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Man who fell to death at Coors Field in May had alcohol and marijuana in system

Aug 1, 2011, 4:46 PM EDT

Coors Field

An autopsy has revealed that 27-year-old Robert Seamans had alcohol and marijuana in his system when he fell to his death at Coors Field on May 24.

According to the Associated Press the amount of alcohol found in Seamans’ system was twice the legal limit to drive and the medical examiner’s office deemed the combination of alcohol and marijuana a “significant” factor in his death.

Seamans lost his balance while attempting to slide down a railing and struck his head on the concrete following an estimated 20-foot drop.

  1. ThatGuy - Aug 1, 2011 at 4:55 PM

    Is this supposed to surprise anyone.

    • Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward - Aug 1, 2011 at 5:28 PM

      No?

  2. buckybadger - Aug 1, 2011 at 5:40 PM

    It’s Denver so of course there was. Pot is basically legal and he was at a baseball game so of course he was drinking.

  3. frankvzappa - Aug 1, 2011 at 5:44 PM

    Pay no attention to the anti-marijuana propaganda contained herein. The test they did probably only showed that he had smoked marijuana in the last 30 days, so making any kind of connection thereto is irresponsible and knowingly fraudulent. Not only that, but even if he smoked before the game, there is no way he was still really high that long afterward. But hey, its fascism, so gotta tow the party line right?

    I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that alcohol was a contributing factor, like it is every day in accidents everywhere. No need for the BS propaganda.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM

      Propaganda? It is simply stating a fact. If they had been opiates in his system, I’m sure it would have stated that as well. Think you are being overly sensitive to the subject. Not everything is in some way meant to subvert the pro-marijuana faction. That group always crack me up. First, I fully support the legalization or decriminalization of marijuana, but it always makes me laugh when people say it should be legal for medical purposes. Absolutely no need for that. There is a THC pill called Marinol. There is no medical condition that smoking marijuana would treat that Marinol won’t. To me the pro-marijuana crowd should just be honest….they want it legal so they can get high. That’s cool. To each their own. Shit, if I had to pick one substance being legal between THC containing products and alcohol, I’d go with the THC.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:21 PM

        Don’t need the Marinol, Doc. I’ve got a Volcano.

      • cur68 - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:13 PM

        And that drmonkeyarmy, is my position on the THC matter exactly.

        BTW: Old-world monkeyarmy or prehensile-tail-newworld monkeyarmy?

      • wintwins - Aug 2, 2011 at 1:30 AM

        “There is no medical condition that smoking marijuana would treat that Marinol won’t. To me the pro-marijuana crowd should just be honest….they want it legal so they can get high.”

        First, Marinol takes a lot longer to become effective compared to marijuana (assuming the MJ is smoked, not eaten). Some people prefer marijuana to Marinol because they find the purified / synthesized version is too powerful and too intense. For example, while it may be true that there is no medical condition that codeine would treat that Heroin won’t, that doesn’t mean I would prefer the heroin. I know that’s not the best analogy, but I’m just saying that sometimes people prefer the less-effective marijuana BECAUSE it is less-effective.

        As far as wanting marijuana legal so they can get high, yeah, there’s probably a lot of truth to that, but people forget that Marinol also has strong intoxicating effects.

        Also, many people resent paying big bucks to a pharmaceutical company for something that (if legal) they could just grow themselves.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 2, 2011 at 7:10 AM

        Fair point about the strength argument. There are multiple strengths though. I’m not going to pretend to know how they differing strengths equate to quantities of marijuana. Those two points are valid, but in my opinion would not be strong enough to rewrite drug laws in this country. As far as not wanting to pay pharmaceutical companies big bucks, I can understand that. A couple counter points: it comes generically, those who take it for approved indications are generally insured and shell out way more for their condition necessitating Marinol usage, and I could grow poppy seeds in my back yard and the conversion from poppy see to morphine to heroin isn’t the most difficult process in the world…..doesn’t mean I should do it to subvert the drug companies.

    • hittfamily - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:22 PM

      Although I agree with your statement on the marijuana not contributing to his death, I still thumbs downed it. After your terrible post on Irabu’s death, you will always receive a thumbs down from me Zappa.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:33 PM

        Hey, congratulations on the 9 years. I am coming up on 10 in November.

