Pence more than anyone in the League, and probably have the pieces to force the deal. Torture may have won them the title last year, but run production is going to have to win it this year.

    • Utley's Hair - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:03 AM

      I’ll temper that assertion a bit—the Phightins are only untouchable if the offense is at least half-throttle. As evidenced last Wednesday, not even Doc is infallible—just get the Eagles’ recipe for pickle juice and he should be okay. But the hurlers are also susceptible to bad outings once in a while. We’ll see what happens with the Wizard of Oswalt.

  4. proudlycanadian - Jul 25, 2011 at 7:04 AM

    A minor (I have made a lot more typo’s than you) quibble Craig. The Jays won by 3 to 0 not 4 to 0. Cecil has finally rounded into form. At the start of the season, he had lost about 5 MPH off his fastball and had to be sent to the minors. Yesterday’s performance was the best of his career.

    • missthemexpos - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:21 AM

      Nice to see Cecil in top form, nicer yet was not seeing the bullpen used, one spoiled strong outing by a starter down in Texas was more than enough for me.

      • cur68 - Jul 25, 2011 at 12:28 PM

        Apparently Cecil spent some time tinkering with his delivery. Whatever he did, it gave him about 3 more mph and a slightly more downward vector than previous. He was pouring it in to Nelson Cruz in the bottom of the 9th and only good luck for Cruz saw him reach . . . a thought has just occurred. I know where The Mariner’s Mojo has gone! NELSON CRUZ has it! That dude was an animal in the series against the Jays. Without him the Jays take 2 of 3 off the Rangers and that loss would have been very competitive, no doubt about it. By himself he would be all the Mariners need to start winning again.

  5. Old Gator - Jul 25, 2011 at 7:47 AM

    Another no-decision for Anibal Sanchez, for whom this team simply refuses to pull through. He must be praying to be traded someplace by now – and the news that he can get arepas in Toronto has to be resonating powerfully with him these days. This win goes to the boolpen again – Randy Choate finally picks up one of his own. The Feesh swatted the Mutts off’n the strange attractor and enjoyed the virtual “thud” but still occupy the basement. Without K-Rod to kick around any more, what will probably be an increasingly familiar scenario for the Mutts unfolded in the late innings. But that’s besides the point: the Feesh have been consistent only in their inconsistency this season and, as their atrocious (2-4) homestand concludes, it is only the return to formlessness of the Gnats or a possible near-dismantling of the Mutts by the trade deadline that offers them much hope of escaping the pit.

  6. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM

    The Phillies began to assert their authori-tay this weekend and are now 6 games ahead of the Braves, who still have the 4th best record in baseball. So it’s not a knock on the Braves. The Phillies, as I have said all along, are just set up to be historically good.

    • Jonny 5 - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM

      Well, it sure looks like they’ll break the 100 win mark this season. The Phills right now have the best record they ever had at 100 games too.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:07 AM

        J5, I don’t like to play the whole “I told you so game”…OK, who am I kidding…I said it on opening day. This division is over. With this pitching staff, extended losing streaks do not exist. Yeah, I got a tinge greedy and said they wouldn’t lose 3 in a row. They have lost 4 in a row twice and that is it.

        Amazing fact…
        THIS TEAM HASN’T LOST TWO GAMES IN A ROW SINCE JUNE 4TH!!!!!!!

      • phukyouk - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:17 AM

        didnt they lose 5 ( or 6) in a row at least once?

      • mercyflush - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:18 AM

        second best. the 1976 team was 68-32.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:25 AM

        phuk…nope, only two 4-game losing streaks for Phillies this year and that is it. They haven’t lost two in a row in 42 games, a streak that even the 98 Yankees didn’t accomplish. And Mercy, looks like you are right, but they did flash a stat that this was tied for best record after 100 games yesterday on PHL17, so it was their misinformation.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:42 AM

        “And Mercy, looks like you are right, but they did flash a stat that this was tied for best record after 100 games yesterday on PHL17, so it was their misinformation.”

        I need to stop listening to the talking heads. You figure, they’d at least check before telling everyone.

      • FC - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:43 AM

        “second best. the 1976 team was 68-32″

        And that team finished 101-61 and was swept in the NLCS by the Big Red Machine… I hope they use the trade deadline to plug any offensive gaps. They hit a ton this weekend, but then again they hit a ton in April. If they get cold in October like last year… To win it all they may want to consider adding an offensive piece.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:06 AM

        That team had a Carlton too, but it didn’t have Doc and Lee like this one has ;)

    • cur68 - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:29 AM

      Just keep your shirt on Chris… and pants, too, please. In fact just remain decently covered at all times.

