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	<title>Comments on: Report: Red Sox pitchers drank beer during games on their off days</title>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reports over the last several days are that John Henry still loves Theo and would rather he doesn&#039;t leave. While the public views every signing as Theo&#039;s - reading between the lines over the years suggests that ownership has pushed for certain players - which would obviously take Theo off the hook for some of the signings that we may perceive as being his call.

One of those rumored ownership signings is Carl Crawford - which I am another season away before I cast a judgement. It has been alleged (based on rumor) that Theo made Adrian Gonzalez his off-season priority and ownership - sick of seeing Crawford make big plays in the field and on the base paths against the Sox - tasked Theo with signing him to make a splash.

NO ONE was criticizing the Dice K signing at the time. Nor was there any criticism when he went 33-15 over his first two seasons. The fact is, it was well publicized that ownership was gung-ho on outbidding the Yankees and every other team - as a sort of masculine display of financial might. 

As for Lackey - that&#039;s the one move that I will never understand. Ever. OK, maybe the impassioned drive to sign Lugo is one that I&#039;ll never get either. But most every other now criticized move I can either understand why it was done at the time, or defend it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reports over the last several days are that John Henry still loves Theo and would rather he doesn&#8217;t leave. While the public views every signing as Theo&#8217;s &#8211; reading between the lines over the years suggests that ownership has pushed for certain players &#8211; which would obviously take Theo off the hook for some of the signings that we may perceive as being his call.</p>
<p>One of those rumored ownership signings is Carl Crawford &#8211; which I am another season away before I cast a judgement. It has been alleged (based on rumor) that Theo made Adrian Gonzalez his off-season priority and ownership &#8211; sick of seeing Crawford make big plays in the field and on the base paths against the Sox &#8211; tasked Theo with signing him to make a splash.</p>
<p>NO ONE was criticizing the Dice K signing at the time. Nor was there any criticism when he went 33-15 over his first two seasons. The fact is, it was well publicized that ownership was gung-ho on outbidding the Yankees and every other team &#8211; as a sort of masculine display of financial might. </p>
<p>As for Lackey &#8211; that&#8217;s the one move that I will never understand. Ever. OK, maybe the impassioned drive to sign Lugo is one that I&#8217;ll never get either. But most every other now criticized move I can either understand why it was done at the time, or defend it.</p>
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		<title>By: bballmaven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bballmaven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real problem here is Theo Epstein, not Francona.  Epstein was hired to be a new era value GM when the Sox couldn&#039;t get Billy Bean to sign.  Theo left the value boat when he paid $100 million for Dice-K.  He then walked further into the overpaid player jungle when he signed Lackey and Crawford.  The disparity between the overpaid players (if they are even playing!) and the guys who are playing hard for every dollar caused the clubhouse fracture as much as anything.  It is going to take years to recover from this, but the Sox should start by firing Theo.  Maybe Billy Bean is ready to sign now!  Or how about Peter Brand if we must have a Yale grad in the fron office?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem here is Theo Epstein, not Francona.  Epstein was hired to be a new era value GM when the Sox couldn&#8217;t get Billy Bean to sign.  Theo left the value boat when he paid $100 million for Dice-K.  He then walked further into the overpaid player jungle when he signed Lackey and Crawford.  The disparity between the overpaid players (if they are even playing!) and the guys who are playing hard for every dollar caused the clubhouse fracture as much as anything.  It is going to take years to recover from this, but the Sox should start by firing Theo.  Maybe Billy Bean is ready to sign now!  Or how about Peter Brand if we must have a Yale grad in the fron office?</p>
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		<title>By: 1historian</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1historian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I have no doubt Lackey was involved, I excerpted Gordon Edes column above - which has a unnamed player (I&#039;m thinking its Pedroia since he was very vocal in support of Francona yesterday) singling out Beckett.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I have no doubt Lackey was involved, I excerpted Gordon Edes column above &#8211; which has a unnamed player (I&#8217;m thinking its Pedroia since he was very vocal in support of Francona yesterday) singling out Beckett.</p>
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		<title>By: ericrarey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ericrarey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its totally lackey .... while in California with my team  the angels he was known for his beer drinking escapades with mike napoli and Scott shields at just about every local watering hole in town]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its totally lackey &#8230;. while in California with my team  the angels he was known for his beer drinking escapades with mike napoli and Scott shields at just about every local watering hole in town</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 14:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well he was completely credible in regard to this story, which has not only been confirmed but expanded upon by Gordon Edes:

&lt;i&gt;Starting pitchers drinking in the clubhouse during games on days when they weren&#039;t pitching, which can leave one boozily indifferent to the plight of teammates after they&#039;ve just lost in extra innings? Originally reported in the Boston Herald, it was not only confirmed here, but with the added twist that it has been going on the past two seasons.

