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	<title>Comments on: Umpire ejected Russell Martin for making a joke last night</title>
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		<title>By: atworkident</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atworkident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol... no worries bigleagues. 

i&#039;m with you trying to drop some lbs now before thanksgiving hits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol&#8230; no worries bigleagues. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m with you trying to drop some lbs now before thanksgiving hits.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazingly I completely agree with hittfamily&#039;s last point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazingly I completely agree with hittfamily&#8217;s last point.</p>
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		<title>By: lanflfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lanflfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably inappropriate by Martin but umpires need more accountability.  Their lack of professionalism at times is well documented and extremely frustrating from a fan&#039;s point of view.  If they are unwilling to accept more accountability and criticism from MLB then perhaps MLB needs to find new umpires.  I don&#039;t see why MLB must negotiate with the umpire association, simply end the relationship and seek other officials.  We don&#039;t pay good money to see umps take center stage.  Most do their job, and better, without theatrics and &quot;look at me&quot; moments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably inappropriate by Martin but umpires need more accountability.  Their lack of professionalism at times is well documented and extremely frustrating from a fan&#8217;s point of view.  If they are unwilling to accept more accountability and criticism from MLB then perhaps MLB needs to find new umpires.  I don&#8217;t see why MLB must negotiate with the umpire association, simply end the relationship and seek other officials.  We don&#8217;t pay good money to see umps take center stage.  Most do their job, and better, without theatrics and &#8220;look at me&#8221; moments.</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rule 8.04
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&quot;The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly.&quot;

The way I read that, throwing it around the horn should be illegal.  Why do they not enforce this rule either?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule 8.04<br />
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&#8220;The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly.&#8221;</p>
<p>The way I read that, throwing it around the horn should be illegal.  Why do they not enforce this rule either?</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[atworkindent - see below]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>atworkindent &#8211; see below</p>
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		<title>By: drunkenhooliganism</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drunkenhooliganism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe he threw Martin out because his joke sucked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he threw Martin out because his joke sucked.</p>
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		<title>By: atworkident</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199213</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atworkident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fat people aren&#039;t real people and therefore their opinions don&#039;t matter. Clearly being fat makes him sensitive to people making jokes. 

We should all strive to be as chiseled as bigleagues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat people aren&#8217;t real people and therefore their opinions don&#8217;t matter. Clearly being fat makes him sensitive to people making jokes. </p>
<p>We should all strive to be as chiseled as bigleagues.</p>
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		<title>By: marshmallowsnake</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marshmallowsnake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ejecting any Yankee player is never overkill ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ejecting any Yankee player is never overkill <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: atworkident</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199209</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[atworkident]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night Ortiz complained about the strike zone for a good 5 minutes and wasn&#039;t kicked out. He most certainly should ahve been and said more than a little joke about the zone.

Talk about showing up the umpire... someone should go back and review that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night Ortiz complained about the strike zone for a good 5 minutes and wasn&#8217;t kicked out. He most certainly should ahve been and said more than a little joke about the zone.</p>
<p>Talk about showing up the umpire&#8230; someone should go back and review that.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwicricket</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwicricket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199194</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russell&#039;s comment seemed to elude to the physical condition of Schrieber. I am more than well aware of the undershirt chest protector, and it is clear from the photo above that even if he took the chest protector off, he has extra padding.

Incidentally, I&#039;m 35 lbs over weight - so the pot is calling the kettle black.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell&#8217;s comment seemed to elude to the physical condition of Schrieber. I am more than well aware of the undershirt chest protector, and it is clear from the photo above that even if he took the chest protector off, he has extra padding.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;m 35 lbs over weight &#8211; so the pot is calling the kettle black.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently umpires aren&#039;t fans of the rule book either.  For years the rule book defined the strike zone and umpires thumbed their noses at it, defining personal strike zones that were lower, shorter, and wider than the rule book states.  They even publicly bitched about attempts to get them to call the official strike zone.

Also against the rules, impeding a runner&#039;s path without possession of the ball...when was the last time a runner was called safe because the catcher blocked the runner&#039;s access without the ball?  The rule book is even specific about the fact that the catcher is not allowed to block the plate until he has the ball.

