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What they’re saying: the Red Sox schadenfreude edition

Sep 29, 2011, 1:25 AM EDT

Red Sox catcher Ryan Lavarnway and pitcher Jonathan Papelbon walk off the field after their loss to the Orioles in Baltimore Reuters

Curt Schilling: Not sure what I just got done watching really happened. Most amazing, incredible, frustrating and crushing 2 hours of baseball ever.

Red Sox GM Theo Epstein: Can’t sugarcoat this. This is awful.

Orioles second baseman Robert Andino, after his game-winning hit: End of season like this, [to] make Boston go home sad, crying, I’ll take it all day.

Red Sox catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia (a DNP tonight): It’s like getting punched in the nuts, basically. We busted our asses all year. It sucks to have it right there in our grasp.

Dan Barbarisi, Yankees beat reporter for the Wall Street Journal: One Yankee player watching Papelbon blow the game said the Yankee clubhouse “Celebrated like WE just clinched” when the O’s won

Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz: 2003 loss to Yankees “not even close” to as bad as this year. “This is worse. Not even close.”’s Jon Heyman: give joe girardi credit. he sorta appeared to be trying to win. of course, as Russell Martin said, they hate boston.

Former big-league pitcher C.J. Nitkowski: In the warped mind of a true die hard Yankee fan potentially losing to the Rays in the ALCS is worth Sox not making playoffs at all.

Rays double agent Carl Crawford: This is a devastating blow. We go down in history as one of the worst collapses ever. It definitely doesn’t feel good to be part of that.

Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez (a DNP tonight): Just 2 hours ago it was 7-0 & 3-2. All of a sudden within eight minutes the world changes. That’s what makes baseball the greatest game.

  1. Jeff J. Snider - Sep 29, 2011 at 1:31 AM

    I’m sure Jon Heyman has some redeeming qualities, but he sure does come off as a douchebag a whole lot.

    • baseballisboring - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:05 AM

      Don’t worry about trying to be fair to Heyman. He’s garbage, 100 times out of 100.

    • thefalcon123 - Sep 29, 2011 at 11:10 AM

      Some great Jon Heyman highlights:

      1. Suggesting Francisco Rodriguez for the 08 AL MVP (and two months of Manny Ramirez for the NL MVP)

      2. Compiling a hall of fame ballot that consisted of Jim Rice, Dave Parker, Don Mattingly, Jack Morris and Dave Concepcion.

      3. Naming the Padres signing of Steve Garvey on of the greatest free agent signings of all time. (Garvey posted a .717 OPS and total 1.3 WAR total over six years in San Diego)

      There are many, many other examples of this. How does a guy who spends his life writing about baseball not know anything about it?

  2. itsmekirill - Sep 29, 2011 at 1:33 AM

    Schadenfreude is the greatest feeling in the world.

    • paperlions - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:18 AM

      Seriously? I am sorry that you haven’t experienced triumph, because that far exceeds taking pleasure in the failure of others…..and that is true even if you are a douchebag.

    • foreverchipper10 - Sep 29, 2011 at 11:24 AM

      I had to look it up…….probably could have figured it out with a little thought.

  3. rexryanisablowhard - Sep 29, 2011 at 1:37 AM

    First time as a 35-year avid Yankee fan that I was indifferent about winning or losing.

  4. icanspeel - Sep 29, 2011 at 1:45 AM

    Poor Adrian Gonzalez, back to back years the team he is on loses on the final game of the year to not make the playoffs

    • joshftw - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:18 AM

      Plus with his bad shoulder he probably can’t even play Golf this October.

  5. Chris Ross - Sep 29, 2011 at 1:53 AM

    What an unbelievable collapse from the Red Sox. I can say honestly that throughout this whole thing I never thought that the Red Sox would actually do it. I thought it would be great if it could happen but just couldn’t believe that it ever would. What a day for baseball. A year with no races turned into a year with unbelievable races on both sides. Jonthan Papelbon with a blown save and Evan Longoria with a walk-off homer. Two major players in each franchise playing huge roles in the end result. It don’t get much better than that. This is what Major League Baseball is all about!