&quot;Josh has some real leadership qualities, but this time he didn&#039;t lead left, he didn&#039;t lead right, he led wrong,&quot; one uniformed member of the team said.&lt;/i&gt;

And for those that think this is a non-story:

&lt;i&gt;Lucchino said after Friday&#039;s news conference that he had a &quot;quite low&quot; level of awareness &quot;until very recently&quot; that this had been going on. His reaction when he did find out? &quot;Surprise,&quot; he said.

And? &quot;Yeah, there were some other emotions, but I&#039;d rather just leave it at that,&quot; he said.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well he was completely credible in regard to this story, which has not only been confirmed but expanded upon by Gordon Edes:</p>
<p><i>Starting pitchers drinking in the clubhouse during games on days when they weren&#8217;t pitching, which can leave one boozily indifferent to the plight of teammates after they&#8217;ve just lost in extra innings? Originally reported in the Boston Herald, it was not only confirmed here, but with the added twist that it has been going on the past two seasons.</p>
<p>&#8220;Josh has some real leadership qualities, but this time he didn&#8217;t lead left, he didn&#8217;t lead right, he led wrong,&#8221; one uniformed member of the team said.</i></p>
<p>And for those that think this is a non-story:</p>
<p><i>Lucchino said after Friday&#8217;s news conference that he had a &#8220;quite low&#8221; level of awareness &#8220;until very recently&#8221; that this had been going on. His reaction when he did find out? &#8220;Surprise,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>And? &#8220;Yeah, there were some other emotions, but I&#8217;d rather just leave it at that,&#8221; he said.</i></p>
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		<title>By: mojosmagic</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojosmagic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would bet on Lester the molester.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would bet on Lester the molester.</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 04:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I saw him in 2 Starts at AA - be as snarky as you like. He was with Portland when they were still the Marlins affiliate. 

I also saw Victor Martinez, Cliff Lee, Ryan Madson, Matt Cain, Joe Mauer (met him his first day in AA), Milton Bradley, Marcus Thames, Randy Flores, Brian Wilson, Drew Henson, Alfonso Soriano, Nick Johnson, Justin Morneau, Michael Cuddyer, David Aardsma, Fred Lewis, Boof Bonser, Juan Rivera - should I keep going? 

Freddy Sanchez, Kevin Youkilis, Marlon Byrd, Brandon Phillips, Jimmy Rollins, Grady Sizemore, Shea Hillenbrand, AJ Pierzynski, Jason Michaels, Ty Wiggington, Brad Wilkerson, Pat Burrell, Donzell McDonald, John McDonald, David Eckstein, Bronson Arroyo, Joel Pinero, Brett Myers, Chien Ming Wang, Dioner Navarro, Mike Jacobs, Jeremy Guthrie, Brandon League, Scott Baker.

More? David Wright, Jose Reyes, Jeff Keppinger, Nate McLouth, Ryan Howard, Robinson Cano, Aaron Hill, Fausto Carmona, Jeff Karstens, Jon Lester, Shaun Marcum, Joel Zumaya, Tom Gorzelanny, Dustin Pedroia, Jose Bautista, Hanley Ramirez.