  7. craggt - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:01 AM

    Craig, you forgot the tigers twins game. Dont worry i’ll do it for you.
    Tigers 5 twins 2
    Tigers jump on liriano early, porcello earns his 10th win giving up 2er over 6 unkind innings. 2010 1st round supplemental draftee chance ruffin was called up after the game.

    • yankeesfanlen - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:14 AM

      Figures he forget the Tigers game, they’re only in first in the Central. No respect! Thanks craggt.

    • craggt - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:39 AM

      Whoops, did this on my phone and I have no idea where the ‘unkind’ came from. Probably from several attempts to make swype type ‘innings’

    • The Common Man - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:45 AM

      How dare you forget the Twins’ loss, Craig. I wanted to be reminded of the crushing frustration and anguish I felt all yesterday afternoon.

    • trevorb06 - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:24 AM

      No love Craig C.

  8. yankeesfanlen - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:12 AM

    I’m beginning to marvel about the surprise expressed each time Colon or Garcia (or AJ or Phil) participates in a winning game. Naturally, the better the game they pitch the bigger the jaw-dropping.From the beginning of the season I’ve thought that “They’re no Phillies” but they might get us through, now with the 100th game of the season tonight there’s not a great reason to think that we may have to prevail with this group, the rade deadline offering no hope of a back-season ringer. So, let’s get B-A-T-S, BATS BATS BATS and pound our way through the stretch.

    I’ll be at Myrtle Beach on special assignment for two weeks, starting tomorrow- look for run-down accomodations in better neighborhoods with a Yankee flag outside room #19.

    Still need an alias for my netbook, don’t remember my password for the non-edit functioning WordPress.

  9. macjacmccoy - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:15 AM

    Just think 2 series ago the Braves were only 2 1/2 games back in the NL East and now the Phillies are 6 games up with 2 games in hand with those games in the loss column for the Braves. And the Phillies are just now starting to get healthy. They just got Lidge, Victorino, and Madson back and will be getting Oswalt and Polanco back in the next week or so.

    I think they would be nuts to give up anything of value for a bat or bullpen help. The bullpen will be getting is already getting better with Lidge and Madson and once Oswalt gets back Kendrick can go back to pen where he actually plays decent at, and Contreras should be returning in a few weeks. The bats starting to come to life too. Dom Brown is starting to get his feet under him. Utley and Rollins finally look like them selves after over coming their injury problems the last few years, Chooch is coming up clutch again and is driving the ball better, Victorino and Polanco are returning, and Ryan Howard is due for his annual 2nd half tear. The only person not pulling their weight is Ibanez, but even if they do get a bat they arent going to bench Raul they mostly likely would sit Brown. Which I dont want to see happen.

    Their farm system is just now starting to build back up I dont want to see it depleted for a 1/2 season or a year rental. They only way I see a trade making sense if its for a young guy who will replace Ibanez next year and be here for years afterwards A guy like Pence, or Upton, or Rasmus. That’s the only way I see it making sense. Otherwise I think the Phillies are just fine where they are. Heck the Phillies lead the league in games where they scored 10+ runs and they have the best record in baseball. They gotta be doing something right.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:34 AM

      I mostly agree with you, but if they can get Pence for Brown, I would make that deal in a second. Pence would be under control another 2 years and, while I don’t want to give up the Domo-nator, Pence is more seasoned and will help the team more for the playoff run this year and next.

      • bleedgreen - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:42 AM

        Pence at least has 2 years to prove he’s worth a larger contract. Dom needs to stop thinking he can leg everything out. That double he tried to stretch into a triple yesterday? I dunno… maybe its Samuel, but thats like, the 2nd or 3rd time he’s gotten tagged out trying to turn it into three.

      • macjacmccoy - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:49 AM

        yea but then where are you next season when you need a left fielder. I dont want to bite off the nose to spite the face. The Phillies are good enough to win it all now. I dont wanna mortgage next season just to add a piece we might not even need this year. And it would still leave the Phillies with their biggest hole Ibanez in LF.

        Next year they will be even older, we will need a young guy like brown on the team. Yea Pence would replace that but his contract would be for a lot more then Brown’s would . The money we would have to pay him would take away from what we would have to find a left fielder. Plus we would have to give up more then Brown to get Pence. I dont like the idea of giving away or only big league ready prospect in Brown. The Phillies have done that to much lately and it hasnt 1 them a WS yet. When they won it was the Blanton year before all the big time trades.

