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	<title>Comments on: Kimbrel Unit malfunctions, Cards beat Braves in 10</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/10/kimbrel-unit-malfunctions-cards-beat-braves-in-10/comment-page-1/#comment-192017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not at all a Phillies fan, but nice try.  Congratulations, you trolled the thread.  Now go away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not at all a Phillies fan, but nice try.  Congratulations, you trolled the thread.  Now go away.</p>
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		<title>By: skippyx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[skippyx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leading the league in saves is close to meaningless in this case.  He is on a team that does not give up much and does not score much.  Add in the fact that none of Atlanta&#039;s starters are workhorses and he gets many chances.

Here is a look at saves vs. chances.
Valverde is 42 of 42 or 1.00 (perfect)
Papelbon is 29 of 30 or .967
Axford is 41 of 43 or .953
Madson is 29 of 31 or .935
Hanrahan is 36 of 39 or .923
Street is 29 of 32 or .906
Putz is 38 of 42 or .905
Bailey is 19 of 21 or .905
Bell is 36 of 40 or .900
Perez is 32 of 36 or .889
Rivera is  39 of 44 or .886
Kimbrel is 43 of 49 or .877
Wilson is 35 of 40 or .875
Storen is 34 of 39 or .872
League is 34 of 39 or .872
Feliz is 26 of 32 or .813
Walden is 29 or 38 or .763
Capps is 15 of 23 or .652

Atlanta has the 2nd least effective closer of all playoff teams.
Only the Rangers/Angels closer will be worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leading the league in saves is close to meaningless in this case.  He is on a team that does not give up much and does not score much.  Add in the fact that none of Atlanta&#8217;s starters are workhorses and he gets many chances.</p>
<p>Here is a look at saves vs. chances.<br />
Valverde is 42 of 42 or 1.00 (perfect)<br />
Papelbon is 29 of 30 or .967<br />
Axford is 41 of 43 or .953<br />
Madson is 29 of 31 or .935<br />
Hanrahan is 36 of 39 or .923<br />
Street is 29 of 32 or .906<br />
Putz is 38 of 42 or .905<br />
Bailey is 19 of 21 or .905<br />
Bell is 36 of 40 or .900<br />
Perez is 32 of 36 or .889<br />
Rivera is  39 of 44 or .886<br />
Kimbrel is 43 of 49 or .877<br />
Wilson is 35 of 40 or .875<br />
Storen is 34 of 39 or .872<br />
League is 34 of 39 or .872<br />
Feliz is 26 of 32 or .813<br />
Walden is 29 or 38 or .763<br />
Capps is 15 of 23 or .652</p>
<p>Atlanta has the 2nd least effective closer of all playoff teams.<br />
Only the Rangers/Angels closer will be worse.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/10/kimbrel-unit-malfunctions-cards-beat-braves-in-10/comment-page-1/#comment-191985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, Kevin, not seriously.  

I enjoy looking at the lighter side of life and, as they say in the UK, taking the piss out of people by getting them wound up.

However, Phillies fans too danm serious. You have the best team in the game, and have had for a few years. Before long it will all fade away. Enjoy it while you can and lighten up. Stop taking everything so personally. You make yourselves targets with you attitudes. 

Lighten up, enjoy the ride, and learn how to have fun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Kevin, not seriously.  </p>
<p>I enjoy looking at the lighter side of life and, as they say in the UK, taking the piss out of people by getting them wound up.</p>
<p>However, Phillies fans too danm serious. You have the best team in the game, and have had for a few years. Before long it will all fade away. Enjoy it while you can and lighten up. Stop taking everything so personally. You make yourselves targets with you attitudes. </p>
<p>Lighten up, enjoy the ride, and learn how to have fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, seriously?  Even the most bitter Philly haters would have to have them the odds-on favorites in the NL next year.  St. Louis isn&#039;t going anywhere so long as TLR is allowed to run talented players out of town.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, seriously?  Even the most bitter Philly haters would have to have them the odds-on favorites in the NL next year.  St. Louis isn&#8217;t going anywhere so long as TLR is allowed to run talented players out of town.</p>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purnellmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey, your names prionogenic - you WOULD understand the first paragraph .. .hehe. Actually I got the general drift  - it was just clumsy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, your names prionogenic &#8211; you WOULD understand the first paragraph .. .hehe. Actually I got the general drift  &#8211; it was just clumsy.</p>
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		<title>By: mojosmagic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojosmagic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cow name one 1st year reliever who has pitched as much as Kimbrel. Can&#039;t do it. I didn&#039;t say the Braves were trying to injure him I said he was being over used and abused because the Braves are in a win at any cost mode. Over use of young pitchers makes arm problems more likely.  That is just a fact!!! Either you can&#039;t read or you get angry because you know it is true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cow name one 1st year reliever who has pitched as much as Kimbrel. Can&#8217;t do it. I didn&#8217;t say the Braves were trying to injure him I said he was being over used and abused because the Braves are in a win at any cost mode. Over use of young pitchers makes arm problems more likely.  That is just a fact!!! Either you can&#8217;t read or you get angry because you know it is true.</p>
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		<title>By: dailyrev</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dailyrev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have to keep reminding yourself that this is a member of the Dora the Explorer club. I was thinking the same thing watching another ROY-Cy candidate beating The Freak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to keep reminding yourself that this is a member of the Dora the Explorer club. I was thinking the same thing watching another ROY-Cy candidate beating The Freak.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kimbrel against StL this year:

2.1 IP, 6 H, 3 BB, 2 K, 4 ER, Opp BA .500

Small sample size, yeah, but not the first time they got to him this year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimbrel against StL this year:</p>
<p>2.1 IP, 6 H, 3 BB, 2 K, 4 ER, Opp BA .500</p>
<p>Small sample size, yeah, but not the first time they got to him this year.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 16:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand all of the hatred you have for the Cardinals, Chris. After all, there are four other teams in your division that will be beating the crap out of the Phillies next year while the Cardinals are in the playoffs and we&#039;re making fun of you, so no reason to get the fans of those teams riled up.


