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		<title>By: cleverbob</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-172189</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cleverbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Enjoy the rest of your weekend.]]></description>
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		<title>By: craigbhill</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-172140</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[craigbhill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys are TYPICAL of the irrational fan.  Don&#039;t worry, i&#039;m outtahere, enjoy yourselves, i have no idea what PFT is, and considering you recommended it, i&#039;m sure it&#039;s more of this back and forth garbage that never goes anywhere.  I wanted facts, not emotion and excuses for your team, which you unable to bring to the table.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are TYPICAL of the irrational fan.  Don&#8217;t worry, i&#8217;m outtahere, enjoy yourselves, i have no idea what PFT is, and considering you recommended it, i&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s more of this back and forth garbage that never goes anywhere.  I wanted facts, not emotion and excuses for your team, which you unable to bring to the table.</p>
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		<title>By: cleverbob</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-172117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cleverbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know if you&#039;re trying to come at me or misterzoomer, but save that nonsense far PFT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re trying to come at me or misterzoomer, but save that nonsense far PFT.</p>
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		<title>By: craigbhill</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-172108</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[craigbhill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, i didn&#039;t really want to communicate with a guy so defensive about his team he couldn&#039;t take even the simplest factual observations of how the team has NOT performed in October the last 2 years as indication it is not on the upswing, but on the downswing, without childishly attacking the statician of that most important reality, play in October.  Like when Atlanta won all those divisions in a row but rolled up and died in October, they were not in the conversation any more regarding what MATTERED.  You come off like you wear red Philly jammies to bed, so when anyone who reminds you of the last 2 Octobers must be an enemy! who must be attacked!  That kind of horse shit is worthless in actual whatchacall &quot;discussion&quot;, which is where i came from and how i started.

My questions were directed to the phutures guy, not you.

Have another cheesesteak and fight with someone else, big boy.  Your team showed a lack of life against Frisco last week, the team that shouldn&#039;t have beaten them (you) last year, and you can&#039;t take take that reality, let alone discuss it without anger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, i didn&#8217;t really want to communicate with a guy so defensive about his team he couldn&#8217;t take even the simplest factual observations of how the team has NOT performed in October the last 2 years as indication it is not on the upswing, but on the downswing, without childishly attacking the statician of that most important reality, play in October.  Like when Atlanta won all those divisions in a row but rolled up and died in October, they were not in the conversation any more regarding what MATTERED.  You come off like you wear red Philly jammies to bed, so when anyone who reminds you of the last 2 Octobers must be an enemy! who must be attacked!  That kind of horse shit is worthless in actual whatchacall &#8220;discussion&#8221;, which is where i came from and how i started.</p>
<p>My questions were directed to the phutures guy, not you.</p>
<p>Have another cheesesteak and fight with someone else, big boy.  Your team showed a lack of life against Frisco last week, the team that shouldn&#8217;t have beaten them (you) last year, and you can&#8217;t take take that reality, let alone discuss it without anger.</p>
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		<title>By: cleverbob</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-172071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cleverbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They didn&#039;t face Halladay or Lee, and Lincecum went up against Kendrick, so this wasn&#039;t exactly a realistic preview of the playoffs. Apparently, this had to be explained.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t face Halladay or Lee, and Lincecum went up against Kendrick, so this wasn&#8217;t exactly a realistic preview of the playoffs. Apparently, this had to be explained.</p>
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		<title>By: misterzoomer</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterzoomer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What has to be explained to you is that a short series is not an ample sample from which to draw a conclusion.   Can you say anything without sounding condescending?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has to be explained to you is that a short series is not an ample sample from which to draw a conclusion.   Can you say anything without sounding condescending?</p>
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		<title>By: craigbhill</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[craigbhill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 00:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um, misterzoomman??  Until Atlanta wins something, they don&#039;t count.  The power i&#039;m talking about is the results in October, capiche??  The Giants just took 2 of 3 from your boys and looked better than Philly did, which lost their first series since forever.  And don&#039;t look now, but Frisco beat Philly last October.  Hate to break the news.  So that&#039;s whatcha kinda call the power in the NL tilting West, yeah.  And btw, i was rooting for the Phils against them.  So you can stop sounding defensively offensive.