        Id much rather play this year out with the best team in baseball and keep them on that level for years then get greedy and add another piece just to add em and risk messing up the future.

        I would however love for the Phillies to some how get Bourn back this season or next and have an OF of Brown Bourn and Victorino. Thats like my dream outfield.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:55 AM

        There will be a 2011 free agency period that begins after the World Series. Just like how they signed Ibanez 3 years ago, they can always get someone out there.

        The question is…what would you rather see in the 2011 Playoffs…

        Ibanez/Victorino/Brown

        or

        Ibanez/Victorino/Pence

        I’ll take the second one because it give the Phillies a much better chance to win THIS YEAR. And as a fan, that’s all I really care about.

        Plus, I’m not sure it will take much more than Brown to get Pence…maybe a couple minor A prospects.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:34 AM

        Just to chime in, Pence for Brown is probably a good move for Philly, and Houston. It looks that way anyway. I don’t see Brown exceeding what Pence will do any time soon, at this point anything to save money and get younger talent benefits Houston at this point as they’ve hit the bottom with a thud. Philly may not even need to give up Brown and if they do it’s probably just to beat what the Giants offer.

  10. macjacmccoy - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:21 AM

    “Diamondbacks 7, Rockies 0: Justin Upton went 4 for 4 with two doubles, a triple and three RBIs and Micah Owings — really? — threw five shutout innings. He also had an RBI single, natch, because that’s what Micah Owings does.”

    God that is my biggest baseball pet pieve when someone puts on s on the end of RBI. You wouldnt say a triple and 3 runs batted ins so why add the s.

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:39 AM

      RBI is a word that stands for Run Batted In. RBIs could be the plural. But for those people who like to think they are smarter than everyone else, like some of the Sportscenter guys, they say RBI for the singular or plural. Doesn’t make a difference either way. Saying RBI or RBIs is not wrong. Just like saying RPM or RPMs isn’t wrong either way. It’s when someone says that THEIR way is right and the other way is wrong…THAT’S wrong.

      • macjacmccoy - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:52 AM

        well Im wrong if RBI stands for Run Batted In and not Runs Batted In. RBIs just always looked wierd to me bc it automatically makes me think of runs batted ins.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:05 AM

        RsBI.

    • RickyB - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:24 AM

      Associated Press style dictates the use of RBIs for plural. The acronym itself is synonymous with the statistics, therefore pluralizing it with an ‘s’ is perfectly acceptable.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:01 AM

        Yooooo Ricky B, Thank you. Now if we can all agree that debating the proper plural term for an acronym that was created because we are all to lazy to spell it out anyway doesn’t make much sense, because it’s EASIER TO SPELL OUT THAN IT IS TO ARGUE!!!! WTH???

    • bleedgreen - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM

      Do you say ‘An RBI’ or ‘A RBI’? Because if you wanna go all the way with this, its not ‘an run batted in’ its ‘a run batted in’.

      • Utley's Hair - Jul 25, 2011 at 1:08 PM

        Not really, since the “a” vs. “an” thing has more to do with sound.

  11. macjacmccoy - Jul 25, 2011 at 8:35 AM

    Damn I was totally against it, I kept saying just proof read, but I feel my self being pulled over to the dark side……. eee…… eddd…… edddiii……iiittttt…..EDIT FEATURE

    • FC - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:02 AM

      FEEL the anger… flowing through your veins…

  12. halladaysbiceps - Jul 25, 2011 at 9:42 AM

    The Phillies are playing like a machine right now. Doc rebounded from that flukish outing in Chicago with authority. The Phils can do no wrong now and will complete the sweep this afternoon with Cliff Lee on the mound.

    I am directing my anger today at Domonic Brown and his atrocious fielding. I can’t take it much longer. Almost every fly ball hit into right field is an adventure for this kid. He looks like he’s trying to catch a grenade in the outfield. And he has no clue as to hitting the cutoff man. That ball that he threw to the plate yesterday was 15 feet off to the 3rd base side of home. Juan Samuel needs to be working with this kid everyday. I would have him practicing in the outfield for a minimum of 2 hours a day. There are no excuses at this level for his piss poor fielding. None at all.

    Sammy, for the love of God, help the kid.

  13. hittfamily - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:22 AM

    Matt Garza pitched great for the 5th time in 6 games, going 7 innings with 2 ER. He left with the lead, only to have Samardzija (?) blow it in 2 batters. He even pitched in with an RBI.