      • aaronp2098 - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:02 PM

        Actually I found it humorous…I’m pretty sure you almost have to expect something awful when you jump into comments in almost any story online anymore.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:11 PM

        Not on here my friend. I expect the regular posters on here to at least be decent in their posts. Craig and the other bloggers do too. Mocking the death of people has no place on this blog. Somebody got banned for being making terrible statements following the death of that guy in Texas.

      • hittfamily - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM

        Congrats on the almost 10 years Army. Tough to try, even tougher to commit.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:32 PM

      I just read the Irabu post….what in the hell is wrong with you?

      • frankvzappa - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:24 PM

        All you fools have sensibilities that are far too delicate. Life is a sick cosmic joke, and you have to be able to laugh at it without taking it all too seriously.

        And anyway, that Irabu comment wasn’t even out of line. Far worse things could have been said. And at the time, it very well could have been. Maybe I was genuinely wondering? All you high and mighty douches need to find something better to whine about.

      • hittfamily - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:30 PM

        Why do you only post when death is involved. You are a turd on societies lawn.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:42 PM

        No, one shouldn’t take themselves too seriously. One also shouldn’t make inappropriate jokes or whatever at the deaths of others. As hittfamily stated, you only see to have opinions on things related to morbid events. Why is that? Is it that your overwhelming cynicism has gotten the better of you?

      • cur68 - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:21 PM

        Well ‘zappa (you are by the way, using the name of a far better man than you. I like to think that Frank woulda kicked your a$$) you seem pretty worked up about ‘fascism’ there in the USA. Rarely fail to mention it in fact. Funny you’re so “high and mighty douchy” about that but not the suicide of a young man. Don’t notice you laughing about ‘USA fascism’ as a “sick cosmic joke” Hey, take your own advice; “you have to be able to laugh at it without taking it all too seriously”. Maybe “All you fools (that) have sensibilities that are far too delicate” ought to try some of what you dish, eh?

      • JBerardi - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:25 PM

        “All you fools have sensibilities that are far too delicate. Life is a sick cosmic joke, and you have to be able to laugh at it without taking it all too seriously.”

        TRANSLATION: I made a horrible comment that I have no reasonable defense for, but I’m unwilling to apologize or simply admit I was wrong, so you’re all being too serious!

      • frankvzappa - Aug 1, 2011 at 10:02 PM

        All you whiners need to maybe watch a little more football or something. Maybe some war movies. Something to toughen you up. You are all like my ex-girlfriend, just can’t handle death and feel the need to be overemotional about everything to prove something to yourself and others about how freaking pure your conscience is.

        *Pukes*

      • hittfamily - Aug 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM

        Perhaps you confuse war movies with real life. They are actors, who get to return home when the fake blood has been removed. Hideki Irabu has children, and a wife, and parents whose lives will never be the same. The parents of the man who got drunk, and did something he wouldn’t otherwise do, will likely never know joy again. Their worst day before his death will be better than their greatest day after. I have empathy for these people, as do the majority of posters on this site.

        You on the other hand, believe this to be a joke, a sick cruel, inhumane joke. You don’t feel other peoples pain the way other human beings do. Your ex-girlfriends made the best decision of their lives when they walked out on your sorry ass. I hope you find the help you desperately need, but I’m afraid no medication or treatment can turn a monster to a human.

      • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 11:00 PM

        Toughen me up? Let me tell you something kid, I’ve been through a bunch of shit in my life that you couldn’t even imagine. Having empathy for people does not equal “needing to be toughened up”. It is called being human.

      • frankvzappa - Aug 2, 2011 at 2:08 AM

        You guys crack me up. Just because you are all a little overemotional whilst on the rag right now, doesn’t mean I’m a monster. You all just lack a sense of humor. I had the only original, witty, perfectly executed comment in that whole thread that wasn’t the same stale “derp derp RIP Irabu derp derp duh derp” variety. You should all be thanking me for not being an automaton and bringing some spice to things.
        And to cur68, saying that FZ would disapprove of my comments, you obviously have never listened to any of FZ’s music, because he joked about everything, including things like the deaths of Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and others. That is ground even I would not tread upon. So next time try knowing what you are talking about before just typing a bunch of nonsense that has no basis in reality.