    • paperlions - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:20 AM

      Craig probably doesn’t care….but spamming in the comments is weak…if you want the “press”, send Craig a link and he’ll link to it if it has worth while content.

      • Victor's Secret - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:22 AM

        That’s not spamming – he gave a comment on the game, and a place where you can read more of his commentary if you so choose. Craig isn’t the ultimate judge of what’s good or not, although I certainly trust him more than most. I dislike spamming to sell a product, but this is just trying to build a name for himself…

  6. btwicey - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:26 AM

    Prediction: that was papelbons last pitch as a red sock.

    • aceshigh11 - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:47 AM

      They have no one else, though.

      Bard is not ready for prime-time…I don’t believe he has the killer instint and required mental toughness for the job.

      There is, unfortunately, a very good chance that Papelbon signs with the Sox, even though he will make FAR more than he’s worth next year.

      • woodsmeister - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:47 AM

        If the Sox think Papelbon is toast, they’ll just buy someone better. Unlike small market teams, they are not limited to internal options.

    • yankeefanincolo - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:53 AM

      As a Yankee fan I am, naturally, thrilled about the Red Sux missing the playoffs, but to have Papelbon blow the save and take the loss is icing on the cake! Of all the Sox players, he is the one I dislike most and now I know I won’t have to watch him make his goofy-looking little pinch-mouth face any more this year. LET’S GO YANKS!!!

      • brewcrewchamps - Sep 29, 2011 at 1:43 PM

        I think the proper term is “bumhole mouth”. I really dislike the Sox but Papelbon is by far the worst. Good day in baseball, nonetheless

  7. Ducky Medwick - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:28 AM

    It’s really too bad we don’t have an expanded playoff. We could have a nice dramatic one game playoff tomorrow in both leagues!!! #sarcasm #Holycrapwhatanight

  8. coachbrew - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:39 AM

    Does anyone think the Yankees grooved one to Longoria on purpose to get Boston out of the playoffs? The Red Sox had JUST lost when Longoria came up to bat. To his credit though, he had a good at bat fouling off several pitches, so it’s probably nothing. I don’t really think the Yankees did that, but the timing was strange.

    • cur68 - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:55 AM

      Coulda gooved one, yeah. You’d think so after seeing these 2 words; Scott Porctor. But he was the last man standing in the pen. Girardi’s only option. If he’s come in for the 8th, with arms still in the pen, well, yeah, Joe’s throwing the game. But Protcor was it. Last arm. Last Yankee option. He made The Long Glorious One work for that homer, too. That was no grooved FB. That was just the best Proctor could do and lets face it Longoria > Proctor any day of the week and twice as much on Sundays. In terms of men and big moments, let’s put it this way; If Scott Proctor is a shy groom on his honeymoon then Longoria is Ron Jeremey on his, dig? That’s a big, mighty stick the Long Glorious One swings, an no mistake.

      • hasbeen5 - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:43 AM

        Borders on creepy, but your point is valid.

      • mabunar - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:08 AM

        What? Mariano Rivera, David Robertson and Rafael Soriano weren’t options?
        None of them pitched on Monday, so none of them were ‘unavailable’ because of pitching too much lately. You’re telling me Rivera couldn’t have come in for Dan Johnson and ended things early? Or maybe AJ could have started…given them 3-4 innings, then you start the RP carousel?
        I don’t think Proctor grooved it…but I do think after a while he was pitching to contact so they could go home either way.
        Again, none of this is reason why Sox are out of playoffs…they would have lost Today in a playoff game anyway. But there was no urgency of winning this game, it was a practice game for NY. The interesting thing will be if TB does beat Texas, how a NY/TB series would work now with TB feeling feisty about sticking it to them like they did Boston a few years ago.

    • aceshigh11 - Sep 29, 2011 at 2:58 AM

      I’ll just re-post what I said earlier:

      Now why would the Yankees tank the game?

      I’ve heard people saying that all night.

      To “stick it” to the Sox? ARE YOU KIDDING?

