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Charlie Manuel chewed out the Phillies last night

Sep 14, 2011, 11:00 AM EDT

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It probably doesn’t matter. Late season road trip against the worst team in baseball.  Nothing to truly play for at the moment other than good health. The Phillies can be forgiven for dropping a couple of games against the Astros.  Charlie Manuel isn’t all that willing to let it slide, however. Here’s Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com:

Manuel had strong words for his team during a clubhouse meeting after it played another sloppy game in a 5-2 loss (see game breakdown) to the lowly Houston Astros on Tuesday night. “We had a little talk,” Manuel admitted. “Not a big talk.” The message: “Just be more alert and play the game how we can,” he said.

Manuel was soft-selling the meeting. Word from the clubhouse was he rattled some cages pretty soundly.

I sure hope he didn’t criticize Ryan Howard. Dear Lord, the Phillies fans would turn on him in the drop of a hat!

  1. cur68 - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM

    When Cholly Fuqua Manuel, Jr. gets mad, is he more or less understandable? Well whatever. I doubt he could hand out more criticism than some of the fans of his team does on this very site.

    • CJ - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:55 AM

      More. Have you ever heard his press conferences and interviews? They’re impossible to understand. The madder a coherent person gets, the more incoherent they become. I can only assume the opposite holds true as well.

  2. frenchysplatediscipline - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:06 AM

    As a Braves fan this saddens me…. Just when I thought they might be getting soft and complacent before the tournament starts, and Cholly has to go and get ‘em all fired up.

    • Francisco (FC) - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:12 AM

      It’s a yearly thing… Get swept by the Astros, get chewed out, win 17 of the last 20 or so. This year Manual decided to tear them a new one before the sweep.

      • frenchysplatediscipline - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:15 AM

        It’s just the Astros I guess. It’s like Atlanta’s inexplicable nemesis – the powerful Nats!

      • kellyb9 - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:26 AM

        Yeah – it seems to be a yearly thing, and it usually works. They really seem to play to their opponents sometimes… they have trouble with teams like the Nats and the Astros and beat up on good teams.

      • frenchysplatediscipline - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:30 AM

        Actually that probably wasn’t fair for me to take a swipe at the Nats – they have some young talent and I think they could be real contenders in a year or 2. That being said – they have been a thorn in the Braves side for the last few years with teams that were far less talented.

      • Francisco (FC) - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:23 PM

        That being said – they have been a thorn in the Braves side for the last few years with teams that were far less talented.

        Imagine how much more thorny they’re going to get when the new blood is inserted into that Roster :D

      • natstowngreg - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:35 PM

        No problem frenchy, you are correct. Though in reality, it’s been more like the Nats playing .500 vs. the Braves. But when you’re rooting for a team that’s not very good, you take what you can get.

        [BTW, the Nats beat the Astros 2 of 3 last weekend.]

        The Nats have tied their win total from 2010, so every win from now on represents improvement, and further hope for contention in the next couple of years. Meanwhile, the Astros are leading the #1 Draft Pick race by 8.5 games over the Orioles and Twins, and can look forward to such high picks the next few years.

      • frenchysplatediscipline - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM

        natstowngreg – you are right, its about .500 it just seems worse because it is a team the Braves were “supposed” to beat – whatever that means. But improved they absolutely are. I am 100% on board with that team being a playoff contender soon – and I don’t say that because of Straus and Harper either. Neither has proved anything yet – (with Straus it’s proving he can stay healthy). But with talented youngsters like Morse, Espinosa, Lannan, Storen (and many others), a good veteran leader in Zim, and a continual influx of young raw talent (Milone and Peacock), they are going to be good and stay good.

        I personally think Rizzo is an *ss, but the guy has made good decisions for their future,

  3. Jonny 5 - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:33 AM

    This is hardly the time to become complacent, and I’m glad Charlie decided to nip it in the bud.

  4. joshftw - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:34 AM

    Because it’s just not good enough for the Phillies to have the best record. They must crush their enemies, see them driven before them, and hear the lamentations of their women!

    • cur68 - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:45 AM

      You forgot to add “by Crom!”.

    • natstowngreg - Sep 14, 2011 at 3:17 PM

      They also must crush their enemies, etc., in the playoffs.

  5. dailyrev - Sep 14, 2011 at 11:55 AM

    Seems like a fairly natural let-down after a long and hyper-competitive series in Milwaukee. And of course there’s a long book on every hitter in Beerville, but the baby ‘Stros are, as Gibson pointed out after the Snakes lost to them, a bunch of kids playing for their careers, their personal futures. Some are playing just to be on the roster next spring. It’s a different kind of urgency than trying to nail down a div title, but it’s intense all right.

  6. sabathiawouldbegoodattheeighthtoo - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:32 PM

    He should just throw batteries at them. That is how you support your team in Filly.

    • mikey1956 - Sep 14, 2011 at 1:11 PM

      I always love the lazy 70’s and 80’s references to Santa and batteries when stereotyping “Filly” fans

      • philsgamer - Sep 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM

        The battery throwing reference is from the 90’s, but still tired and lazy nonetheless.

      • SmackSaw - Sep 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM

        Vomiting on them is how it’s done nowadays.

  7. hank10 - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    They always have problems against the Astros. Or maybe they decided to give a little something in return to Ed Wade for all the support he has given the Fightin’s over the years.

    • CJ - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM

      Probably the latter, but it won’t be enough to save his job. It’s ok though, he can come back and work for the Phils, it feels like he’s been on the payroll the whole time, so it’ll be almost like he never left.

  8. everybodyhitswoohoo - Sep 14, 2011 at 12:44 PM

    #firstplaceproblems

  9. schmedley69 - Sep 14, 2011 at 9:58 PM

    I have tickets to Thursday night’s game and was hoping to see the division clincher, but thanks to those two wretched performances against the Astros, that won’t happen now. I hope Charlie let them have it. They totally screwed me over.

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