Is it worse to be unfamiliar with the rules (like most fans) or to be familiar with them and still refuse to enforce them (like umpires)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently umpires aren&#8217;t fans of the rule book either.  For years the rule book defined the strike zone and umpires thumbed their noses at it, defining personal strike zones that were lower, shorter, and wider than the rule book states.  They even publicly bitched about attempts to get them to call the official strike zone.</p>
<p>Also against the rules, impeding a runner&#8217;s path without possession of the ball&#8230;when was the last time a runner was called safe because the catcher blocked the runner&#8217;s access without the ball?  The rule book is even specific about the fact that the catcher is not allowed to block the plate until he has the ball.</p>
<p>Is it worse to be unfamiliar with the rules (like most fans) or to be familiar with them and still refuse to enforce them (like umpires)?</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Umpires are allowed to speak after the game.  Ask Jim Joyce.  I have one side of the story, and until I hear the other side of the story, my stance is the only one that can be taken.  You are taking the umps side for no reason, none.  You have nothing to base your stance on other than; umpires never make mistakes, and that is a stance I will not take, because I know it to be untrue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umpires are allowed to speak after the game.  Ask Jim Joyce.  I have one side of the story, and until I hear the other side of the story, my stance is the only one that can be taken.  You are taking the umps side for no reason, none.  You have nothing to base your stance on other than; umpires never make mistakes, and that is a stance I will not take, because I know it to be untrue.</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199181</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was no visible warning.  Whispering in ones ear is not a visible warning.  I hope you never serve on a jury, because sometimes the defendant is innocent, even when an authority says he isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no visible warning.  Whispering in ones ear is not a visible warning.  I hope you never serve on a jury, because sometimes the defendant is innocent, even when an authority says he isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: cur68</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cur68]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If, and only if, the robot could be counted on not to turn into a chinless lard bucket with an ego the size of his ass, then I will condone robots. Also, each robot has to have his own called strike/ball,walk/strike out move. I love a good strike out move.

No one pays to watch the umpires, we&#039;ve said it over and over. They add nothing to the game besides controversy. I say try it for a series with robots. I bet the catcher stays in the whole game. 

Alternatively, you can put the pitch track up on the jumbo-tron and mike the umps. This way there is transparency and they get some of that attention they crave, just like the players. Now, like the players, their every move, mistake, good call &amp; bad call are part of the viewing experience. When Martin gets tossed we&#039;d have known exactly what he said to irritate Schrieber so. Since the umps play calling is part of the game the microphone is as necessary as a camera on the baselines for viewing experience. Lets try that first, then, if lard ass there can&#039;t get in line and let the players play ball in a fair manner, we&#039;ll all know why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If, and only if, the robot could be counted on not to turn into a chinless lard bucket with an ego the size of his ass, then I will condone robots. Also, each robot has to have his own called strike/ball,walk/strike out move. I love a good strike out move.</p>
<p>No one pays to watch the umpires, we&#8217;ve said it over and over. They add nothing to the game besides controversy. I say try it for a series with robots. I bet the catcher stays in the whole game. </p>
<p>Alternatively, you can put the pitch track up on the jumbo-tron and mike the umps. This way there is transparency and they get some of that attention they crave, just like the players. Now, like the players, their every move, mistake, good call &amp; bad call are part of the viewing experience. When Martin gets tossed we&#8217;d have known exactly what he said to irritate Schrieber so. Since the umps play calling is part of the game the microphone is as necessary as a camera on the baselines for viewing experience. Lets try that first, then, if lard ass there can&#8217;t get in line and let the players play ball in a fair manner, we&#8217;ll all know why.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never saw that one. Is it on YouTube?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never saw that one. Is it on YouTube?</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you know for a fact that didn&#039;t actually happen? That the umpire didn&#039;t give him a warning. What are basing this piece of evidence on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you know for a fact that didn&#8217;t actually happen? That the umpire didn&#8217;t give him a warning. What are basing this piece of evidence on?</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, how do you know that didn&#039;t happen? Because you didn&#039;t want it to?  

