Comments on: Fine, the Red Sox and Yankees play long games. But who plays the shortest? http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Sun, 19 May 2013 22:01:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: andyreidisfat http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-189160 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:11:31 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-189160 If people are so pissy about game times just put in a pitch clock. It wouldn’t affect the majority of pitchers as most like to work quick. And as punishment if they don’t pitch on time you take away a strike or if no strikes then u add a ball

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-189112 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:33:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-189112 what I mean by that is the BOS-NYY game is about 48 seconds per pitch, the others, in a small sample, are in the mid 30s to low 40s.

Now I understand some of this is commercial time and such, but it adds up to make a plodding view experience. I think the people here would watch the game, but casual fans are going to be turned off by waiting 4 hours to see a complete game.

Thursday nights game in Boston there were tons of empty seat by the end. looked like about 70% capacity in the 9th to me.

]]> By: jwbiii http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-189016 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:53:03 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-189016 Note that the shorter playing serieses are all inter-division or inter-league, ie. six games. Small sample size theatre, I think.

]]> By: jwbiii http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-189015 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 05:49:30 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-189015 Who drives to Fenway?

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188931 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:49:10 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188931 I think it was a Buerhle v Tim Hudson game in Oakland on fireworks night that ended before it was dark.

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188930 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:48:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188930 OK. Why don’t you know what you are going to throw to Cano before he steps into the box?

]]> By: jeffrp http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188911 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:28:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188911 Maybe it takes a little longer to decide what to throw to Robinson Cano with two runners on than it does to throw to Miguel Olivo with the bases empty. Which at bat do you want to watch?

]]> By: jeffrp http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188905 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:14:51 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188905 Ah the late 60′s, when everyone hit like todays Mariners, Giants and Padres.

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188900 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:06:21 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188900 it looks like more pitches and more time per pitch no matter how you slice it.

]]> By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188898 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:05:41 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188898 Lester had a 40 something pitch 1st inning and only gave up a run. He was over a hundred pitches by the 5th. Burnett was at 96 by the 5th. That’s just a ridonkuclous amount of pitching. When it’s all said and done guys that hit a lot of foul balls and walk a lot get you more wins. Get 2 teams stacked with those guys on it and watch the beer vendors make a killing.

Len’s right: you gotta train for that kind of viewing.

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188895 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:59:29 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188895 a little but, its time between pitches. It seems like neither team has gone over a plan for the hitters. Its like its a surprise that they are going to throw the ball again.

]]> By: clydeserra http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188893 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:56:50 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188893 it was a compliment. Teams *playing * the Phillies are low scoring teams

]]> By: addictedzone http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188891 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:52:38 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188891 Back when games weren’t as important, the Mets played a string of five games in a row in :

2:13
2:20
2:23
2:33
2:14

Oh wait, did I say not important? Those were the length of the games for the ’69 World Series.

]]> By: philsgamer http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188890 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:50:49 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188890 Don’t forget Lee who stands there on the rubber waiting for you to get in the batter’s box.

]]> By: jeffrp http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188888 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:45:28 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188888 Exactly. It’s about the number of pitches these teams see. Here are last night’s game times with the number of pitches:

TEAMS #P Time
NYY/Bos 381 4:21
KCR/Det 337 3:17
Oak/Cle 296 3:06
TBR/Tex 285 3:03
Phi/Cin 278 3:03
Tor/Bal 302 3:01
Fla/NYM 278 3:01
LAD/Pit 293 3:00
StL/Mil 272 2:57
Was/Atl 267 2:48
LAA/Sea 281 2:42

]]> By: Louie Schuth http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188887 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:40:30 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188887 This is clearly a knock on Ryan Howard.

]]> By: proudlycanadian http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188884 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:38:08 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188884 Buerhle and Halladay both work quickly, thus their teams tend to have shorter games on average.

]]> By: phillyphever http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188880 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:34:38 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188880 Only winners I see in long games is the beer venders. Otherwise, those long games are a pain in the arse.

]]> By: Mr. Jason "El Bravo" Heyward http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188875 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:28:54 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188875 “Overall, the White Sox play in the shortest games regardless of opponent, with an average of 2:43. Adam Dunn strikes out quickly, you see.” Funny stuff! The prevailing reason is undoubtedly that almost all of their SPs are very quick working guys. No one more so than Buerhle.

]]> By: ditto65 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188873 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:19:32 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188873 Who wants to watch teams rush through a game. It’s like they are just pitching and swinging to get some unpleasant task over with.

]]> By: ditto65 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188872 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:17:38 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188872 “most of the short game teams”

]]> By: sportsdrenched.com http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188869 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:14:45 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188869 The ChiSox also have Mark Buerhle who I works fast that any pitcher I’ve seen.

]]> By: yankeesfanlen http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188867 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:12:43 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188867 Plus, when a 30 minute drive to the Stadium (or Fenway) takes 2 hours, you’re used to waiting.

]]> By: cur68 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188863 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:08:22 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188863 To be fair you have to say that the Sox and Yankees stock some real patient hitters. Some of the most patient I’ve ever seen. Those guys foul off a lot of pitches, take a lot of balls, and drag out an inning by wearing down the pitcher’s arm as a result. The exact opposite of Adam Dunn, IOW. This is my opinion of why they win so much: excellent plate discipline. Throw in mound visits and spy vs spy managerial strategizing and you have the 4 hour 9 inning game.

Those teams playing short games do not enjoy as much success in weaker divisions (Phillies notwithstanding: you don’t wear out cyborgs like Halladay, Lee & Hamels; you get a sapper in to blow them up on the mound maybe, but you don’t have any hope of wearing them down).

]]> By: b7p19 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188862 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:08:14 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188862 Haha. Oh boy, here we go.

]]> By: Joe http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/fine-the-red-sox-and-yankees-play-long-games-but-who-plays-the-shortest/comment-page-1/#comment-188858 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:03:00 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=83314#comment-188858 Craig called the Phillies a low-scoring team…what a hater!!

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