This has to be explained?  Apparently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, misterzoomman??  Until Atlanta wins something, they don&#8217;t count.  The power i&#8217;m talking about is the results in October, capiche??  The Giants just took 2 of 3 from your boys and looked better than Philly did, which lost their first series since forever.  And don&#8217;t look now, but Frisco beat Philly last October.  Hate to break the news.  So that&#8217;s whatcha kinda call the power in the NL tilting West, yeah.  And btw, i was rooting for the Phils against them.  So you can stop sounding defensively offensive.</p>
<p>This has to be explained?  Apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: misterzoomer</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171856</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterzoomer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Phillies have the best record in the league, the Braves aren&#039;t far behind and the balance of power has shifted West?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Phillies have the best record in the league, the Braves aren&#8217;t far behind and the balance of power has shifted West?</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171812</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, he talks about some of this stuff. Here is a link:
http://mostlyawasteoftime.com/2011/07/30/a-plea-to-phillies-fans-start-acting-like-you-belong/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, he talks about some of this stuff. Here is a link:<br />
<a href="http://mostlyawasteoftime.com/2011/07/30/a-plea-to-phillies-fans-start-acting-like-you-belong/" rel="nofollow">http://mostlyawasteoftime.com/2011/07/30/a-plea-to-phillies-fans-start-acting-like-you-belong/</a></p>
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		<title>By: craigbhill</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171806</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[craigbhill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say, phutures, what can you relate regarding the funding of the Phils?  Do their resources come from attendance + stadium sales + tv &amp; radio, or are they seriously in debt?  Does the ownership group consist of at least one billionaire who can just shell out the cash on whim?  Is the $170 mill payroll pinching, or is there more $$ coming down the pipeline to replenish the offense?  Or will that spigot essentially be turned off, and the farm system be relied upon?

I appreciate your expertise on your very great team.

Tho it seems to me, and i am no Giants fan, that the balance of power has tilited West.  Look at recent evolution:  The Phils win the pennant, and the World Series.  Then the pennant but not the World Series.  Then the division but not the pennant.  Their hitting is not appreciably better.  Pence will help, but the move for him was out of a desperation more needed be done before the trade deadline and coincidentally before the Phils go to Frisco next week.  I&#039;m curious as to your take.  Are you a homer and blindly believe when there is diminishing reason to, or a realist who knows that if you get past Frisco, which seems to do everything right a champion needs to win at least the pennant, you&#039;ll be pretty fortunate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say, phutures, what can you relate regarding the funding of the Phils?  Do their resources come from attendance + stadium sales + tv &amp; radio, or are they seriously in debt?  Does the ownership group consist of at least one billionaire who can just shell out the cash on whim?  Is the $170 mill payroll pinching, or is there more $$ coming down the pipeline to replenish the offense?  Or will that spigot essentially be turned off, and the farm system be relied upon?</p>
<p>I appreciate your expertise on your very great team.</p>
<p>Tho it seems to me, and i am no Giants fan, that the balance of power has tilited West.  Look at recent evolution:  The Phils win the pennant, and the World Series.  Then the pennant but not the World Series.  Then the division but not the pennant.  Their hitting is not appreciably better.  Pence will help, but the move for him was out of a desperation more needed be done before the trade deadline and coincidentally before the Phils go to Frisco next week.  I&#8217;m curious as to your take.  Are you a homer and blindly believe when there is diminishing reason to, or a realist who knows that if you get past Frisco, which seems to do everything right a champion needs to win at least the pennant, you&#8217;ll be pretty fortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: seeingwhatsticks</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seeingwhatsticks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lee- $25 million
Halladay- $20 million
Howard- $25 million

Utley is a FA in 2 years, Victorino after next year.  Based on what Howard&#039;s making it would stand to reason Utley will make at least $20 million (or not be retained) and Victorino at least $10 million (and I think that&#039;s conservative).  That means in 3 years the Phillies would be spending $100 million on 5 players.  Let&#039;s say they also retain Hamels, after this year.  That&#039;s probably going to be another $15 million minimum, which means it&#039;s now $115 million for 6 players.  That doesn&#039;t really seem like a realistically cap friendly situation.  My guess is at least 2 out of the Utley, Victorino, Hamels trio is gone at the end of their contracts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee- $25 million<br />
Halladay- $20 million<br />
Howard- $25 million</p>
<p>Utley is a FA in 2 years, Victorino after next year.  Based on what Howard&#8217;s making it would stand to reason Utley will make at least $20 million (or not be retained) and Victorino at least $10 million (and I think that&#8217;s conservative).  That means in 3 years the Phillies would be spending $100 million on 5 players.  Let&#8217;s say they also retain Hamels, after this year.  That&#8217;s probably going to be another $15 million minimum, which means it&#8217;s now $115 million for 6 players.  That doesn&#8217;t really seem like a realistically cap friendly situation.  My guess is at least 2 out of the Utley, Victorino, Hamels trio is gone at the end of their contracts.</p>
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		<title>By: cleverbob</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171770</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cleverbob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then it was the perfect compromise]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then it was the perfect compromise</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s had good peripherals. He, D&#039;Arnaud, and Drabek will be very good players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s had good peripherals. He, D&#8217;Arnaud, and Drabek will be very good players.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They won&#039;t have free agent compensation as we know it in two years. And Pence won&#039;t be paid much less than market value the next two years.