I hope to hell you never serve on a jury. The facts won&#039;t matter, just what you want to believe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, how do you know that didn&#8217;t happen? Because you didn&#8217;t want it to?  </p>
<p>I hope to hell you never serve on a jury. The facts won&#8217;t matter, just what you want to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That doesn&#039;t even make sense, as it has nothing to do with the thread of the conversation. Once again, Martin &quot;says&quot; he was only joking. But you don&#039;t know. So you&#039;re just blaming the umpire for the sake of blaming the umpire.

Maybe he was wrong. Maybe Martin was wrong. But you don&#039;t know.

So why do you keep ragging on the umpire when you don&#039;t have a friggin&#039; clue what actually was said?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That doesn&#8217;t even make sense, as it has nothing to do with the thread of the conversation. Once again, Martin &#8220;says&#8221; he was only joking. But you don&#8217;t know. So you&#8217;re just blaming the umpire for the sake of blaming the umpire.</p>
<p>Maybe he was wrong. Maybe Martin was wrong. But you don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>So why do you keep ragging on the umpire when you don&#8217;t have a friggin&#8217; clue what actually was said?</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There should have been a visible warning, to the bench as well if it was becoming a problem.  It is not the umpires choice who gets to play.  If he throws him out, there will be a visible conversation apparent to the coaching staff.  That conversation should have been had prior to the ejection.  Like I said, ejection should be a last resort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There should have been a visible warning, to the bench as well if it was becoming a problem.  It is not the umpires choice who gets to play.  If he throws him out, there will be a visible conversation apparent to the coaching staff.  That conversation should have been had prior to the ejection.  Like I said, ejection should be a last resort.</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesfanlen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesfanlen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Worse than all this, they threw out the GEICO ad making fun of umps wearing used glasses!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worse than all this, they threw out the GEICO ad making fun of umps wearing used glasses!</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coaches bark at the ump all game.  Batters turn around and say stuff all the time.  Pitchers look away in disgust every inning.  What consitutes an argument?  A look?  A batter shaking his head no?  A question?

Check swing:  
&quot;Did he go?&quot;
&quot;Yes he did?&quot;
&quot;Darn, I thought I held up.&quot;
&quot;You are outta here&quot;
&quot;Phew, I thought that was ball 4&quot;
&quot;Your&#039;e outta here too&quot; 

With your stance on the issue, they would have to expand the rosters and allow more coaches, because a hell of a lot of people would be thrown out every game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coaches bark at the ump all game.  Batters turn around and say stuff all the time.  Pitchers look away in disgust every inning.  What consitutes an argument?  A look?  A batter shaking his head no?  A question?</p>
<p>Check swing:<br />
&#8220;Did he go?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Yes he did?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Darn, I thought I held up.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;You are outta here&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Phew, I thought that was ball 4&#8243;<br />
&#8220;Your&#8217;e outta here too&#8221; </p>
<p>With your stance on the issue, they would have to expand the rosters and allow more coaches, because a hell of a lot of people would be thrown out every game.</p>
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		<title>By: dasher521</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand showing an umpire up.  That doesn&#039;t in any way seem to be the case in this instance.  I&#039;m with Martin on this.  He should be able to make a general comment like this about the strike zone without the umpire being overly touchy.  All the umpire has to do is reply, &quot;I don&#039;t want to hear it again or you&#039;re gone.&quot;  The umpires never are held accountable for their overboard actions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand showing an umpire up.  That doesn&#8217;t in any way seem to be the case in this instance.  I&#8217;m with Martin on this.  He should be able to make a general comment like this about the strike zone without the umpire being overly touchy.  All the umpire has to do is reply, &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to hear it again or you&#8217;re gone.&#8221;  The umpires never are held accountable for their overboard actions.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobias Industries</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gobias Industries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Did you stretch before the game tonight?”

“I feel like you’re kind of tight tonight.”

Bob Hope, ladies and gentlemen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Did you stretch before the game tonight?”</p>
<p>“I feel like you’re kind of tight tonight.”</p>
<p>Bob Hope, ladies and gentlemen.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwicricket</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kiwicricket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have absolutely ZERO time for poor jokes.
I&#039;m with the umpire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolutely ZERO time for poor jokes.<br />
I&#8217;m with the umpire.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/27/umpire-ejected-russell-martin-for-making-a-joke-last-night/comment-page-1/#comment-199133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Considering that the wild card race is wide open in both leagues, I would have to think that every game during the season has playoff implications.  Why should this game have different rules than the first game of the season? Every one of them count in the standings?

