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No Rasmus, but the White Sox did OK in the Edwin Jackson deal

Jul 27, 2011, 1:06 PM EDT

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Blue Jays acquired RHP Edwin Jackson and 3B-OF Mark Teahen from the White Sox for RHP Zach Stewart and RHP Jason Frasor.

We all know the Blue Jays have bigger plans here.  Oddly enough, though, there was a great deal of speculation last year when the White Sox picked up Edwin Jackson from the Diamondbacks that they were going to flip him to the Nationals for Adam Dunn.

Of course, it didn’t work out that way, and the Jackson-for-Daniel Hudson deal now looks like one of White Sox GM Ken Williams’ biggest missteps.  Jackson ended up going 11-9 with a 3.66 ERA in 30 starts for the White Sox, while Hudson is 17-7 with a 2.99 ERA in 32 starts for the Diamondbacks.  And Hudson is under control through 2016.

Other thoughts:

- The White Sox reportedly tried and failed to turn Jackson and Matt Thornton into Colby Rasmus.  The Blue Jays, though, think they can use Jackson to pull it off, and it may havel already happened.  Joe Strauss said it’ll be Jackson, Octavio Dotel and Mark Rzepczynski to St. Louis for Rasmus.

- The price to land Jackson was a solid pitching prospect in Zach Stewart, the supplemental first-round pick that Jason Frasor would have brought back had he left as a free agent and Mark Teahen’s contract, which still has about $7.25 million left on it.

So, I think the White Sox did pretty well here.  I’m assuming Williams exhausted the Rasmus possibility and couldn’t make it work.  He should have been able to get a better prospect than Stewart from another team, but finding someone else to take Teahen’s contract would have been difficult.  The Teahen signing was another one of Williams’ missteps.  Teahen was a below average regular in each of his last two seasons in Kansas City, yet Williams not only felt the need to trade for him, but he also gave him a three-year, $14 million deal before Teahen ever had an at-bat for the White Sox.

Now Williams has an extra $5.5 million for next year with Teahen off the books.  He can keep Frasor and the draft pick he’ll bring this winter or swap him for another prospect.  Stewart’s stock has fallen some, but I think he’ll turn into a very good reliever if put back into the bullpen.  The Blue Jays have been starting him since picking him up from the Reds in the Scott Rolen deal and he’ll be a candidate for the White Sox rotation next year, but I really feel he’d be best as an eighth-inning guy and maybe a possible closer down the line.

- The draft picks here are a wash.  Jackson and Frasor are both free agents after the season.  Frasor had to accept arbitration last year because no one wanted to sign him as a Type A free agent.  However, this year he projects as a Type B, meaning the team that signs him wouldn’t have to forfeit a pick.  Jackson, although he’s probably going to end up signing a deal worth $30 million or more, also projects as a Type B free agent.  The Jays last year traded for the Rockies’ Miguel Olivo after the season solely for the draft pick he’d bring when he left as a free agent, and they’re more attuned to draft pick compensation than most teams in baseball.  That wasn’t really a factor here, though.

- Perhaps the biggest plus for the White Sox here is simply that Ken Williams gets to turn the page.  This year has been a disaster for his reputation, given Hudson’s emergence as a top-flight pitcher and the epic failures of high-priced acquisitions Adam Dunn and Alex Rios.  There’s still hope for Dunn and Rios, but Jackson wasn’t going to be brought back next year and Teahen, while not useless, wasn’t about to stop being overpaid.  There are probably more dominoes to fall, and it will be interesting to see if he decides to further remake the 2012 team by shipping off either John Danks or Gavin Floyd next.

  1. proudlycanadian - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:11 PM

    Well written and quite thoughtful Matthew.

    • thekcubrats - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:33 PM

      Well, no grammatical errors pop out, and it’s hard to put so many words into one place without some thought involved. But really. So Matthew, what is actually up here, you trying to stake a claim you can truly own (since, you know, no one else who knows anything at all about baseball will take this stance)? I’d call this sophomoric, but that’d be too much of a compliment. Were you homeschooled?

      • chomsky66 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:35 PM

        How about sophomoronic?

      • wlschneider09 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:50 PM

        I’m not sure which is more confusing, your post or the fact that it got two thumbs up.

      • thekcubrats - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM

        Okay, I got a little ad hominem. Not cool. I will try to do better. But:

        This “thoughtful” post is just stream of… well, let’s say consciousness, to stay in keeping with the usual phrase and to keep us out of the gutter. The piece contradicts itself. First the ChiSox are getting a pick. Then, they aren’t because it’s a wash. But it’s more than that sort of mental typo, happens all the time in Blogistan. The real problem is the conclusion drawn based on nothing but… that the ChiSox did okay. They most certainly did not, and no one who knows baseball is saying otherwise. The thinking is supposed to happen before fingers hit the keyboard. At least, that’s what a pro oughta do.

        You are right that Kenny wants to turn the page. Some truly egregious mistakes, compounding. Just don’t pretend that this isn’t the latest one.

  2. natstowngreg - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:31 PM

    Ken Williams strikes me as being like some fantasy baseball players I know. If you make enough deals, eventually something good will happen.

  3. screename529 - Jul 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM

    “the Jackson-for-Daniel Hudson deal now looks like one of White Sox GM Ken Williams’ biggest missteps.”

    I think you forgot to include the word “many”.

  4. dirtyharry1971 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    the jays are getting serious in their bid to finish in 4th place in the AL east this season! I think this move clinches that no problem!!

  5. chomsky66 - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:13 PM

    Wait a second.

    The Sox essentially gave up Teahen and the compensation pick for Jackson leaving as an FA and the OPPORTUNITY COST of selling Jackson for nothing, for Frasor and Stewart. If Frasor departs as a FA, then it’s more like Teahen for Stewart, else it’s Teahen + pick for Stewart (a lousy prospect, do your homework) and Frasor.

    What your “analysis” misses is that a smart GM acts on the Jackson opportunity and turns it into a true top prospect — as Anthopolous proved is possible, turning him and fungible parts (Corey Patterson????) into Rasmus.

  6. FC - Jul 27, 2011 at 2:52 PM

    AA is doing some serious Alchemy right now

  7. jdd428 - Jul 27, 2011 at 9:42 PM

    Everyone is always ripping Williams, but his “many” missteps are exaggerated. Yes, the Hudson-Jackson deal looks awful – especially with Holmberg developing into a pretty good prospect. But it’s hard to imagine Hudson having the same success against AL lineups at U.S. Cellular Field. The Rios claim was a gamble that paid off initially but he has gone back to his old, awful ways. The Dunn signing wasn’t a mistake – the guy had been consistent up until now and was one of the prized free agents of the offseason. The fact that he’s having such a horrendous year doesn’t make it a bad move, just a move that hasn’t paid off. The Peavy trade, while it hasn’t delivered the Cy-level Peavy, isn’t awful either. Clayton Richard is solid, but unspectacular. Aaron Poreda is a bust and Adam Russell was just released by a different organization. Kenny gets ripped for being aggressive, but that aggression did produce a WS. Sure, the Nick Swisher and Mark Teahen experiments failed, but he got Matt Thornton for Joe Borchard and John Danks for Brandon McCarthy.

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