&quot;He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand all of the hatred you have for the Cardinals, Chris. After all, there are four other teams in your division that will be beating the crap out of the Phillies next year while the Cardinals are in the playoffs and we&#8217;re making fun of you, so no reason to get the fans of those teams riled up.</p>
<p>&#8220;He that troubleth his own house shall inherit the wind: and the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco (FC)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francisco (FC)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, I&#039;m trying really hard to write up something fun about this post. There seems to be plenty of material, but I already used up my WARRANTY VOID joke a few days ago and can&#039;t seem to frame the Pujols shtick in the right way. My mind is drawing a blank. That&#039;s OK, something will come up. It always does.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I&#8217;m trying really hard to write up something fun about this post. There seems to be plenty of material, but I already used up my WARRANTY VOID joke a few days ago and can&#8217;t seem to frame the Pujols shtick in the right way. My mind is drawing a blank. That&#8217;s OK, something will come up. It always does.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He probably should have said &quot;since June 14th&quot; but I think he let his emotions get the best of him.  Give him a break...that was a pretty devastating loss last night and he&#039;s working on a Saturday for crying out loud!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably should have said &#8220;since June 14th&#8221; but I think he let his emotions get the best of him.  Give him a break&#8230;that was a pretty devastating loss last night and he&#8217;s working on a Saturday for crying out loud!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: bensdad00</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bensdad00]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[perhaps the most automatic thing in baseball this year?

a half dozen blown saves does not automatic make, especially when such luminaries as Joel Hanrahan and John Axford have less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perhaps the most automatic thing in baseball this year?</p>
<p>a half dozen blown saves does not automatic make, especially when such luminaries as Joel Hanrahan and John Axford have less.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo1949</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimbo1949]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fredi must be getting advice from Torre on how to handle the bullpen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredi must be getting advice from Torre on how to handle the bullpen.</p>
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		<title>By: cowartsh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cowartsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah mojo I am sure its the braves plan to injure two of the best young relief pitchers in the game. That would make so much sense for their future. Just sit there and keep spewing the same crap]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah mojo I am sure its the braves plan to injure two of the best young relief pitchers in the game. That would make so much sense for their future. Just sit there and keep spewing the same crap</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Fiorentino</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Fiorentino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 14:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Braves will be fine because the team chasing them, the Cardinals, aren&#039;t all that good while the Braves still have enough solid pitching.  The Red Sox, as I have been saying for about a month now, are in serious trouble.  They better win a game and win one fast, or it may be lights out for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Braves will be fine because the team chasing them, the Cardinals, aren&#8217;t all that good while the Braves still have enough solid pitching.  The Red Sox, as I have been saying for about a month now, are in serious trouble.  They better win a game and win one fast, or it may be lights out for them.</p>
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		<title>By: mojosmagic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojosmagic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kimbrel has appeared in a ton of games and thrown an inordinate amount of innings for a rookie relief pitcher. Kimbrell is earning about $400,000 per year and the way the Braves are using both him and Vetters neither will last long before needing surgery. It is just wrong how over used these two talented young pitchers are. Most teams monitor the amount of innings their young pitchers throw and show a degree of caring about their futures. It looks to me like the Braves plan on abusing these guys before they can earn big pay days then toss them aside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimbrel has appeared in a ton of games and thrown an inordinate amount of innings for a rookie relief pitcher. Kimbrell is earning about $400,000 per year and the way the Braves are using both him and Vetters neither will last long before needing surgery. It is just wrong how over used these two talented young pitchers are. Most teams monitor the amount of innings their young pitchers throw and show a degree of caring about their futures. It looks to me like the Braves plan on abusing these guys before they can earn big pay days then toss them aside.</p>
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		<title>By: prionogenic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prionogenic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craig is making the joke that Kimbrel has been almost automatic this year converting saves, like a cybernetic machine]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig is making the joke that Kimbrel has been almost automatic this year converting saves, like a cybernetic machine</p>
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		<title>By: prionogenic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[prionogenic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2007 Phils came back from 7 down in 17 games. Although that included a 4 game sweep at Citizens Bank in the last week or so of the season]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2007 Phils came back from 7 down in 17 games. Although that included a 4 game sweep at Citizens Bank in the last week or so of the season</p>
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		<title>By: eshine76</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eshine76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Insurmountable?  I&#039;m a Mets fan and recent history tells us that no lead is safe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insurmountable?  I&#8217;m a Mets fan and recent history tells us that no lead is safe.</p>
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		<title>By: purnellmeagrejr</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[purnellmeagrejr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the first paragraph means something to somebody but I couldn&#039;t get through it. Sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the first paragraph means something to somebody but I couldn&#8217;t get through it. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: joshftw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joshftw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 12:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have they tried turning him off and on again?  Are they sure he&#039;s plugged in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have they tried turning him off and on again?  Are they sure he&#8217;s plugged in?</p>
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