      They’re professionals…they’re not immature dick-waving morons like the bulk of their respective fanbases.

      They play to win every game.

      And another point: who would the Yankees, logically, rather face? An enfeebled Sox or a young, hungry TB?

      I thought so.

      So, the “tanking” conspiracy theory, while interesting, doesn’t stand up upon closer inspection.

      • mgflolox - Sep 29, 2011 at 3:41 AM

        I’m with you. Professional athletes get to where they are by being ruthlessly indifferent to what ever else is happening but their own success. They HATE getting beat, no matter what the situation is.

      • mabunar - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:00 AM

        Tanking is too strong a word they didn’t try to lose….but you’re fooling yourself if they went out to win that game. The plan was to do a bullpen circus, they just happened to get a 7-0 lead. But the expectations should have been that TB would have won normally by teeing off on little used RPs earlier in the game, instead we go the dramatic HR fest at the end.
        The Yankees don’t care about facing Rays or Sox…they do care about sending a nice young feisty team to Texas to wear them out. Who would the Yankees, LOGICALLY, want to face…Texas after they swept Boston, or Texas/TB after a 7 game series?
        So, saying the Yankees really wanted to win that game is an interesting theory, but doesn’t hold any water.

      • mabunar - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:15 AM

        And again…Yankees not caring about the last couple games has no bearing on Sox collapse. Sox did it to themselves…that’s it. They should have clinched a long time ago.
        My comments are purely about the Yankees indifference to the last few games. It will be interesting if losing your last 4 games has any effect on how they start their series with Detroit who ended the month on a high note.

      • awriterorsomething - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM

        They didn’t tank. They didn’t try to lose.


        Fact of the matter is the Rays against mostly Septemeber callups from the 7th inning on and in a narmal situation Mo would have been on the mound with a one run lead in the 9th.

        But I would point out that the Rays were down to their last strike with a .100 hitter at the plate when they tied it.

        Ya can’t make that happen on purpose folks.

      • silverdeer - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:56 AM

        Well as it turns out they don’t face either one to start. They have to face the Tigers and with their 1-2 punch for SP’s and that lineup I don’t think it is going to be a pushover.

    • awriterorsomething - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:16 AM

      no, I don’t think he groved one.
      Protor was gassed having gone longer than he had in years.
      On top of that it is not that bad a pitch and Longoria barely got it over the wall and in fair teritory.

      As for the otehr releivers availability I would point out that the Yankees starta playoff series on Friday and they want their pitcheres rested. Why shoul Girardi use up the players he needs for the playoffs? If Boston hadn’t collapsed The Yanks woudl have used almost nothing but September call up players they last three games.

  9. kevinf003 - Sep 29, 2011 at 4:54 AM

    its funny people are saying the yankess lost on on purpose… remember this redsox fans… the redsox did it to themselves winning only 7 games in september…. you shouldnt depend on other teams. and if you dont like it then get out there and win. and dont worry about others…. but of course the redsox fans will cry and blame the yankees…. blame your own team….. at least you dont have to watch lackey pitch again this year. biggest cry baby and one guy with no heart…..

  10. clavette - Sep 29, 2011 at 5:16 AM

    Sorry arid but baseball will never top football. Just wait till the nfl destroys mob in ratings over the next montg

    • adenzeno - Sep 29, 2011 at 7:06 AM

      Baseball is so much better than football that it is hard to believe.

      • paperlions - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:23 AM

        I love baseball…but football is the more dramatic game, with much more interesting in-game strategy (if you bother to pay attention to it)…and outcomes change much faster in football….where either can can score on any play….plus, in football, you can’t hide weak links, because the other team can exploit them…you can hide a lot on a baseball field.

      • buddaley - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:32 AM

        You can’t take a knee in baseball.

      • hasbeen5 - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:46 AM

        And you can’t always hide Proctor either.

      • mabunar - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:55 AM

        You’re right…the point after kick is riveting. The touchback in the endzone is riveting. Running out the clock is riveting.
        When you have a lead in baseball…you have to work to keep it! In football, you just need to take up time.

