Aug 17, 2011, 10:00 AM EDT
Personally speaking I think Jim Thome is a Hall of Famer. I haven’t really analyzed his case yet and won’t for a while, but I think he is. The general sentiment among writers over the past few days seems to reflect that too. Even guys who have historically been opposed to so-called “stat-compilers” and who are thus less-impressed with milestone numbers as opposed to how fearsome or clutch a player seemed to be are on the Thome train. Guys like Jon Heyman, for example.
But Joel Sherman isn’t quite so sure. His column today, while not sharply discounting Thome’s Hall of Fame case, certainly places it in second-tier status. Sherman believes that Thome is more of a Don Sutton figure who, if he is elected, will do so because he hung around a long time and was likable. Sherman does not believe, however, that Thome was ever an elite player, the sort of which people considered to be among the best in the game. Among the evidence he cites:
Fred McGriff, for example, finished with 493 homers and is roundly viewed as a clean player, yet in his two eligible years has not exceeded 21.6 percent of the Hall vote.
McGriff, also a lefty, slugging first baseman, was named to five All-Star teams and his highest finish in the MVP tally was fourth. Want to guess Thome’s results? It is five All-Star teams and a high of fourth in the MVP voting. In fact, McGriff finished in the top 10 of MVP voting six times compared to four for Thome.
Does anyone besides me have a major problem with using MVP voting results as a Hall of Fame criteria? That having the same guys who vote on those awards — baseball writers — cite those vote totals as evidence for their Hall of Fame decisions? Kind of circular, no?
This is especially true when you realize that Thome — just like Fred McGriff — was severely underrated when it came to postseason awards voting. To cite the example many have cited in the past few days, in 2002, the baseball writers voted Thome 7th in the MVP voting despite the fact that he led the league in OPS and was second in WAR. Indeed for several years Thome’s contributions were discounted as if he were some sort of bizarro Dave Kingman figure, doing little besides hitting home runs but at least doing it with a smile.
Thome was much more than that. So too was McGriff for that matter. That the writers didn’t appreciate that at the time should not count a lick to the writers who will need to assess Thome’s case in five or six years.
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