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Report: Carlos Beltran going to the Giants

Jul 27, 2011, 1:23 PM EDT

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UPDATE III: The AP reports that the deal has been agreed to, pending Beltran signing off on it.  Assuming that Beltran gives his approval, it will become offical Thursday afternoon.  The Mets will send Beltran and $4 million to help cover his salary to the Giants in return for Wheeler.

UPDATE II:  Now it’s being reported that it’s just Zack Wheeler heading to New York — maybe with some lesser prospects — but not Gary Brown.

Not that Mets fans can or should complain at all.  Wheeler is only 21 and he’s already one of the top pitching prospects in the game. Since being drafted in the first round in 2009, he has an ERA of 3.99 and 168 strikeouts in 146 and two-thirds innings.

UPDATE:  Whoa, this could be a better deal for the Mets than anyone thought.  With center fielder Gary Brown as the centerpiece it’s a fine enough deal, but Buster Olney just said that the Giants are also going to include Zack Wheeler, the Giants’ top pitching prospect.

If it’s just Wheeler, that makes it an even better deal than just Brown.  If it’s Wheeler AND Brown, mercy, Sandy Alderson has committed highway robbery, especially given how little leverage he had by virtue of Beltran’s no-trade clause.

1:23 PM: It’s not done yet, but Jon Heyman is reporting that the Giants are “in position” to land Carlos Beltran, and Tim Brown of Yahoo! says that says that there is a “good likelihood” of Beltran going to San Francisco. Joel Sherman quotes an executive of a team that fell out of the bidding for Beltran saying “”He is as close to being a Giant as you can be.”

Obviously the talent they have to give up will determine whether this is a good deal — we’ve heard names ranging from Zack Wheeler to Gary Brown to Francisco Peguero to Charlie Culberson mentioned — but getting Beltran makes oodles of sense for the offensively-challenged Giants. For what it’s worth, Jon Paul Morosi is reporting that the Giants are going to include the center fielder Brown, which would be super appealing to the Mets.

Updates as they happen, but everyone seems to think it’s happening today.

  1. Stephen Jay - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    The Mets are in Cincinnati through Thursday. Giants are in Cincinnati starting Friday. If he got traded Thursday afternoon, Beltran could play against the Reds in Cincinnati 7 straight games.

    • gmf1991 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:45 PM

      Beltran’s NTC apparently means there has to be 24 hours before it is “official”. So if he were to still end up playing tonight, that’s possible.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM

        You know there’s no way he plays tonight, right?

      • gmf1991 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:52 PM

        i know he’s not. Just felt like dropping a random fact about his NTC.

  2. gmf1991 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:41 PM

    i’ve also heard Jonathan Sanchez’s name dropped a few times. As a Mets fan I don’t want him, but w/e.

    • mrhojorisin - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM

      Ollie, Pt. 2

  3. gmf1991 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:43 PM

    Exactly. I’d rather keep giving Pelfrey a chance to get his head on straight.

  4. gmf1991 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:48 PM

    Buster Olney says Zach Weeler is the centerpiece. I’m shocked, I’ve been hearing it was Gary Brown. Wheeler is probably the better spec though.

    • kcwhite09 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:05 PM

      Where did you get this info? Wheeler is not getting dealt!!!!!

  5. 24may98 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:56 PM

    It;s too late but the better trade would have been Brown for Rasmus. Top prospects for a corner gimp rental smacks of desperate. Rasmus would have solved the Gnts CF problem for years. Beltran’s knees could blow-up – again – tomorrow.


    • FC - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:44 PM

      Alderson always gets his Brown:

      Alderson: “I want Domonic”

      Phillies: “No Trade”

      Alderson: “Then by God I’ll get Gary!”

  6. kcwhite09 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:03 PM

    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! No way are the Giants giving up Garry Brown or Zach Wheeler. Sabean has said it all along that he isn’t giving those two up. However, I believe the deal would be Peguero, Culberson, and the rest of Beltran’s contract for Beltran. Met’s fans, don’t count on getting Wheeler or Brown because it isn’t going to happen. If that’s the Met’s asking price, then there isn’t going to be a deal.

    • Craig Calcaterra - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:06 PM

      Multiple sources are now saying that, yes, Wheeler is in the deal. Though it appears Brown is not.

    • Paul Zummo - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:11 PM

      You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that Brian Sabean is a competent GM.

    • 24may98 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:21 PM

      Rasmus is now what Brown “might be.”

  7. marklar1025 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:24 PM

    Since the Giants only recent success has come from building from their farm system, I am worried about trading prospects for rental players. BUT lets not forget this same conversation happened a couple years back when the Giants traded for Freddie Sanchez. #2 pitching prospect Tim Alderson was traded for Freddie and what happened to Alderson? Make the trade Giants! You dont get a chance to be back to back CHAMPS often anymore… start making moves like you are used to this success.

  8. 24may98 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:26 PM

    It’s as times like this (Brown+Wheeler = Beltran) when one is content that one has removed oneself from caring about the Gnts.

    • gnyj85 - Jul 27, 2011 at 3:38 PM

      You just won a World Series and your team is looking to add the final touches on back to back championships and you have removed yourself from the Giants?

  9. SOBEIT - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:27 PM

    I can’t believe we were not in on the Rasmus deal and now have to give up Wheeler for a rental of Beltran. I was really looking forward to Wheeler getting the call up next year. Beltran may help this year, but no way we resign him next year. I am glad Brown is staying because we need him since we won’t have Beltran next year.

    I guess the only silver lining for us Giants fans who monitor the minor league teams is that Wheeler seems to have hit a ceiling with development. So I guess that means that management felt that we are going to do whatever it costs to keep Lincecum, Cain, Bum, Wilson, and Vogelsong. The question mark will still be Sanchez. But that also means that management thinks that Eric Surkamp has a higher upside and will round out the rotation as the next lefty. Surkamp will be in AAA next year most likely, so that means a late 2012 or start of 2013 call up.

  10. Spiro Agnew - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    It seems like this information is coming primarily from Buster Olney. I would love for this deal to happen, but when was the last time he got anything right?

  11. danandcasey - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM

    As a Giants Fan, I am not happy with getting Beltran in a deal involving either Wheeler or Brown. I keep flashing back to that deal with the Twins – acquiring A.J. Pierzynski for Joe Nathan and – oh yes, that’s right – Francisco Liriano.

    • nategearhart - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:40 PM

      Keep in mind though, that sometimes the team trading away the veteran is the one that looks the fool. Heck, look at the last Beltran trade: the Royals got Mark Teahen, John Buck, and Mike Wood. The Astros got some awesome second-half and playoffs performance from Beltran, and almost had him locked up afterwards. I know it’s not the same Beltran anymore, but you can’t say that the Astros wouldn’t make that trade again in a heartbeat.

    • blabidibla - Jul 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM

      For all the moaning about that trade, didn’t really hurt the Giants in the long run did it? How many WS did the Twins win with those players. How much $$ do the twins have tied up in those injuries?

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