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Derek Holland has as many shutouts this year as Andy Pettitte did in his career

Jul 30, 2011, 3:58 PM EDT

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Rangers left-hander Derek Holland pitched a four-hitter in a 3-0 win over the Blue Jays for his fourth shutout in his last 11 starts.

He matched Cliff Lee for the major league lead with four shutouts this season, and he has as many shutouts in two months as possible Hall of Famer Andy Pettitte did in 16 seasons.

Even with all of his recent success, Holland has a 4.14 ERA for the season.  He’s allowed five earned runs or more in seven of his 22 starts.

Still, today’s performance should make him pretty close to untouchable in trade discussions (supposedly, the Padres have asked for him in the Heath Bell talks).  Holland is just 24, and he has the stuff to shut down any offense when he’s on.  His inconsistency is a concern, but he’s someone the Rangers are likely to need if they’re going to make another deep run into the postseason.

  1. hittfamily - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:05 PM

    So how many shutouts does he have? Pretty important thing to leave out.

    • bskeezy00 - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 PM

      He’s got 4 this season

      • hittfamily - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:14 PM

        OK thanks. It said 4 in his last 11 starts, so I figured he had more than 4. If I hear Jim is 5 hits in his last 10 at bats, I assume Jim has more than 5 hits this year.

      • Matthew Pouliot - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:29 PM

        Yeah, that’s fair. I clarified the article.

      • hittfamily - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:55 PM

        Thanks for clarification. Cool stat.

  2. proudlycanadian - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM

    I guess that this comparison hurts Pettitte’s HOF chances. Jack Morris had 28 shutouts and still can’t make the HOF.

    • Kevin S. - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:06 PM

      I think “more shutouts” might be the only argument towards Jack Morris having a better HOF case than Andy Pettitte.

  3. bskeezy00 - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:09 PM

    I like this kid a lot… Think he’s going to be pretty special if he can stay healthy and continue to improve.

  4. Ari Collins - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:11 PM

    Andy Pettitte is only a Hall of Famer if you don’t believe that you need to be a great pitcher to be in there.

  5. arrows80 - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:12 PM

    I’m pretty sure Pettite and his near-4.00 career ERA will not be in the Hall of Fame.

    • Kevin S. - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:15 PM

      Considering Jack Morris and his 3.90 ERA are pulling a little over 50%…

      • proudlycanadian - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:28 PM

        Pettitte won 240 games, lost 138 and had an ERA of 3.88. Jack Morris won 254 games, lost 186 and had a 3.90 ERA. As I said, if Jack Morris is not a Hall of Famer then Andy Pettitte is not a Hall of Famer.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:36 PM

        So, Pettitte had fourteen fewer wins and forty-eight fewer losses. He also had a slightly lower ERA, despite pitching in a much more offensively-oriented era – thus, his ERA+ is 117 to Morris’ 105. Both fWAR and rWAR agree Pettitte was worth about ten more wins over the course of his career. How, again, is Morris more deserving?

      • Ari Collins - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:42 PM

        Pettitte was far better than Morris. Still not a HOF-er, though.

      • Ari Collins - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:43 PM

        Derek Holland, though. That guy’s a shoe-in.

      • Kevin S. - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:45 PM

        Ari, I’m fine with neither getting in. Given that Morris has half the electorate behind him, however, I kind of feel it’s worth mentioning that Pettitte was the vastly superior pitcher.

      • hittfamily - Jul 30, 2011 at 6:40 PM

        Petitte or Jack Morris is a no brainer. No pitcher would rather pitch in the 90’s and 2000’s than the 80’s. Similiar ERA’s= Petitte better pitcher. Still not a HOFer, Maddux, Clemens, Glavine, Johnson, Smoltze, Pedro, ….Petitte. No way!!!

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Jul 30, 2011 at 4:43 PM

      Pitcher A – 3.88 ERA – 117 ERA+
      Pitcher B – 3.90 ERA – 105 ERA+

      A is Pettitte, B is Morris

      • hittfamily - Jul 30, 2011 at 6:44 PM

        Morris routinely faced player A
        Petitte routinely faced player B,C,D

        Player A is Walt Weiss
        Player B is ARod
        Player C is Nomar
        Player D is Miguel Tejada

  6. Richard In Big D - Jul 30, 2011 at 9:19 PM

    The big concern with Holland is his consistency. He’s 10-4 on the season with 4 shutouts. If that’s all the consistency that can be expected of him, lock him up long term now. What in the hell do people want? If he gives you 4 or 5 quality starts for every blowup, I’ll take as many of those as I can find…

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