    I was wondering this yesterday while watching the game, and this seems the perfect place to ask with all the knowledgeable contributors. Garza went 7 and gave up 2 ER, for a quality start. If Quade leaves him in, and he gives up 2 ER more, is it still a quality start? Seems to me it would be, because he pitched 6 and gave up 3 or less to meet the standard. After that, it is on the manager for leaving him in too long.

    Can a quality start be blown in the 7th, 8th, 9th innings by managerial error?

    • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:35 AM

      Not a quality start…the stat takes into account the entirety of the start, not the status of it through 6 innings.

      • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:39 AM

        Damn you Fiorentino for beating me to it. I’ve def seen “quality” starts where the guy pitches 8 and earns 4 runs. Those are the situations that the rule feels a bit rigid, but hey, that’s how it goes. Sometimes a closer should be deserving of a save when he has a four-run lead, but dems da breaks. Sometimes sh!tty pitchers go four innings and allow 5 runs, but their offense puts up 10 in those innings and these craptastic display is awarded with a win. Ah, baseball and your crazy stats. My favorite is the blown save, win. That’s a thing of beauty.

      • Chris Fiorentino - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM

        “Sometimes sh!tty pitchers go four innings and allow 5 runs”

        Actually, the sh!tty pitcher needs 5 innings to get the win…which is stupid because it sometimes gets the manager to keep the pitcher in there just to get through 5, even though the sh!tty pitcher is giving up a ton of runs with that 10 run lead. I believe Uncle Cholly was guilty of this earlier this season with Heavy B.

      • hittfamily - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:22 AM

        Thanks for the answer. It really seems like a stupid stat to me. If a guy goes 6/3 every game and finishes with 32 “quality starts”, he still sucks bc his ERA is 4.5. It also seems like a subjective stat that doesnt take quality bullpens vs terrible pens into account. Josh Beckett and David Price can throw the exact same game. Both give up 1 run through 7, then load the bases in the 8th. Josh Bard comes in and strikes out the side, while JP Howell comes in and gives up a slam. Somehow, Josh Beckett gets the QS and Price doesn’t.

        I guess that would apply to ERA and W/L record as well. Is there a new sabremetric stat that takes all that into account, as I am familiar with the simple sabre’s, but not the more complex ones.

      • Jonny 5 - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:53 AM

        It is a stupid stat. If you can’t deduce what’s a good start and what isn’t, I guess it’s ok. I’d fit it in there with W/L records.

  14. metalhead65 - Jul 25, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    wow despite toothpick’s best try to once again prevent it the reds won 2 games in a row! and by that I mean his handling of dontrell willis last night. hey you have gone 6 innings with a blister and kept us in the game but have not thrown a 100 pitches yet so I am sending you back out for the 7th ok?so after walking then wild pitching then giving up the tying run he takes him out. another wasted performance by a reds starter due to Dusty trying to squeeze 1 more inning even though he has a fresh pen. I do not care what your stupid stats say the reds starter’s era would be 1 run lower if he stopped that nonsense! sure I want them to go as long as possible but when a guy like Arroyo who has not gone more than 5 max gives you 6 and you send him out again only to watch him serve up another game changing homer maybe it is time you let somebody else make the pitching decisions. and what other team would keep sending a guy who is weak from mono and a bad back out there to get pounded every start? that and volquez giving up 5 runs a game until they sent him down again is another reason the era is so high. they lost 2 out of 3 to the pirates while giving up 4 runs in 3 games which is not to shabby for a staff that is supposed to suck.

  15. anotheryx - Jul 25, 2011 at 11:02 AM

    A triple shy of cycle! A triple shy of cycle! A triple shy of cycle!
    I’m good now…

  16. goawaydog - Jul 25, 2011 at 12:01 PM

    since Craig can’t seem to have anything better to say about Bumgarner other than he can’t spell his name … how about this:
    He’s walked 27 guys all year in 126 1/3 innings. Twenty-two of those walks came in April and May. He has walked five guys since May 30 covering 10 starts and 62 1/3 innings. He’s currently riding a 23-inning streak without walking a single batter. The Giants have won the last 6 times he has started.
    Giants win another series, this time against a very good Brewers team. See you in Philly after a trip to the White House.

    • APBA Guy - Jul 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM

      Glad to see a consistent Giants commenter on the site. The key for the Giants, imo, is that they are playing better as a team at this point than they were last year. And their starters look excellent again. It’s not even torture anymore.

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