      • cur68 - Aug 2, 2011 at 3:27 AM

        You’re giving out advice, eh? Pretty free and easy with it I noticed. Not so keen to TAKE your own advice, but pretty good at spewing it. Can’t win with the ignorant I guess. I’ll quote you something you should recognize: A mind is like a parachute. It doesnt work if it’s not open.

        As for Frank, hell yeah he joked around. Made fun of a lot of things. But not so much when it came to suicide you’ll notice. Even the lyrics to “Suicide Chump” are more about NOT taking your life. Certainly not a douchey cheap shot like you did. Not like that. He tended to satirize those whose excesses brought them grief not the troubled who couldn’t cope. Clearly you’ve listened to a lot of Frank’s work. Clearly you haven’t heard much of it though. Yeah, he’da kicked your sorry a$$ good.

      • frankvzappa - Aug 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM

        Frank would’ve laughed harder than anyone at what I said. I have FZ partially to thank for my sophisticated sense of humor. Kicked my ass? You have to be joking. And thanks for bringing up “Suicide Chump”, which I give you credit for even knowing in the first place, but unfortunately that song just makes fun of people who try to kill themselves. Frank would have said “at least he got it right the first time”, which is much worse than my comment. So try again.

        “We’ll just jump in the bathtub with that other guy Jim and make him be more careful,
        We can visit Big Mama, and wap her on the back when she eats her sandwich,
        We can take care of Janis when she gets so depressed, she can’t take it no more…”

        -FZ

  4. jssgriffi17 - Aug 1, 2011 at 5:53 PM

    Why would alcohol In his system mean anything??? You idiots sell it at your ballpark, it’s legal! The railings at these stadiums are way to low. Don’t care if the standard and codes say they pass. Then they need to make changes to the standards and codes.

    • drmonkeyarmy - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:15 PM

      Nobody is saying that it is not legal. They are merely stating that alcohol contributed to the fall and his subsequent death. I’m not sure of the exact incident, but it sounds like he was drunk, lost his balance and fell. So, it is entirely relevant.

    • bleedgreen - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:50 PM

      Doesn’t matter how high the rail is. Actually, he would have fell FURTHER if the rail was higher. He jumped on top of the rail of his own volition to slide down it.

  5. youalldrinkhaterade - Aug 1, 2011 at 5:54 PM

    where’s all the “WOW! I can’t believe this didn’t happen in Philly” chatter???

    • cur68 - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:22 PM

      well, right there ^^^. Do pay attention.

    • JBerardi - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:28 PM

      Philly fans clearly have higher tolerances than that.

  6. b7p19 - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:03 PM

    Makes me realize how stupid some of the risks I took (take?) were (are?).

  7. raminaz - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:04 PM

    The article clearly states marijuana & alcohol both were in his system. I don’t see any propaganda.

    • frankvzappa - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:16 PM

      Marijuana doesn’t cause people to act like jackasses, alcohol does. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous and deceptive.

      • hittfamily - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM

        Ricky Williams turned away millions for pot, not booze. Both are mind altering drugs.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Aug 1, 2011 at 7:54 PM

        Ricky’s view of money and spotlight might be different than yours, but that doesn’t make him a fool.

      • JBerardi - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:32 PM

        “Ricky Williams turned away millions for pot, not booze. Both are mind altering drugs.”

        Well, it’s better for your head than the steady diet of concussions that football dishes out.

  8. nocryinginbaseball07 - Aug 1, 2011 at 6:13 PM

    When someone tries to slide down a railing at a ballpark, you kinda think he just MIGHT have had something in his system

  9. JBerardi - Aug 1, 2011 at 8:16 PM

    Someone had alcohol in their system at COORS field? How irresponsible!

  10. elliotlc - Aug 1, 2011 at 9:28 PM

    jssgriffi17, don’t use an argument for the unfortunate death in Arlington due to the low rails this guy was high up in the stadium and decided to be cool and slide down a railing not lean over or anything that a railing would help stop him from falling. He tried to slide on it! Unfortunately it was his fault and the substances in his system didn’t help at all. In my opinion Coors Field isn’t really at fault since the gentlemen wasn’t at risk until he put himself at risk trying to show off down a rail

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