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Russell Martin hates the Red Sox

Sep 22, 2011, 8:12 PM EDT

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The funny thing is that if Boston had offered him an extra $1 million, he’d likely be playing for the Red Sox right now.

Martin, who chose instead to try to resurrect his career with the Yankees last winter, told ESPN New York’s Andrew Marchand, “I hate the Red Sox.”

“Anything to get the Red Sox out would be awesome for me,” he said one day before the teams square off in a three-game series at Yankee Stadium.

Martin couldn’t isolate exactly why he feels as he does.

“I guess it just comes with the territory,” Martin said. “When you wear the pinstripes, you just kind of learn to be that way.”

Maybe.  But if Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera and CC Sabathia hate the Red Sox, they sure have done a good job of covering it up.  Mostly it seems like the best players on both teams have great respect for the best on the other, perhaps with some exceptions pertaining to Alex Rodriguez, Josh Beckett and Joba Chamberlain.

The Red Sox and Yankees were the finalists for Martin’s services last winter after he was let go by the Dodgers.  The Red Sox opted to stick with Jarrod Saltalamacchia after Martin took the Yankees’ $2.5 million offer, and it’s worked out quite well for both teams.  Red Sox catchers are fourth in the AL with a .743 OPS this year, while Yankees catchers are eighth at .716.  Martin himself is hitting .236/.323/.404 in 406 at-bats.

  1. deathmonkey41 - Sep 22, 2011 at 8:40 PM

    I hate the #$%##ing Red Sox too. I can’t blame him.

  2. urteamsux52 - Sep 22, 2011 at 8:41 PM


    • drmonkeyarmy - Sep 22, 2011 at 8:44 PM

      It’s hard to read stuff in all caps. Just gazing at it is giving me a headache.

      • cur68 - Sep 22, 2011 at 9:13 PM

        Yeah, u r smarter than me ‘army. I tried to read that. Now I have a headache.

    • Ralph - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:07 PM

      Can we have some sort if IQ test you have to pass before you’re allowed to comment? We don’t have to make it that difficult, maybe just if you can successfully add 3 and 3?

      • presidentmiraflores - Sep 22, 2011 at 11:20 PM

        Like an IQaptcha

      • 4d3fect - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:09 AM

        hasn’t worked for most of the other posters here…..

      • bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:15 AM

        33, right?

      • lawrinson20 - Sep 23, 2011 at 11:00 AM

        Give him a break. You get excited when you’re 11 years old and have your first beer.

    • Glenn - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:17 PM

      I had no idea that Allen Ginsberg, ee cummings, Eminem, and my retarded brother had a kid together!

    • lif3form - Sep 23, 2011 at 9:20 AM

      Punctuation. It’s a good thing.

    • nokoolaidcowboy - Sep 23, 2011 at 11:26 AM

      Another example of the lack of education in the great state of Florida. lol

  3. bigleagues - Sep 22, 2011 at 8:45 PM

    Martin made a good choice. And if he ended up with the Red Sox and said he hated the Yankees – most of us would realize how fake, phony and fraudulent that statement would be coming from a guy who has yet to be in the post-season trenches.

  4. dailyrev - Sep 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM

    He’s merely looking to liven up the pre-AB conversations at the plate. A little spice for the chatter, rather than the same old nursing home talk from the Sawx (“oh my back’s killin’ me” or “my bursitis is actin’ up again…”).

    • bigleagues - Sep 22, 2011 at 11:07 PM

      Ha! Excellent come back. Even still . . .

      Rus-sell needs muz-zle!

      • bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 9:04 AM

        /\ /\ /\ for the uninitiated, the above comment is meant to parody the worst, most overly dramatic play-by-play announcer in all of sports, John Sterling.

        I warn you, the following is not for the faint at heart – or anyone who values a play-by-play announcer who makes the call about the play on the field, rather than drawing attention to himself.

      • bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 9:05 AM

  5. cup0pizza - Sep 22, 2011 at 9:52 PM

    Martin’s a moron. Whatever.

  6. tashkalucy - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:13 PM

    I don’t know what is going on with the yuppies in the sports media.

    To encapsulate a catchers value to a team by quoting his OPS.

    A catchers responsibility to a team:

    1a. Call a game

    1b. Handle all pitchers on a pitching staff (usually around 20-25 each year).

    1c. As the only player on the field that looks AT his teammates, assure that players are positioned properly for the way the batter is being pitched to on all pitchers.

    2. Defense – blocking pitchers, handling bunts, blocking the plate, throwing out baserunners.

    3. Batting – any hitting is a bonus. The items above influence a games and a season far more then how a catcher bats, or for that matter, far more then ANY position player contributes to a team.

    • Ari Collins - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:21 PM

      So anyone who thinks offense matters too is a yuppie?

      • tashkalucy - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:51 PM

        Anyone that thinks a catchers value is measured by how he hits, simply doesn’t know baseball.

        And yuppies never have been good at comprehending things unless it’s how they can roll over others to make money. Can’t even comprehend a simple post.

      • kellyb9 - Sep 23, 2011 at 9:18 AM

        Maybe we should designate a hitter for him too… since you know… nobody wants to see a catcher hit.

  7. Ari Collins - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:16 PM

    It’s funny how our memories work. I’m still thinking that Martin is having an amazing season, since he started out so well. It’s September, brain! Get with the picture!