So Beltran decided not to be good his first year, but great the rest of his Mets years until he was injured?

If Beltran could play at his best level every year of his career, he&#039;d be a hall of famer.

And considering his record postseasons, the Giants will be very glad of his apparent ability to turn it on whenever he wants.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They won&#8217;t have free agent compensation as we know it in two years. And Pence won&#8217;t be paid much less than market value the next two years.</p>
<p>So Beltran decided not to be good his first year, but great the rest of his Mets years until he was injured?</p>
<p>If Beltran could play at his best level every year of his career, he&#8217;d be a hall of famer.</p>
<p>And considering his record postseasons, the Giants will be very glad of his apparent ability to turn it on whenever he wants.</p>
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		<title>By: misterzoomer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[misterzoomer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and he is a free agent with no draft pick compensation while Pence has two arb years and the possibility of draft pick compensation.  I&#039;m not a huge fan of the trade because I think Pence will coat more than he is worth the next two years but it isn&#039;t the dramatic overpay others have made it out to be.  Plus, Beltran is only much, much better when he chooses to be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and he is a free agent with no draft pick compensation while Pence has two arb years and the possibility of draft pick compensation.  I&#8217;m not a huge fan of the trade because I think Pence will coat more than he is worth the next two years but it isn&#8217;t the dramatic overpay others have made it out to be.  Plus, Beltran is only much, much better when he chooses to be.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is 8-9 with a 4.67 ERA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is 8-9 with a 4.67 ERA.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171749</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And is a free agent at the end of the season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And is a free agent at the end of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171748</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carrasco has done an awful lot for the Indians. The rest of those guys haven&#039;t had a chance to make an impact yet, but most of them are very likely about to.

And Lee himself was a prospect, traded along with Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore for Bartolo Colon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrasco has done an awful lot for the Indians. The rest of those guys haven&#8217;t had a chance to make an impact yet, but most of them are very likely about to.</p>
<p>And Lee himself was a prospect, traded along with Brandon Phillips and Grady Sizemore for Bartolo Colon.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari Collins</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ari Collins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But Beltran is a much, much better player. And the Giants only gave up one top prospect instead of two.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Beltran is a much, much better player. And the Giants only gave up one top prospect instead of two.</p>
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		<title>By: hank10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hank10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What has Kyle Drabek, Travis d&#039;Arnaud and Michael Taylor done fro the Jays as part of the Halladay deal? What has Marson, Carrasco, Knapp and Donald done for the Indians in the Lee trade? Those guys were considered top talent in the Phils&#039; system and they&#039;re still in AAA. When a contender wants to win NOW, they do what they have to do.