      • cktai - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:57 AM

        Actually paperlions, I’d say in football you can hide a lot. You can walk a bad route, hand off the ball, let the safety take it over. Everything that happens is a shared responsibility of the team.

        In baseball however, when you got to hit, you got to hit, when you got to catch, you got to catch. On every play it is just you and the ball, noone that can back you up, if you make a mistake it is solely on you. And there is no subbing out until you feel better either. Once you are out of the game, you are out of the game.

    • mabunar - Sep 29, 2011 at 12:17 PM

      I dunno. TV ratings do seem to be great, but damn seems like every week I hear about a team or two having to buy out its own seats to avoid getting blacked out.

      If NFL continues to trend toward becoming Arena Football, I think we’ll see they dynamic of the fanbases change from diehard grunts to fantasy sports players.

  11. bostonhasrealhockey - Sep 29, 2011 at 6:38 AM

    They’re professionals…they’re not immature dick-waving morons like the bulk of their respective fanbases.

    So i guess dancing in the clubhouse “like WE clinched” shows they didnt care…..because they are pros.

    • ditto65 - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:40 AM

      There is a difference between caring and throwing a game.

  12. proudlycanadian - Sep 29, 2011 at 6:44 AM

    Blame injuries. Blame players who underperformed. Blame Longoria and the Rays. Blame fate. I do not blame Epstein or Francona.

  13. Old Gator - Sep 29, 2011 at 7:47 AM

    “Rays double agent Carl Crawford” – killer. Made my morning, Matt.

  14. ramsyanks - Sep 29, 2011 at 7:48 AM

    I have never rooted against the Yankees in 40 years and never will again. But to see those douche bag players and fans of the RED SUX have there heart pulled out….SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET Caroline!!!! It’s never felt so goooooood!!!!

  15. ramsyanks - Sep 29, 2011 at 7:52 AM

    Yankeeeeeeeeeeeeees Lose, the YANKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES LOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes!

    Boston: “SEE YA”

    • mabunar - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:11 AM

      Watch out, losing can get contagious. I don’t think Colon/Garcia/Burnett is scaring the Tigers lineup at all.

      • silverdeer - Sep 29, 2011 at 10:00 AM

        You have that right, and Detroit has enough LH power to even things out. Although they will miss Bosch with the short porch in NY. I have to think that the Yankees are more concerned about having to face Verlander, Fister and Scherzer.

  16. 8man - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:24 AM

    Well that Yankee loss just gave Texas home park advantage throughout. So whatever was going in the Yankee clubhouse in regards to Boston missing the playoffs, they’ll have themselves to thank for having to go to Texas for four games if it comes to that.

    • buddaley - Sep 29, 2011 at 8:35 AM

      I am pretty sure the Yankees clinched home park for the entire playoffs. They have one more victory than Texas.

    • awriterorsomething - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:10 AM

      Don’t actually pay attention do you?

      The YANKEES locked up AL home field earlier in the week when they assured themselves the best record in the AL. Because the wildcard team and the Yanks would be from the same division regardless of it being the Red Sox or the Rays, the Yankees would be playing the team with the worst record between the other two division winners, Texas and Detroit.

      The Yankee loss was actually meaningless to the Yankees, Detroit and Texas. Detroit and Texas were playing to avoid the Yankees. Detroit lost so they have to play the Yanks and Texas plays the Rays.

      Get it now?

    • pisano - Sep 29, 2011 at 9:24 AM

      Wrong, the Yankees have home field as long as their in the playoffs.

  17. drunkenhooliganism - Sep 29, 2011 at 10:05 AM

    I might not have been paying perfect attention to the game, but it appeared the Yankees had a full dugout to end their game. How were they celebrating in the clubhouse when they were in the dugout?

  18. 8man - Sep 29, 2011 at 10:41 AM

    Yep. Missed that. I saw that Texas got homefield but that is for the ALDS, not for the entire playoffs. Either way, it’s never good to roll into the playoffs with a losing streak. Less of an issue in baseball than say football, but…

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