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Cubs interested in Cashman, Friedman and … Colletti?

Aug 25, 2011, 8:50 AM EDT

Los Angeles Dodgers General Manager Ned Colletti stands on the field before the MLB national league baseball game against the Arizona Diamondbacks in Los Angeles

One of these things, is not like the others, one of these things doesn’t belong. Can you tell which thing is not like the others, by the time we finish our song?

Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts is wasting no time gathering information on potential general manager candidates, talking this week to people in and around baseball about current GMs Andrew Friedman of the Tampa Bay Rays and Ned Colletti of the Los Angeles Dodgers, according to sources.

Colletti, eh?  Really?  And he appeals to the Cubs, why exactly?  Here’s one explanation:

one attraction to him, a source said, is the likelihood he would try to bring Ryne Sandberg back to the organization as the Cubs’ manager.

That would be some profound tail-wagging-dog action, would it not?  If ownership wants Ryne Sandberg back, it should (a) hire the best GM they can find; and (b) persuade the GM to hire Sandberg.  It should not sacrifice all that is valuable in GM talent in order to get a guy who simply likes Sandberg.

Not that I think Cashman or even Friedman will want the Cubs job, but boy, you gotta do better than Ned Colletti, don’t you?

  1. yankeesfanlen - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:02 AM

    Why not just make Sandberg the GM?
    And………Leave Cashman Alone!

  2. The Common Man - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:05 AM

    It’s so comforting to know that, no matter how much the world changes, long after we’re all dead, and our bones ground to dust, and the robot overlords plot to wipe out what’s left of our pathetic species, the Cubs will still suck.

  3. FC - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:07 AM

    They should try prying AA from the Jays, the man has been quietly making some interesting acquisitions in the past couple of years.

  4. Chris Fiorentino - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:13 AM

    Not that I am the biggest Colletti fan in the world, but the Dodgers did make two consecutive NLCS’s under his watch.

    • kopy - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:25 AM

      And, if my memory is vaguely correct, the Dodgers’ payroll for those years was roughly comparable to what the Cubs will likely be spending, so Colletti has some experience there. I’m not trying to knock the Yankees, but we really don’t know much about what Cashman can accomplish with more limited resources.

      • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:56 AM

        but we really don’t know much about what Cashman can accomplish with more limited resources.

        Yes, we do. He’s made tons of trades/signings that aren’t 9 figure contracts. Some have worked out, some haven’t. This myth that all he does is use a giant checkbook is belitting to the work he’s performed with the Yankees.

    • seattlej - Aug 25, 2011 at 10:19 AM

      Those teams were mostly built by Dan Evans and Logan White. Colletti had very little to do with the success of those teams, and what you’re seeing now is Colletti’s mess. He’s managed to take a talented, young core and do nothing with it. The role players that he’s signed around Kemp, Ethier, Kershaw, Billingsley, etc., have been terrible; and in his pursuit of aging veterans, he’s managed to trade away most of the upper level talent.

      Dodger fans would rejoice.

  5. paperlions - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:13 AM

    Even without the McCourt fiasco, Colletti was well on his way to devastating the Dodgers in terms of talent and on-field product. So far he has lived off of the talent accumulated by previous GMs, mostly DePodesta, who did a great job getting them on track and was dumbly dismissed. Now, that talent is either gone (traded for aging vets) or in the majors already….with very little else on the way. Combine his apparent dislike of prospects with his complete inability to properly evaluate ML talent….and I have no idea why anyone would consider hiring him…or why the Dodger have kept him around (then again, Ed Wade had a job until recently and Sabean still does as well….sometimes your director of scouting can save you from yourself….for a little while).

    • koufaxmitzvah - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:37 AM

      The man who was in charge of accumulating the Dodgers talent that led to the Baseball America #1 ranking was Dan Evans not Paul DePodesta.

      DePo did trade Dave Roberts, starting center fielder and lead-off hitter on a first place team heading to the playoffs at the trade deadline, to the Boston Red Sox for a AA outfielder and a bag of balls. (i think the balls may have made it to Albuquerque.) And, naturally, Dave Roberts stole the base that brought a World Series championship to Boston for the first time in, well, about a century. So, yeah, DePo was a great GM for Boston.

      Of course, I’m not a real baseball fan. What with my lack of WAR as serving a purpose in my so-called baseball fandom.

      • seattlej - Aug 25, 2011 at 11:06 AM

        I certainly agree that it was Dan Evans. But trading Roberts wasn’t the biggest travesty in the world. He was a nice role player for a couple of years; nothing more. Don’t you think that some of those other players on that Red Sox team might have had a little more to do with that championship?

        And by most accounts, DePodesta was an awful GM. A great assistant GM type that can certainly contribute value, but not the guy that you want running the show. From what I’ve read/heard, he could put together a great plan, but was just incapable of assembling the team and having the managerial skills to carry it out. That being said, I’d rather have a good plan and poor execution than whatever the hell Colletti’s done with the team.

      • koufaxmitzvah - Aug 25, 2011 at 4:14 PM

        DePo also traded away the starting catcher during the same trade deadline. Lots of baseball people mention that a strong team has great defense up the middle. Seeing as how the Dodgers were in 1st place at the time of these trades, the players up the middle were providing what was necessary for the team to win. And then half of those up-the-middle players were thrown out of LA.

        As for role players making a difference, you should check out the last LA World Series winning ball club. Aside from great pitching and Kirk Gibson, it’s a roster full of Who’s That and Where Did They Gos.

        Bottom line for this discussion is that DePo sucked.

  6. cemdinc - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:25 AM

    This one should be way too easy for anyone to screw up. All Ricketts needs to do is hire Pat Gillick as team president, let him hire his own G.M., sit back and watch the Cubs win. Cause that’s all Gillick has done wherever he’s gone — Toronto, Baltimore, Seattle, and Philly. Don’t overthink too much on this one, Tom.

    • nudeman - Aug 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM

      Whatever they do, whoever they hire … it won’t work
      Trust me; I’ve lived this for 50+ years

  7. dodger88 - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:26 AM

    The ycan have Colletti, ideally before he has a chance to sign Juan Rivera to a 3 year $30 million+ deal and re-sign Barajas thanks to yet another hot August within a dismal season overall.

  8. JBerardi - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:33 AM

    “one attraction to him, a source said, is the likelihood he would try to bring Ryne Sandberg back to the organization as the Cubs’ manager.”

    “Alright, we made a foolish, shortsighted decision in running Sandberg out of the organization. Is there an even dumber, more organizationally devastating move we could make to being him back?”

  9. trevorb06 - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:51 AM

    This would be the perfect opportunity for Colletti to jump off a sinking ship… wait, he’d go to the Cubs? nevermind…

    *ring ring*
    “Hey Ned, have I got the perfect opportunity for you to get away from the mess ran by that McCourt guy!”
    “Oh yeah, what’s that?”
    “Come join the Cubs and…”

  10. Paul Zummo - Aug 25, 2011 at 9:51 AM

    What, is Omar Minaya unavailable? Or maybe than can pry Ed Wade away from Houston.

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