To summarize . . . I&#039;ve watched &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt; of baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I saw him in 2 Starts at AA &#8211; be as snarky as you like. He was with Portland when they were still the Marlins affiliate. </p>
<p>I also saw Victor Martinez, Cliff Lee, Ryan Madson, Matt Cain, Joe Mauer (met him his first day in AA), Milton Bradley, Marcus Thames, Randy Flores, Brian Wilson, Drew Henson, Alfonso Soriano, Nick Johnson, Justin Morneau, Michael Cuddyer, David Aardsma, Fred Lewis, Boof Bonser, Juan Rivera &#8211; should I keep going? </p>
<p>Freddy Sanchez, Kevin Youkilis, Marlon Byrd, Brandon Phillips, Jimmy Rollins, Grady Sizemore, Shea Hillenbrand, AJ Pierzynski, Jason Michaels, Ty Wiggington, Brad Wilkerson, Pat Burrell, Donzell McDonald, John McDonald, David Eckstein, Bronson Arroyo, Joel Pinero, Brett Myers, Chien Ming Wang, Dioner Navarro, Mike Jacobs, Jeremy Guthrie, Brandon League, Scott Baker.</p>
<p>More? David Wright, Jose Reyes, Jeff Keppinger, Nate McLouth, Ryan Howard, Robinson Cano, Aaron Hill, Fausto Carmona, Jeff Karstens, Jon Lester, Shaun Marcum, Joel Zumaya, Tom Gorzelanny, Dustin Pedroia, Jose Bautista, Hanley Ramirez.</p>
<p>To summarize . . . I&#8217;ve watched <i>a lot</i> of baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: greedleague</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[greedleague]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 04:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Real pros. Losers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real pros. Losers.</p>
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		<title>By: amctjc</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amctjc]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 02:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this story has to be false......if I was failing as badly as the red sox failed I would be drinking something a lot more potent than beer!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this story has to be false&#8230;&#8230;if I was failing as badly as the red sox failed I would be drinking something a lot more potent than beer!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raysfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 01:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmmm...this seems to be gathering a number of &quot;thumbs downs.&quot;  Thought it was a pretty obvious bit of sarcastic humor, so does this mean that there are really a majority of fans really think a player having a beer is that big a deal?  Really?
Naaah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;this seems to be gathering a number of &#8220;thumbs downs.&#8221;  Thought it was a pretty obvious bit of sarcastic humor, so does this mean that there are really a majority of fans really think a player having a beer is that big a deal?  Really?<br />
Naaah.</p>
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		<title>By: yowillie12</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 01:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some nights they needed a double.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some nights they needed a double.</p>
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		<title>By: raysfan1</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raysfan1]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What?! You mean baseball players actually *gasp!* consumed demon alcohol during a GAME?!!! Say it isn&#039;t so! Please, for the love of Abner Doubleday, think of the children!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What?! You mean baseball players actually *gasp!* consumed demon alcohol during a GAME?!!! Say it isn&#8217;t so! Please, for the love of Abner Doubleday, think of the children!</p>
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		<title>By: TheWizard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheWizard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tomase had some breaking news about the Patriots on the eve of a Super Bowl as well.

He is not credible IMO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomase had some breaking news about the Patriots on the eve of a Super Bowl as well.</p>
<p>He is not credible IMO</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[clyde:

huh? 2010? &lt;i&gt;both&lt;/i&gt; world series? I mean, huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>clyde:</p>
<p>huh? 2010? <i>both</i> world series? I mean, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 00:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t read too far into the way &#039;off day&#039; is being used. In baseball, you don&#039;t have an &quot;off day&quot; unless there is no scheduled game that day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t read too far into the way &#8216;off day&#8217; is being used. In baseball, you don&#8217;t have an &#8220;off day&#8221; unless there is no scheduled game that day.</p>
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		<title>By: firedude7160</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[firedude7160]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 23:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question for clydeserra that will allow him to answer his own question aimed at bigleagues- Did you skip the first grade class that explained how to read and write dates?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for clydeserra that will allow him to answer his own question aimed at bigleagues- Did you skip the first grade class that explained how to read and write dates?</p>
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		<title>By: gostlcards5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gostlcards5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, there were at least two that were close:
  - (obviously) 2011 Braves - 8 1/2 games up with 23 days remaining
  - 1964 Phillies - up 6 1/2 games with 12 to play (lost 10 straight)

I think you have to include the 2009 Tigers here, too.  Led their division almost the whole season, up 3 with 4 games to play, lost one to Minnesota and 2 of 3 to the Royals (while the Twins swept their final series), then lost the one-game playoff.  That one had to hurt....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, there were at least two that were close:<br />
  &#8211; (obviously) 2011 Braves &#8211; 8 1/2 games up with 23 days remaining<br />
  &#8211; 1964 Phillies &#8211; up 6 1/2 games with 12 to play (lost 10 straight)</p>
<p>I think you have to include the 2009 Tigers here, too.  Led their division almost the whole season, up 3 with 4 games to play, lost one to Minnesota and 2 of 3 to the Royals (while the Twins swept their final series), then lost the one-game playoff.  That one had to hurt&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydeserra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[saw him in AA. {snerk}]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw him in AA. {snerk}</p>
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		<title>By: clydeserra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[clydeserra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question of big leagues: Did the red sox win Both world series played in 2010?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question of big leagues: Did the red sox win Both world series played in 2010?</p>
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		<title>By: td40</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[td40]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 22:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Non-story.]]></description>
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		<title>By: deathmonkey41</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, looking at the starting pitcher&#039;s ERA&#039;s, they certainly weren&#039;t drinking Big Papi&#039;s Dominican Milkshakes!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, looking at the starting pitcher&#8217;s ERA&#8217;s, they certainly weren&#8217;t drinking Big Papi&#8217;s Dominican Milkshakes!</p>
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		<title>By: wendell7</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wendell7]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 21:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who cares? Is it headline &quot;news&quot; that I drink beer on my days off too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares? Is it headline &#8220;news&#8221; that I drink beer on my days off too?</p>
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		<title>By: henryd3rd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[henryd3rd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Make mine a Sam Adams please!]]></description>
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		<title>By: bigleagues</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bigleagues]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll agree it&#039;s not the only problem. It&#039;s not even one of the biggest problems. But it is quite indicative of guys who don&#039;t take their job seriously.