  8. Glenn - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM

    I think you peaked 1 1/2 hours ago – either that or you are a genius.

  9. skipjutze - Sep 22, 2011 at 10:29 PM

    Martin couldn’t isolate exactly why he feels as he does…

    Attaboy genius. Not the smartest Catcher I’ve ever seen.

  10. tashkalucy - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:07 AM

    Easy for you to say……

    • pisano - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM

      What in God’s name is going on here?

    • bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:25 AM

      I do believe we are exploring abstract conversational English.

  11. aceshigh11 - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:27 AM

    I need to ask seriously:

    What’s with the widespread hatred for the Red Sox?

    The Red Sox are one of the most popular teams in the country, yet there are only a handful of Sox fans on this board.

    In contrast, there are clearly a lot of Yankee and Phillies fans here.

    Now, Yankee hatred, I sort of get…a lot of it, frankly, is jealousy of their success, and a (misguided) belief that they buy all their championships…

    …but the disdain for the Sox seems to be uniquely intense here among all teams, and I can’t pin down the cause of it. Anyone want to offer an opinion?

    • bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM

      My unscientific theory is this . . . the sports media competition in Boston is as intense as it gets. There is a self-sustaining eco-system that has emerged in recent years. And it starts with the two sports talk stations that dominate the market. Sports radio gets more listeners than any other format in the Boston metro area. The two highest rated radio stations in the 18-54 demo are the two sports talk stations.

      WEEI-FM & WBZ-FM (Sports Hub) are largely staffed by and columnists/beat writers which also cross-pollinate with the regional cable sports networks – NESN (Red Sox/Bruins) and FSN-NE (Celtics).
      In fact, WEEI’s morning show, Dennis and Callahan, is now simulcast (a la Francessa on YES) on NESN and soon WBZ’s Felger and Massaroti (afternoon drive) will be simulcast on FSN-NE.

      Each of those media properties are constantly driving traffic to their websites by doing their own reporting, features, contests, boxscores, etc . . . Michael Felger used to be a Herald columnist, became a full-time host at FSN-NE, and joined Massaroti as morning show host at WBZ last year. Massaroti is a columnist for who used to sit in on several WEEI shows (he has an incredibly annoying voice, btw).

      Anyway, all of that is to say that Boston sports media is somewhat incestuous with all the constant cross-promotion that is designed to keep people in the Boston sports media eco-system 24 hours a day.

      The drawback to that is an overload of Boston-centric reporting and commentary – and the comment sections of those media properties do not offer a whole lot of dissent – which is why I broke myself away and somehow landed here in the hallowed digi-paradise known as HBT.

    • protectthishouse54 - Sep 23, 2011 at 9:58 AM

      That’s a good question. My educated guess (or really just a guess) would be that leading up to the Sox World Series win in 2004, there was so much love for the Sox that the pendulum would eventually swing. They were America’s underdog with every non Yankee fan rooting for the curse to be broken. Basically, the bandwagon was overflowing. Then, they start to go after the best players in the game. At least this is how people perceive it. They bag Gonzalez and Crawford in the offseason, and boom – you’ve got a nice little mini Heat effect going on there. Fans of other teams love to do that. They love to see the favorite fail. As for why there aren’t more RS fans on this blog, I have no idea.

      • bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:11 PM

        Ya know – that’s an interesting point regarding a possible (and likely) perception shift outside of Boston towards the team and fan base after this past Winter.

        I suspect that the average fan views the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, Braves, Rangers and Phillies with a certain amount of contempt – not comprehending that those teams are playing completely within the rules, taking full advantage of the market and fanbase they have.

        And the way the politics of economics work in baseball in recent years is exactly what CEO Selig likes – because it has allowed them to leverage the successes in the Top 10 MLB markets to land better TV and sponsorships deals – while promoting the underdog stories in Tampa and Milwaukee as how the current system can work for everyone (even though that’s not entirely true).

  12. cur68 - Sep 23, 2011 at 1:19 AM

    Urk. Now the headache is worse. Dang, man, go to school or shut the ef-up.

  13. cur68 - Sep 23, 2011 at 1:21 AM

    He just won’t stop…please, someone, anyone, for the love of dog, make him stop.

  14. rexryanisablowhard - Sep 23, 2011 at 5:28 AM

    Welcome to the club Russell!

  15. bigleagues - Sep 23, 2011 at 8:18 AM

    One clear inference that can be drawn from reading through the Comments of this post . . . there are a large number of Yankees fans who lurk, don’t comment and like to use the thumbs feature.

  16. bobwsc - Sep 23, 2011 at 10:52 AM

    are you sure that challenge is confined to just your brother?

  17. mj888 - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:10 PM

    Too bad many more of the Yankees do not feel the same way as Martin does. I have always felt that the Red Sox have intimidated the Yankees on the field. And the Yankees, both the players and management, seems to allow it to happen year after year. How many time has Beckett hit a Yankee? I think if someone looked it up, it happens every start he has vs the Yankees, he has hit someone. Please don’t tell me the BS that Beckett has control issues because if he does have control issues then he should’ve hit just as many Royals or Mariners as he has hit Yankees. FOR ONCE, I would like the Yankees to hit a Red Sox player first so that the umps can issue warnings and take away the ability for the Sox pitchers to pitch inside.

  18. yournuts - Sep 23, 2011 at 12:48 PM

    Big deal, I hate the Red Sox too! I would love to see them collapse!

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