Maybe a player shooting his mouth and getting ejected for breaking the rules is irresponsible. Bet you didn&#039;t think of that in your haste to deify the players, did ya?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that the wild card race is wide open in both leagues, I would have to think that every game during the season has playoff implications.  Why should this game have different rules than the first game of the season? Every one of them count in the standings?</p>
<p>Maybe a player shooting his mouth and getting ejected for breaking the rules is irresponsible. Bet you didn&#8217;t think of that in your haste to deify the players, did ya?</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As long as the catcher doesn’t turn around, he can say what he wants for the most part.&quot;

No, as long as he doesn&#039;t show up the umpire or argue with him over balls and strikes, he can say a lot of things.

Not turning his head is a time-honored tradition of not showing up the umpire, but there is a lot that can be said without turning the head. Hughes threw 36 pitches, 18 of them for strikes. So even if he walked the two batters on 4-ball counts, that left him with 18 strikes in 28 pitches. Plus, he only got 3 out of 8 first pitch strikes. He was missing a lot. 

If  you really believe Martin hadn&#039;t said anything to the umpire before then, you&#039;re living in a fantasy world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As long as the catcher doesn’t turn around, he can say what he wants for the most part.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, as long as he doesn&#8217;t show up the umpire or argue with him over balls and strikes, he can say a lot of things.</p>
<p>Not turning his head is a time-honored tradition of not showing up the umpire, but there is a lot that can be said without turning the head. Hughes threw 36 pitches, 18 of them for strikes. So even if he walked the two batters on 4-ball counts, that left him with 18 strikes in 28 pitches. Plus, he only got 3 out of 8 first pitch strikes. He was missing a lot. </p>
<p>If  you really believe Martin hadn&#8217;t said anything to the umpire before then, you&#8217;re living in a fantasy world.</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rule book also says that if a pitch isn&#039;t thrown in a timely matter, a ball should be called.  When was the last time, if ever, that that happened.  Umps have some leeway with the rulebook, and enforcing a rule that is usually ignored in a game with playoff implications is irresponsible on his part.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rule book also says that if a pitch isn&#8217;t thrown in a timely matter, a ball should be called.  When was the last time, if ever, that that happened.  Umps have some leeway with the rulebook, and enforcing a rule that is usually ignored in a game with playoff implications is irresponsible on his part.</p>
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		<title>By: hittfamily</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hittfamily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catchers are always talking with the umpires, even criticizing them.  As long as the catcher doesn&#039;t turn around, he can say what he wants for the most part.  MLB needs to take a look at mic&#039;ing up the umps so they know when discipline for the ump, or player, is necessary, and not have to rely on word of mouth.  Throwing people out of games can impact games, and this time of year, impact seasons, and should be a last resort, not a first instinct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catchers are always talking with the umpires, even criticizing them.  As long as the catcher doesn&#8217;t turn around, he can say what he wants for the most part.  MLB needs to take a look at mic&#8217;ing up the umps so they know when discipline for the ump, or player, is necessary, and not have to rely on word of mouth.  Throwing people out of games can impact games, and this time of year, impact seasons, and should be a last resort, not a first instinct.</p>
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		<title>By: The Baseball Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Baseball Idiot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What happens is, the players, managers, coaches, 95% of bloggers, and 99% of commenters don&#039;t actually read the rule book. Especially the part that says you can&#039;t argue balls and strikes.

Martin says it was a joke on his part. Maybe Martin&#039;s just a complete ass who crossed the line and is trying to blame the umpire instead of taking responsibility for his own actions.

But I guess since &#039;Martin said&#039;, that&#039;s all that matters and nothing else that happened is relevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens is, the players, managers, coaches, 95% of bloggers, and 99% of commenters don&#8217;t actually read the rule book. Especially the part that says you can&#8217;t argue balls and strikes.</p>
<p>Martin says it was a joke on his part. Maybe Martin&#8217;s just a complete ass who crossed the line and is trying to blame the umpire instead of taking responsibility for his own actions.</p>
<p>But I guess since &#8216;Martin said&#8217;, that&#8217;s all that matters and nothing else that happened is relevant.</p>
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