My experience with the AA clubs of two major league organizations is drinking alcohol in the clubhouse before or during a game - even if you weren&#039;t playing was clearly against the rules. That&#039;s was in the organizational code of conduct. The reason is - unlike the romanticized days of Ruth - all of these guys are investments and employees. It&#039;s just unprofessional. And it makes a statement to other teammates that you don&#039;t care. There&#039;s plenty of time to drink after the game or during the offseason (which these Sox are getting all too acquainted with).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll agree it&#8217;s not the only problem. It&#8217;s not even one of the biggest problems. But it is quite indicative of guys who don&#8217;t take their job seriously.</p>
<p>My experience with the AA clubs of two major league organizations is drinking alcohol in the clubhouse before or during a game &#8211; even if you weren&#8217;t playing was clearly against the rules. That&#8217;s was in the organizational code of conduct. The reason is &#8211; unlike the romanticized days of Ruth &#8211; all of these guys are investments and employees. It&#8217;s just unprofessional. And it makes a statement to other teammates that you don&#8217;t care. There&#8217;s plenty of time to drink after the game or during the offseason (which these Sox are getting all too acquainted with).</p>
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		<title>By: seattlej</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seattlej]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you happen to notice what happened with the NL wildcard over the past couple weeks?  Calling Boston&#039;s collapse by far the biggest choke in baseball history is blowing things out of proportion ever so slightly.  Was it terrible?  Yeah.  Was it a delight to watch?  Hell yeah!  But, I&#039;m sure there have been others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you happen to notice what happened with the NL wildcard over the past couple weeks?  Calling Boston&#8217;s collapse by far the biggest choke in baseball history is blowing things out of proportion ever so slightly.  Was it terrible?  Yeah.  Was it a delight to watch?  Hell yeah!  But, I&#8217;m sure there have been others.</p>
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		<title>By: seattlej</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seattlej]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Meh.  I just can&#039;t get worked up over it.  I think the part about being in the clubhouse is the bigger deal, but that happens all the time, right?  If I were a Sox fan, would I prefer that they were engaged in the game?  Sure, of course.

But the fact that people are riled up over the beer aspect of it is ridiculous.  A beer or two is pretty harmless.  Unless they were pounding them it&#039;s probably better for them than a sugary gatorade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh.  I just can&#8217;t get worked up over it.  I think the part about being in the clubhouse is the bigger deal, but that happens all the time, right?  If I were a Sox fan, would I prefer that they were engaged in the game?  Sure, of course.</p>
<p>But the fact that people are riled up over the beer aspect of it is ridiculous.  A beer or two is pretty harmless.  Unless they were pounding them it&#8217;s probably better for them than a sugary gatorade.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo1949</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimbo1949]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 20:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you right click on the youtube video, the pop up box gives you the option to &quot;copy embed html&quot; which you paste in the comment box.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you right click on the youtube video, the pop up box gives you the option to &#8220;copy embed html&#8221; which you paste in the comment box.</p>
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		<title>By: seattlej</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seattlej]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.  I was using the link that youtube gives you for embedding.  Not sure why that wouldn&#039;t work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I was using the link that youtube gives you for embedding.  Not sure why that wouldn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: seattlej</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seattlej]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2011 19:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, love the breweries... though they&#039;re a far cry from the number here in the NW.  But I was referring more to the tradition/legacy of the region.  After all, if any part of the country is puritanical, isn&#039;t it New England?  That&#039;s where the puritans were.  And the last time I was there I couldn&#039;t buy booze on a Sunday -- the legacy is still there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, love the breweries&#8230; though they&#8217;re a far cry from the number here in the NW.  But I was referring more to the tradition/legacy of the region.  After all, if any part of the country is puritanical, isn&#8217;t it New England?  That&#8217;s where the puritans were.  And the last time I was there I couldn&#8217;t buy booze on a Sunday &#8212; the legacy is still there.</p>
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