All prospects are suspects until they prove otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has Kyle Drabek, Travis d&#8217;Arnaud and Michael Taylor done fro the Jays as part of the Halladay deal? What has Marson, Carrasco, Knapp and Donald done for the Indians in the Lee trade? Those guys were considered top talent in the Phils&#8217; system and they&#8217;re still in AAA. When a contender wants to win NOW, they do what they have to do.</p>
<p>All prospects are suspects until they prove otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: russ99a</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[russ99a]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny, Phils fans think that they gave up too much, and Astros fans think that Wade sold short and could have gotten more, especially if the rumors earlier were true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, Phils fans think that they gave up too much, and Astros fans think that Wade sold short and could have gotten more, especially if the rumors earlier were true.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dr, my mind didn&#039;t even comprehend the notion that Kendrick will still be on this team in 3-4 years.  He never ever has a spot on the team...he&#039;s usually the 5th pitcher then the long man...then the spot starter...then back into the pen.  They have tried over and over to give him a shot, and he has always failed at it.  If he hasn&#039;t figured it out by now, time to cut bait.  On another team, maybe he does better, but I don&#039;t see him as anything more than a #5 starter at best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dr, my mind didn&#8217;t even comprehend the notion that Kendrick will still be on this team in 3-4 years.  He never ever has a spot on the team&#8230;he&#8217;s usually the 5th pitcher then the long man&#8230;then the spot starter&#8230;then back into the pen.  They have tried over and over to give him a shot, and he has always failed at it.  If he hasn&#8217;t figured it out by now, time to cut bait.  On another team, maybe he does better, but I don&#8217;t see him as anything more than a #5 starter at best.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I go to sleep with the nightmare of Kyle Kendrick being a Philly in 3-4 years. He seems like a decent guy and I feel bad that Dubee bullies him, but he isn&#039;t good. Even when he gets results, he isn&#039;t good. He always pitches the same...on the edge of disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go to sleep with the nightmare of Kyle Kendrick being a Philly in 3-4 years. He seems like a decent guy and I feel bad that Dubee bullies him, but he isn&#8217;t good. Even when he gets results, he isn&#8217;t good. He always pitches the same&#8230;on the edge of disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doc is signed through 2014(team option) and I have a hard time thinking they wouldn&#039;t extend him another 3 years.  He is like a fine wine...he is getting better with age.  No reason to think he won&#039;t be pitching until he is 40.  I believe in 2016, you will still see Doc/Lee at the head of the rotation and still see Ryan Howard knocking in 120 runs...if his &quot;luck&quot; holds up...LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc is signed through 2014(team option) and I have a hard time thinking they wouldn&#8217;t extend him another 3 years.  He is like a fine wine&#8230;he is getting better with age.  No reason to think he won&#8217;t be pitching until he is 40.  I believe in 2016, you will still see Doc/Lee at the head of the rotation and still see Ryan Howard knocking in 120 runs&#8230;if his &#8220;luck&#8221; holds up&#8230;LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: BG-BG-BG-BG!</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BG-BG-BG-BG!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it will be nice to have a .300 hitter in the lineup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it will be nice to have a .300 hitter in the lineup.</p>
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		<title>By: chew1985</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171708</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chew1985]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3-4 years from now...Lee, Hamels, Worley, Kendrick and a baby ace or two...Madson maybe, Bastardo, Stutes, Chooch/Valle, Howard, Utley, Martinez at short or third, slapping the ball around the infield for .270/.280 average and Ozzie Smith like fielding, Brown in left and between Victorino and Pence, at least one still here, probably both.  NOT an unrealistic or salary cap-busting scenario.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3-4 years from now&#8230;Lee, Hamels, Worley, Kendrick and a baby ace or two&#8230;Madson maybe, Bastardo, Stutes, Chooch/Valle, Howard, Utley, Martinez at short or third, slapping the ball around the infield for .270/.280 average and Ozzie Smith like fielding, Brown in left and between Victorino and Pence, at least one still here, probably both.  NOT an unrealistic or salary cap-busting scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: phuturephillies</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171699</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phuturephillies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is, the Phillies took him in the 8th round, signed him for $200K to not a whole lot of fanfare, and now he&#039;s the key player in this deal. 

The Phillies total draft bonus outlay for these 3 prospects

Cosart, 38th round in 2008 - $550K
Singleton, 8th round in 2009 - $200K
Zeid, 10th round in 2009 - $10K

$760K in bonus money, none of the players taken before the 8th round.

The Phillies do a tremendous job scouting and replenishing every year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is, the Phillies took him in the 8th round, signed him for $200K to not a whole lot of fanfare, and now he&#8217;s the key player in this deal. </p>
<p>The Phillies total draft bonus outlay for these 3 prospects</p>
<p>Cosart, 38th round in 2008 &#8211; $550K<br />
Singleton, 8th round in 2009 &#8211; $200K<br />
Zeid, 10th round in 2009 &#8211; $10K</p>
<p>$760K in bonus money, none of the players taken before the 8th round.</p>
<p>The Phillies do a tremendous job scouting and replenishing every year.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If anybody is interested in Phillies prospects, I highly suggest you read this guys blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anybody is interested in Phillies prospects, I highly suggest you read this guys blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right you are.  And the next Singleton is 17 right now, waiting to join be drafted into the Phillies farm system...I believe that was the OP&#039;s point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right you are.  And the next Singleton is 17 right now, waiting to join be drafted into the Phillies farm system&#8230;I believe that was the OP&#8217;s point.</p>
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		<title>By: drmonkeyarmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/30/some-more-pence-ive-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-171696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drmonkeyarmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that is the point. The Phillies do an excellent job of scouting and drafting players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that is the point. The Phillies do an excellent job of scouting and drafting players.</p>
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